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To whoever got his phone number, I hope you're in high school, because otherwise, I can't think of a flattering explanation for your action. If you respect Alan as a person, why would you be so invasive as to call Rima's last place of employment or to get AR's phone number? How do you think he would feel about that? He doesn't know you, and fans can be crazy and homicidal. Don't give him or Rima the creeps, and think about your self-respect.
Stacie
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 20:56:57 (PDT)

My top three Rickmania movies for optimum enjoyment: SENSE & SENSIBILITY, TRULY MADLY DEEPLY, and an odd little movie called CLOSET LAND..the whole movie is just AR and Madelaine Stowe.
Suzy
Los Angeles, - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 17:48:50 (PDT)

Fausta, the list of symptoms for the various Rickman-related maladies didn't mention checking hopefully the day before the first day of the month for a new Rickmanasta Review. ;-)

Alas, I can't arch my eyebrow but most of the other symptoms seemed to be spot on. I just love that photo with that noble nose up in the air. *sigh* Looking forward to reports of the last performance tomorrow. Sort of.

Can't we keep him a little longer?

Cindie
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 16:48:01 (PDT)

Thanks, Suzanne, you're the best!
Tami
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 16:23:14 (PDT)

THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL SITE FOR ALAN RICKMAN!! I LOOOOOOOOVE HIM VERY MUCH AND WHATEVER I CAN DO TO HELP THIS PAGE, YOU NAME IT, YOU GOT IT !!!!!!
valesca acciolli <v_lobato@hotmail.comfoo>
rio de janeiro, rj brazil - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 15:25:44 (PDT)

I attended a show of "Private Lives" on Broadway last night with my boyfriend, and was practically fainting the entire time. There was Alan Rickman, not twenty feet from me! He was....incredible....the show was very very very good, and he got to flounce around and hog the stage brilliantly the entire time, I highly reccomend it if you are a huge Alan Rickman fan like I am and can make it to NYC this weekend (it closes tomorrow). After the show, of course, I hung around outside the barricades for him to show up, and I had a really good spot, so when he came out, not only did I shake his hand, but as he was turning to go, my boyfriend said, "excuse me, Mr. Rickman, my girlfriend is a huge fan of yours, would you give her a hug?" AND...HE...DID..... man, he is fabulous. Anyway, I hope some of you were entertained by that. I know I was. Lucy
lucy <safetymeasures17@msn.comfoo>
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 14:52:13 (PDT)

Italics fixed.

Claire
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 14:18:04 (PDT)

I am a HUGE Alan Rickman fan. Have been for awhile, but have not signed any guest book until now. Went to see Private Lives in NYC, while up there for Tap Festival. Got to see and have pic taken with AR. He was sweet. He signed my playbill & Severus Snapes photo I had. My favorite AR Movies are the ones he played romantic leads in. "Sense & Sensibility" & "Truly, Madly, Deeply". Would like to hear from other fans.
Tippy Thornton <tappingfool@aol.comfoo>
NC USA - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 14:15:09 (PDT)

Verena: yes to "telephone book" and "Kenneth Branagh" and "Helena Bonham Carter".

Would someone like to explain "troll" in German and why it's not good to feed them?

Magda
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 12:32:53 (PDT)

PS: Wer Rechtsschreibfehler findet, darf sie behalten :)
verena
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 12:00:10 (PDT)

*HIS* Telephone number?????????Where the hell did you get the number? ... I mean,I know you won´t give it out,but where could anybody get his number? Is he mentioned in a telephone book? (Do you call it *Telephone book* ?)

Am I right? Or didn´t I understand what I think I did?

HP 2: Kenneth Branagh (?) is Emma Thompson´s ex-husband? Is it right that he betrayed her with Helena Boham Carter ???? (Does that name exists?) I heard it and thought : What an abc-hole! But it was only once I heard it,so I can´t say it´s true. Can anybody help me?

My sister and my brother-in-law came back from their honeymoons in California (they were in Las Vegas and Los Angeles!!!) and I asked my sister if she could PLEASE go with me to London and she said :" Hehehe, I know why you want to go , but I´m not sure if I could go,because of the money,you know.We shall see,ok?" So it´s not clear but I´ll try!!!
verena (there´s a butterfly in my stomach)
Bremen , - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 11:57:43 (PDT)

Im gonna try and watch it then aswell. dont no if ill get a seat though
drkstrike
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 11:28:39 (PDT)

Who all is going to see the Harry Potter movie on the FIRST day it shows?? I am . I can't wait for November 15th!
Juliana
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 11:01:05 (PDT)

Hi all! Terrible sorry about the last time I was here I had a bit of a......lets say troll attack aswell. But listen up I have amazing news,info and questions on Alan. Well you know that we are to respect his privercy (have I spelt that right?) well anyway I found out his phone number. I havn't rang the number and I don't think I ever will, and I won't give it out. But my mate tried the number and it worked. a women answered the phone, it was kinda high ish and quite in volume. She answered the phone with "Uh hello?". Well wot does rime sound like when talking? You should know. My mate and I also e-mailed the place where Rima worked before she retired and we talked to this kind lad called Danny. Any way we talked about coures and a bit bout Rima.....by a bit I mean 30 seconds......and aparently he thought ( I say thought because he knows nothing of Alan Rickman) that she went to live with this guy she was engagde to ( is that how you spell it?) is it true? you may not think i'm tellin the truth about all of it.....but I am!
drkstrike <drkstrike@hotmail.comfoo>
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 10:54:05 (PDT)

Alan Rickman opens his own mail (given the probable volume, no small feat), looks at his gifts and messages from fans, remembers and appreciates them. Banish cynicism! What a sweetheart.
Lily
Chicago, IL - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 10:10:49 (PDT)

Okay, back to remedial HTML training for me. The italics were supposed to begin and END with the word "is".
Ali-Pat <sa.pe@earthlink.netfoo>
Dayton, OH USA - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 09:44:45 (PDT)

Stacie, one of my co-workers has the exact opposite view of Harry's home life as depicted in the film. She is, in fact, very upset with the way his aunt, uncle, and cousin bully him, starve him, and make him live in a cramped closet. "That's child abuse, pure and simple," she maintains. For a long while, her comments made me feel guilty about finding this depiction amusing--I mean it is a gross exaggeration, after all and not meant to reflect reality. Still, she has a point. By way of apolgy, my rejoinder to her was, "But didn't you ever read Dickens?"
Ali-Pat <sa.pe@earthlink.netfoo>
Dayton, OH USA - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 09:42:32 (PDT)

I'm sorry to hear that Rickman is under-used. Sob! When will they learn? I was disappointed by the scene in Harry Potter that first shows him at home with his relatives. It was too bright and cheerful. Harry was making pancakes for the family. Oh, the abuse of it all. You didn't get a sense, as you did in the book, of the misery of his life. In the book, because his homelife is depressingly abusive, it's uplifting and emotionally rewarding when the magic gets him to Hogwarts. In the movie going to Hogwarts just seems like a fun, amazing adventure. They weren't careful with the emotional tone of the movie, their efforts were in being technically and factually correct. I hope this next movie is better. By the way, Alan Rickman came through with flying colors, Snape was the best thing in the movie. Somehow I feel you'll all agree!
Stacie
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 09:18:53 (PDT)

i would just like to comment on how nice this GB is and i love reading the posts from PL....However there are only a few performances left so...we must say goodbye to AR but bid hima speedy return:)
nelly
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 08:36:48 (PDT)

Hi... just read that in the Times (for what it's worth) and found the online version:

August 31, 2002

Secrets of the latest Potter film are revealed in web review By Jack Malvern, Arts Reporter

HARRY POTTER’S forthcoming appearance at the cinema is shrouded in as much mystery as the Chamber of Secrets itself, but a review of the film has already appeared on a respected website. Ain’t It Cool, a website which has become part of the Hollywood establishment, claims to have seen a version of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets that is almost the final cut.

The reviewer, who writes under the pseudonym of Walkabouter, describes the film as “superior to its predecessor”. He admits that people will be cynical about the review’s authenticity, but the website describes Walkabouter as one of its most reliable spies. Warner Brothers, which has the rights for all of J. K. Rowling’s Harry Potter series, has declined to comment.

Harry Knowles, who founded Ain’t It Cool in 1996, is highly respected in the film industry, and was named by Premiere magazine in its list of the 100 Most Powerful People in Hollywood. He has caused controversy by revealing that test audiences hated big-budget films such as Batman and Robin and Speed 2: Cruise Control.

He says: “Walkabouter has been with me for years. He’s as solid a spy as we get. He scares everyone at Warner Brothers. He was dead right about the first Harry Potter and dead on about Scooby Doo.”

The film is described as faster and funnier than the original Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone, but it “seems to have taken three steps forward but one step back”. The review criticises the film for being rough around the edges, especially in the final act. “They’ve also tried to condense everything, making it move faster and faster, while skipping over some nice details,” the reviewer says.

“In the first film, Harry was an outsider, a symbol of wide-eyed innocence coupled with soulful restraint. Here, Daniel Radcliffe is much more . . . playful. There’s a devilish twinkle in his eyes that wasn’t there before. He’s a little on edge and a lot more mischievous.

“Chamber of Secrets is turning out to be a really good flick. It’s funnier, spookier and a little more complicated, but as there’s so much crammed into one film, one can’t help but think that it’s both too much and not enough. It’s not that there’s anything missing — all the ingredients are there. But perhaps there’s some flavor (sic) lost when you don’t let the food simmer enough.” Rupert Grint, who plays Ron Weasley, is singled out for scene-stealing in his “comic relief” role. Alan Rickman is “under-used” but praised for his camp portrayal of the baddie.

The reviewer saves his highest praise for Kenneth Branagh, who he says might get an Oscar-nomination for his portrayal of Professor Gilderoy Lockhart, Harry’s new teacher of the dark arts. “He’s smug, vain, pompous and charming. He’s foolish and clever, witty and bumbling. This is not just Branagh doing Lockhart. It’s Branagh spoofing Branagh.” Robbie Coltrane’s return to his role as Hagrid is “lovable”.

A high point is the depiction of the game of Quidditch, faster and more thrilling than in the first film. The animated spiders, snakes and “whomping” tree are also praised .

The reviewer concedes that he was unable to enjoy the full impact of the film because he could not listen to the score, written by John Williams.

But [me talking now] the one I am really looking forward to is HP 3... I'm sure Cuaron will do something with it that will smack less of Hollywood and recapture a bit more of the book's magic. And hopefully he'll have the sense to make more use of Mr Rickman.

GML
UK - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 04:35:50 (PDT)

Thanks, Chris, for posting that for us. Great to see you here again, BTW!

However, since Linda has expressed her wish not to have her son's photo posted on the Internet and she is not home at the moment, I have deleted the link. I have also e-mailed her to let her know about it. If, when she returns home, she decides it's okay, I will put the link back or re-post it.

Suzanne <Suz@mail.usa.comfoo>
TX USA - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 21:51:18 (PDT)

If I were Alan, I would want that picture entitled Sony Awards on Claire's picture page deleted. In fact, I feel I can speak for Mr. Rickman, who always wishes to appear at his best, when I say strike that picture from the records! Pretend you never saw it!
Vera
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 20:50:01 (PDT)

"I dedicate the all of this for all of you That always working with love That always feeling something with heart" Pls visit me at : www.poem.surawung.com i need you all to make everything better and friendly .... see you R A K A
raka <rakayana@surawung.comfoo>
us - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 19:37:11 (PDT)

Whose webpage is that with the newspaper clipping of the boy with Alan? I don't want to offend anybody, but I don't think it's a good idea to post it without his mother's permission. I would ask that you please remove it and, Suzanne, can you also remove the link from the guestbook? Linda is on holiday until next week with her family and can't answer for herself. But I know it is her wish that Brian's photo not be published anywhere on the internet. I have the original photo because we're friends and I was there when it was taken, but have not published it on my website according to her wishes. I hope nobody is offended, but I don't want her to be upset when she returns. Last weekend, she told Alan about the article and he said she should send it to him in London when it's published. I hope you all understand. -Tami
Tami <chapman.1@nd.edufoo>
Notre Dame, IN USA - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 19:14:00 (PDT)

The boy's mom is Linda from NJ who posts here on occasion.
Mindy
CT USA - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 18:23:15 (PDT)

Chris (NJ) --what a nice article! Do we know this boy's mom, perhaps?
Ali-Pat <sa.pe@earthlink.netfoo>
Dayton, OH USA - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 18:17:43 (PDT)

Random fact: John Malkovich (who played Valmont in the movie "Dangerous Liasons") turned down the role of good ol' George, Sheriff of Nottingham...we all know who took the part instead...
"Lurker #435"
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 18:16:46 (PDT)

As for your jersey number-8, that was Troy Aikman's (football)number!!! I am sure you will find 8 as lucky as troy found it!
Kathy
Lewiston, Me - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 18:04:04 (PDT)

Steph, the number 7 is usually considered a perfect number. Divisible only by 1 and itself. Usually called primes I believe.
Harlii
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 17:58:17 (PDT)

Opened my local weekly (ok so I live in the boonies) today and found that the kid's page had an article on Alan! I've posted it here

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Copy and paste folks 'cause I'm too tired after putting up 275 bales of hay to do any more html.
Chris <ckwible@att.netfoo>
NJ - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 17:34:17 (PDT)

9. No reason.
Cynthia
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 17:00:12 (PDT)

6.
Vera
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 16:58:28 (PDT)

Steph - Thank you for posting that tip about how to add umlauts to my messages. I've always been envious of my European friends having international keyboards,but now I can umlaut with the best of them! ;-)

As far as jersey numbers ... I'm partial to "8" myself. (But then again, that might have something to do with the fact that I first saw PL on August 8th - eighth month/eighth day - and a very special day that was!) Good luck with your softball season!

Laura <trulymadlydeeply79@yahoo.comfoo>
Ontario, Canada - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 16:55:58 (PDT)

I have to pick a number for my softball jersey, I get to pick any number, within reason. Like between 1 - 25. I need some help!!! I'm thinking 21. Any suggestions?
Steph
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 14:55:44 (PDT)

For those who don't have umlauts on their keyboards you can make them by holding down the ALT button and pressing numbers on the keypad. Here are the little "codes":

ALT + 132 = ä

ALT + 148 = ö

ALT + 129 = ü

ALT + 225 = ß

ALT + 142 = Ä

ALT + 153 = Ö

ALT + 154 = Ü

"Geben Sie mir ein Fenster und, das ich aus ihm starren wurde." ~ Alan
Steph
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 14:13:08 (PDT)

I have never called anyone a "kraut" and neither do my circle of friends-anyone that says names like that is an idiot and should be considered so. I find it incredibly sad that people look to celebrities for guidance and meaning in their lives. Fortunately Alan Rickman is a decent person and our kids could do worse than want to be like him.
a concerned citizen
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 14:12:33 (PDT)

i think alan is great talent.HE make film look so great and i wish that i could see him in the states but no.
greta
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 12:52:47 (PDT)

AR keeps EVERYTHING fans send him!

He must have a great deal more storage space than I have in my apartment!
PM
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 12:01:57 (PDT)

Stacie--I really did enjoy reading your post and I think you are right. To Kathie Lee et al.--AABA -- POSSIBLE AABA SPOILERS: -- I thought maybe "thickers" was something George used in mixing up the paint/varnish/whatever he used in painting scenery, maybe like stiffening in fabric (re the scene where Stella is brushing some solution on the backdrop?). Since he made the tea in his workroom with all his work supplies. The line reminded me of when I used to have tea with a scientist who kept his milk in the same fridge where he stored his plant specimens. I used to wonder if I was only imagining that the milk sometimes tasted funny! Maybe someone could ask AR outside the stage door and tell the rest of us.
Lee
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 11:30:25 (PDT)

In the U.S, and I think in most of Europe, we do put actors and actresses on a pedestal. I can think of so many reasons why we do...one is that they are fictional characters 'come to life'. Rhett Butler in the novel Gone With the Wind is an attractive, sexy character. They made a movie, and you see him embodied in Clark Gable. A gorgeous man who acted the part perfectly. Let's say, you met Clark Gable,(back in the day). I think it would be hard to not have the lines of reality blurred a little. Clark Gable could be a schmuck, but you've got the book and movie in your mind. You're going to project those images onto him to a degree. At the very least you're going to be impressed with him for the 'magic trick' of creating the character on the screen. Creates a little awe, I think, of the man. The Greek Gods, who had wealth and power like today's celebrities, embodied the vices and virtues of human beings. People listened to those stories to learn about human psychology, cultural values, what virtues to emulate and the consequences of human vices. All embodied in these larger than life characters. Someone once wrote that celebrities serve the same purpose. We look to them to see how to live, to learn what's important in our culture, to fantasize about their wealth and power. I think people are at a loss. When we lived in smaller, closer knit societies everything was well-defined. Now we move often, neighbors don't talk, many towns don't even have a 'town', just a sprawl of chain stores...we don't live near extended families. We pick up a magazine and we see pictures of very healthy, rich, young (or surgically enhanced to look young), people in a warm, sunny place with palm trees, looking like they're enjoying life. And someone is taking pictures of them doing it, and printing them in magazines. They're getting attention, which most of us are not. They have national attention to every detail of their lives, money, looks, health, etc., we think they have the secret to happiness. We try to emulate them. We try to be thin, good-looking, get plastic surgery, go to Starbucks. It used to be the stars were always carrying bottles of Evian, now they always have a Starbucks cup in hand. I seriously wonder if they make deals with these companies. Anyway, people look up to them and learn from them ,(not that this is necessarily wise), like they did the Greek Gods. We are just tiny little specks of life in this great big universe and it's scary. We look for role models, sad but true, celebrities are today's role models. All celebrities are on a pedestal, not just Alan Rickman.
Stacie
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 09:52:41 (PDT)

Terri, you are welcome! ;-))
Lisa
Bavaria, - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 08:41:25 (PDT)

Liebe Lisa,

Vielen Dank!!

Deine Terri
Terri
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 07:54:26 (PDT)

Harlii, you absolutely made my morning! :-D That's taking all the energy that comes with fandom and turning into something really positive - not just for Alan and fans, but the world at large. Wow. What a *great* idea! I'll ponder if there's a specific way I can help, and if anything occurs to you, email me. I keep thinking there might be a way fans could help promote the "When Love Speaks" project, since Alan obviously endorsed that and it has a system in place???

Vera, re: shoved down his throat. Yes, a bit strong. Sorry. I guess if I was standing there and someone handed me a present I didn't ask for or feel I particularly deserved, I'd take it out of courtesy but I wouldn't be happy. I'd know others could use it more and that's just who I'd give it to. Gwenn's thoughtful account of her experiences and reactions resonated with me.

Why teachers? Because I think of all the jobs in our society, teacher is one of the least appreciated and most underpaid considering the effect they have on our culture. But it was mainly an example. *Everyone* makes contributions and it gets to me when Alan is lauded to the heavens for doing things that any normal person does in the course of his or her career. I read it as the rosy glow of infatuation putting him on a pedestal.

As for those celebs who can't even take half an hour to sign backstage autographs for the fans who so politely wait? Raspberries to them!!! To be fair, some are so popular they are taking a physical risk to wade into a crowd of heated fans, so I can appreciate at some level, an actor has no choice but go to work and otherwise, hide. That would be our fault. Society in general, I mean, for becoming hysterical about people we've seen in our living rooms on the Magic Box of the Gods. Remember, fan stands for fanatic. I was just watching a special on the Romans last night, and it freshly reminded me that people have always acted like this about some group in their society. Maybe I should be glad that for us, it is actors and not trained killers like the gladiators. It could be worse! (Oh, hell. I just remembered World Federated Wrestling. ...Nevermind.)
Cyndi <cyndik@eosdev.comfoo>
USA - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 07:46:46 (PDT)

Since we're talking about gift giving-I thought it would be nice to give Mr. Rickman something at the stage door. After all the times his talent has brought me enjoyment and inspiration, I figured why not give something back? I worked on a pencil drawing over a period of a few weeks. It was something of a collage: a group of characters he has portrayed, standing around a movie theater with Snape at the ticket window. (BTW if anyone would like to see it, please email me at alan.peterman@es en ee tee dot net and I will send it to you). When I thought it was good enough that a man with an artist's eye wouldn't think it was too bad, I had it framed. But after I did I thought it might be too cumbersome to bring into the theater with me. I didn't want to leave it at the coat check. What to do? I decided to take a picture of it and put it in a card with a little note. This is what I gave him on August 18th.

I did end up going again on the 25th to join some friends at the Door. This time I did bring the framed drawing and gave it to him. When he saw it, he drew a small rectangle across the glass with his forefinger and said he'd seen a smaller sketch of this...somewhere. I explained about the card. He then smiled and thanked me.

It was a nice experience and also shows he does pay attention to those letters and cards he gets. :)
Mindy
CT USA - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 07:11:45 (PDT)

Maxine - There's something called SNAPPY, which you can buy at stores that sell computer, ummm, things. It takes screen grabs (shots), and they come out really good.
Andrea I. Carkhuff <skydy99@att.netfoo>
new york, NY United States - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 07:00:05 (PDT)

Verena, I described it, it was when the first terrorist was found death in the elevator. Gruber always said: Ich habe dir gesagt, dass das niemand sehen soll. Ich sage dir das zum letzten Mal..." Nice accent, but sounds german and the meaning isn´t important... ;-))) Did you see Blow Dry in english? What a weird dialect!!! If you answer your english teacher in that dialect, he starts to cry! ;-)))
Lisa
Bavaria, - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 05:39:00 (PDT)

aahh,stop! It´s me again (I should use another name ;))

To Alan´s wonderful accent: Do you remember? The scene in front of the ... lift? Bruce Willis on the ...*lift-roof* (he writes the names on his hand,I guess) - Hans and XY are talking to each other ...Alan says something in german and it was really good! Correct and with a good accent,I think.

"Schieß dem Fenster" could have mean *Schieß AUF DAS Fenster*, but the translation ....(*Shoot the glass* ... but... glass is Glas,and Fenster is window,so it makes no sense... OH,I don´t know)

Ah,and in one scene,someone said *Leck mich* what means *Suck my abc* ...

So,that´s it for the next two days ;) (GIGGLE ;) ) BYE
verena, 3 Mal ist Bremer Recht ;)
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 05:35:57 (PDT)

@Stezi: I read, that Alan Rickman does a new movie with Emma Thompson and Hugh Grant. Private Lifes is over, now. I think he´s fed up by playing Private Lifes for this long time! - I don´t call British people "Tommies", but americans call us "Krauts", it´s as upsetting as Austrians call some german tourists "Piefke".
Lisa
Bavaria, - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 05:29:54 (PDT)

Verena: It was so funny watching "Die Hard" in english. Die Synchronstimme ist ja auch wirklich grauslig! But the synchronvoice in "Robin Hood" spoils the whole film, but the Sheriff is so sexy in his black clothes. ;-))))))))))) Woher bist du denn, Verena? Ich glaub, jeder hat jetzt mitbekommen, dass ich aus München bin... *lol* I hope, I can watch the January Man, because on that day I return from Italy. Sag mal, wie machst du eigentlich die Absätze in deine Einträge? Bei mir schoppt sich immer alles zusammen.
Lisa
Bavaria, - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 05:25:43 (PDT)

What a Salad !!!!! Hope you forgive me ;)
verena
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 05:18:53 (PDT)

*hihihi* - Lisa,musstest du auch so lachen wie ich,als ich DIE:HARD im Originalen sah? Dieser Akzent! (..*Schieß dem Fenster* war die Krönung! :D )

Germany = Bavaria = Polka etc .... That´s the image of our country. But on the other hand, the german folk thinks that all people in GB are Englishmen ... Brits call us *Krauts* , don´t they? We call them *Tommies* ... names with a negative sense ....

07.09.2002 - RHPoT on SAT.1 (? I´m not sure), 14.09.2002 - The January Man on RTL 2 and 16.09.2002 - S&S on SAT.1

So,that´s it .Write your messages while I am doing my homework f(x)= m x + b :D (smiling the whole day)
verena ....what a wonderful world!
falling in, love :D - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 05:16:08 (PDT)

Anne: What a horrible song ;-)) You must be drunk to sing that ;-))) On the Oktoberfest in Munich we sing: "Ich bin so schoen, ich bin so toll, ich bin der Anton aus Tirol!" And Tirol is a part of Austria *ggggggggggg* If you want to make the Umlaut: ä, ö, ü you must write ae, oe, ue. We have these letters on our keyboards. Oh, and: Some germans, who live in the middle or north germany can´t hear the difference between bavarian and austrian dialect. They thought in Vienna, I would sound like an austrian and a friend of Austria was thought to be Bavarian. OH MY GOD! *lol*
Lisa
Bavaria, - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 05:15:20 (PDT)

So, Alan is returning to London. What are his plans for the future. Is Private Lives coming back to London? I hope someone knows!
Stezi <stezi@wxs.nlfoo>
The Netherlands - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 04:00:58 (PDT)

Lisa - In my German class in college we sang this song: "Bier aus Bavaria ist gut fur malaria." I don't know if it was a real German song or something an American teacher made up. I do know it needs an umlaut or two.

I'm wondering how to put accent marks in the GB when my American keyboard doesn't have them? In Word I can use Insert/Symbol for u/umlaut or e/acute but how to do it here?

I forgot to thank all the kind souls who explained about the DoC. Thank you.
Anne/Manhattan
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 03:35:34 (PDT)

Terri: Hans Gruber doesn´t speak any dialect. He speaks the "writing german". That´s how the people in the radio and tv speak, when they read the news or when journalists speak. I can´t explain better, but perhaps you know what I try to say?
Lisa
Bavaria, - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 02:41:44 (PDT)

Hi Terri, of course I can help you: Well, the one should have said: "Er ist im 33. Stock", and I don´t know what a "Heizeraum" is. Correct is: "Er ist im Heizungsraum". The one who died first, went in the cellar and says "left, right, left" He is German so he told everything right, when Hans Gruber told his name, there were such a strange accent by "Gruber" that I started giggleing. And when Gruber goes mad about the first death terrorist in the elevator - wow, what a accent ;-))) But: "Schiess dem Fenster" was the best of all! *lol* This glass wasn´t a "Fenster", because "Fenster" = window!!! This was a big office with glasses to seperate the employees (right spelling? I think not...) from each other to guarantee (?) that they don´t disturb themselve. So, he could have said: "Zerschiesse die Scheiben" or "Schiess auf die Scheiben" or "Schiess in die Scheiben". Did I already tell you, that one of the blond, longhaired terrorist was Bavarian? When I disovered this (terrorist watch the lonely policeman entering the building), I started to giggle - it´s really funny. But: I´m always upset if foreigners always think of Germany in that manner: men wear leather trousers and woman these folklore-dresses and everybody dances to Polkamusic. That drives me mad and I really feel ashamed. Terri, du musst nicht "Sie" zu mir sagen, du darfst mich ruhig duzen. Und wenn du nächstes mal "Die Hard" anschaust, lach genauso darüber, die Leute haben sich echt Mühe gegeben! ;-))))))))))))))
Lisa
Bavaria, - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 02:37:43 (PDT)

Although the technology exists, the public cannot get a good picture of a scene from movies/films, due to copywrites. It doesn't hurt to try. Can anyone provide information on how to get a high quality picture of A.R. in the movie "Mesmer"? I am tired of taking pictures with a camera (it doesn't matter what quality it is ie 35 mm, digital, format) from T.V. (with VHS or DVD) because the result is a poor quality photograph. Culprit: those damn electrons from the screen! See the most beautiful face in the world - Alan Rickman up close in "Mesmer" - in the beginning and the end of that movie, where the "Royal Society of Medicine Brd" criticizes the birth of hypnotism (animal magnetism) and its founder -F.A. Mesmer played by A.R. In reality, A.R. certainly has animal magnestism - look how we are all drawn to him... Maxine Share
Maxine Share <maxineshare46@hotmailfoo>
Toronto, Canada - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 01:44:00 (PDT)

If you all can stand one more on the subject of gifts - this has nothing to do with AR but is incredibly cool nonetheless. A friend of mine wrote to an actor a few years back, he replied, and they struck up a friendship (strictly Platonic - he's married). She sent him a tie for either Christmas or his birthday and when Googling his recent tour found pictures of him wearing her gift, which he'd chosen - from all the millions of nice ties he must own - to wear in the show. Not quite the ultimate fan fantasy, but pretty good!

Julia - Good post.

Fast Film - I never replied to your "megaspoiler" of a week or two ago because I still haven't gotten around to watching Dark Harbor, but got a big kick out of it. You want to know another terrible thing I do? I get about three chapters into a murder mystery and then read the last few pages. I know, I'm going straight to Hell.

Suzanne - Did you get something from me a couple of days ago? The email police at my firm sometimes zap outgoing attachments without notifying the sender that the mail didn't go through, and you mentioned computer problems. It wasn't anything important - just chat and a couple of photos.
Anne/Manhattan
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 00:08:02 (PDT)

Lisa aus Bavaria, koennen Sie mir bitte helfen?

You wrote you giggle whe you see the terrorists of DIE HARD try to sound german. I am not a native speaker of English or German, but I always thought something is wrong with the German Alan spoke. For example.... the scene where Hans talks to his fellow terrorists behind McClane that McClane is on the 33rd floor, he says something like (I think I hear him say) "Dreiunddreissigster Stock ist er." But if I am right, he should have said something like "Im dreiunddreissigsten Stock ist er."

Another scene where Hans told Karl to shoot the glas.... I hear Alan say "Schiess den Fenster!" But I think he should have said, "Schiess die Fenster!"

One more question.... which German dialect do you think Alan tried to speak? I have always wondered which part of Germany Herr Gruber is from.

Lisa and other German ladies, your comments would be hightly appreciated.
Terri
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 22:43:45 (PDT)

it?
Stacie
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 22:24:23 (PDT)

'Until we meet again, Katherine Hawkins.' Cool sign-off. Just saw that in someone's post from a while ago. I'm going to have to try something like that. Anyway, Marialis, you said that a person would need a bit of a masochistic side to be attracted to all of Alan's characters. I think that's true. When people say they are infatuated with Snape, that's a sort of masochistic fantasy isn't?
Stacie
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 22:23:38 (PDT)

You can't hear 'tone of voice' in a posting, so Cyndi I want you to know I didn't intend my last post to sound in any way nasty. I mean in all sincerety I don't understand your point of view. I'm not being sarcastic or insulting. It may sound that way, so I wanted to clear that up. (Did I spell 'sincerety' right? Any teachers out there? Or dictionaries handy?)
Vera
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 21:54:09 (PDT)

Marialis you're right. The Conan O'Brian show, like many other U.S. celebrity talk shows,are prepared in advance, and the point is to be ready with humorous anecdotes. Alan was well prepared and his 'performance' went very smoothly. He knew exactly what was expected of him and came through. Some celebrities are noticeably awkward and insecure on talk shows, but Alan was a pro on Conan.
Cynthia
CA USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 21:46:07 (PDT)

Cyndi,... 'for what fans force down his throat'? An adult woman handing an admired adult man a stuffed animal as a gift is not forcing anything down his throat. I know you didn't mean that literally, but I don't see it figuratively either. That's a very unusual take on the situation. Sometimes I don't agree, but I understand where the person is coming from. Your point of view I don't even understand.
Vera
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 21:34:40 (PDT)

Rent for "the projects" is not government paid here, just assisted, so that's not quite an accurate comparison for council flats. U.S.A. is far less socialistic, for better or worse.
FastFilm
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 21:18:39 (PDT)

Gwenn, thanks for your perspective. I think the gift giving thing really comes down to the fact that humans are social animals, and gift giving serves a lot of purposes. Sometimes we give gifts to stand out (we Rickmaniacs might hope Alan will remember us), or to say thank you, or to elicit a positive response (which, for a person so involved in his work as AR is, is certainly useful) or just because we have been thinking about this person and we care enough to give them a token of that (we hope AR might like this or that). I'm sure AR is both touiched and slightly embarassed by the attention. I've certainly seen those reactions from him. But I hope that he has enough respect for us as people, and not just as fans to give our gifts a chance (read the books, listen to the music, etc). If nothing else, I would be curious about some of the gifts people gave me, if I were Alan. I'd probably try to give it some time. I might even use it as an unwinding thing after a performance... like, "Let's see, what's this CD? or this scrapbook? or this novel?" I'm sure even big ethical issues like world poverty and environmentalism could be worked into the gift-giving thing; you could raise AR's awareness about issues dear to your heart.

Harli, (hope I spelled that right) It sounds like an incredible idea. I'm willing to back it. Just let me know what I can do. I used to do alot of charity/volunteer work but since I've moved off to college, I haven't been able to do much. Last thing I did was help cycle for the Cancer Society on the Natchez Trace Parkway, but that itself was a few months ago. I love doing my best for others and am willing to help.
JC
AL - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 20:00:00 (PDT)

I have an idea. In the interest of trying to find a happy medium here with some of the recent viewpoints expressed about gift giving and the like, I'd like for us to do something. This is super off the top of my head because what I had written here was yet another caustic comment to Cyndi. Well, ya can't say I'm not honest. Anyway, here's my idea.

Would any of you be interested in working with me to find a charity somewhere like a battered women's shelter or some place similar (maybe one in the states and one overseas) to donate some of our stuff to? When I say stuff, I mean perhaps one Alan item, video, book, play or movie scripts, etc. and one er, regular item, perhaps another general video or book or personal product like shampoo, soap, combs, brushes, etc. Like I said, this is just an off the top of my head idea. I don't know what the rest of you do philanthropically (is that a word?) and it's none of my business, but instead of having such heated discussions about who's worthy to receive gift A or B, I'd like to do something constructive and show my willingness to unload/donate/share some of my Alan grip and other stuff. If you're interested in working with me on the specifics of how we can do this, please e-mail me at (in code here, too much spam) l m h p r 0 0 at knology dot net (that's two zeros). I'm serious. If no one wants to do it, I'll do it myself with whoever else wants to do it. Thanks. And sorry for upsetting anyone today with the ongoing saga of gifts and Harliisms.
Harlii
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 19:50:17 (PDT)

I agree that it would be rude for Alan not to accept gifts given tastefully. What he does with them after that is up to him. Also, we spoke with Jimmy at the stage door last weekend and he told us that in the 24 years he has worked at the theatre no other actor has faithfully signed after every performance, except maybe Matthew Broderick and John Stamos. For this alone, Alan is commendable and I don't expect him to do it as merely "part of his job." He is head and shoulders above his peers in this regard. In addition, Jimmy also told us that Alan reads and answers (I believe this mainly applies to photo requests) all his mail and keeps EVERYTHING fans send him. He has already packed up most of the gifts and shipped them off to London, including the wine goblets we gave him last month. I do agree, however, that the most appropriate and maybe the most appreciated gifts are cards, letters, and scrapbooks. Jimmy told us that he is very generous to the crew and shares all his food items with them. We had the idea last month that instead of always asking for his photo and autograph, we would give him ours. So the fans from my website, along with Carrie's site (ARASK) sent photos of themselves with personal messages which we compiled in a rather plain brown scrapbook which we presented to Alan in July. Last weekend, when I was in NY again, I asked Alan about the scrapbook and he remembered and described it. He then proceeded to thank me, and tell me that he likes it very much and keeps it in his dressing room followed by the most radiant smile. I'm not sure what this adds to the discussion here, but I hope it helps shed some light on Alan's attitude towards gifts.
Tami <chapman.1@nd.edufoo>
Notre Dame, IN USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 19:48:02 (PDT)

TAMI! Oh my goodness! That was you I saw Saturday night! I was there too!!! I just realized it after reading one of your past posts. I can't believe it! I remember seeing you!

Ok, now I'm being pathetic. My eyes are tearing up. This is so neat, I remember seeing you! I think I'm standing directly behind you in your pictures. If you'd like, e-mail me, I'd love to talk about last Saturday night.

Question for you. I recognized Bernadette Peters, BUT, who was the man that went in? He came out BARELY before Alan came out. He's incredibally familiar, but I can't bring out a name.

FYI: My e-mail address is either gillejc@auburn.edu or if that doesn't work, Alvin415@aol.com.
Jayne Claire
AL sorry for posting back to back - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 19:37:14 (PDT)

Becky, just wanted to say I send my Mississippi homeland greetings to you! HOWDY! Just noticed you were from MS. LoL Me too! Heading home tomorrow too, H'burg.

As for the ongoing discussion, NOTICE I said discussion rather than argument, cause that's mainly as I see it. I think I'm a bit too shy to give my two cents (as if I, a college freshman could afford two cents right now) as I see it, but Cyndi, I noticed you mentioned "teachers" in one of your latest post. Call me blank, where'd that part come from? Comparrison? It sounds like you and I both give a great deal of respect to teachers so I just thought I'd ask.

Maybe after that I can give my two cents. I know what I want to say, just not quite HOW to say it.
Jayne Claire
AL - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 19:18:29 (PDT)

i love this website. i havent been able to see what been goin on for a few days but i know that im bound to find sumthin delicious on this page!
ariel
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 16:58:50 (PDT)

Deborah, You're right, it makes no sense that I should feel angry at him for what fans force down his throat. I guess I feel someone should stop it, and he could if he politely refused. But then there would be hurt feelings - I suppose it's kinder of him to just drop them off at the local hospital or whatever. Actually, at this particular moment, I find I am mad at us. Society in general, I mean. I've never done much for teachers myself, but I have cooed about Alan. To be honest, teachers have gifted me with more of value. Sorry about being so adamant. I usually just grit my teeth each time it comes up, so of course, when I do say something about it, it's lots. I'm done now though, thanks for listening. :-)
Cyndi
USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 16:38:44 (PDT)

Steph, you're absolutely right. But argument? Seems more like a discussion to me (a useless one no doubt) but come to my house when the in-laws are here, to witness an argument! *lol* I know I probably shouldn't respond to Cyndi's post, but I feel I must say my 2 cents in this discussion, so here goes: Cyndi, I wish you wouldn't like him less for accepting gifts (WHY I even care if you do or not I can't figure out!). Because you're right, he didn't ask for them. But what do you think is appropriate? That he SHOULDN'T accept them? Refusing gifts is considered very, very rude adn hurtful to the giver. So does that mean you would like him more if he were rude and hurtful to people? I respect your opinion, and you are entitled to it, but it just doesn't make any sense to ME. Thank you for letting me express MY opinion.
Deborah
Tucson, AZ USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 16:13:27 (PDT)

To Kat H from Ohio, Council estates are the UK equivalent, I think, of "the projects", as far as I understand what THEY are!! LOL. Anyway, they are houses owned and provided by the government, for which rent is paid.
Helen
Cheshire, Uk - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 16:05:38 (PDT)

GML: Hate to get back to the original discussion, since this gift-giving theme has taken on a mind of its own , but I wonder WHY you feel you are "less generous to our hero when it comes to his 'left-wing' professed views".

The reason I'm curious is because one of the things I admire about Alan is his political views and I'm curious why being an actor and living that lifestyle automatically makes ones political views suspect. Has he specifically done something that causes you (and others) to think that way?

Thanks for any insight you (or anyone) can provide. Just being curious.
Rhea
AZ USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 15:40:22 (PDT)

Rickman has earned his success and status in the entertainment industry by being hard working, pleasant{at least to the working stiffs, if not the authority figures} and learning, practicing and developing his craft. Falling off buildings, climbing on roofs, giving political speeches to five thousand people in a country where people can be violent to those with opposing viewpoints, endless hours learning to ride horses, fight with swords, dive into frigid water, kiss unattractive young men when he prefers attractive females{no woman that has ever met him can believe he's gay unless they are} He has paid his dues. Do I feel that he is more deserving than a doctor, nurse, physical therapist, teacher, plumber, politician. No, and I don't think he does either. I have felt for a while that he is ambivalent about accepting gifts, except for scrapbooks, cards etc. Doesn't want to encourage fantasies of a relationship, probably.
a concerned citizen
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 15:39:16 (PDT)

I really do not want to be a part of this discussion, rather arguement, about giving gifts and what not, but I am just wondering why you guys are arguing?

It is just someone else's opinion, why should you let it get to you? You do not have to believe what other people say or even listen to them, even though some comments will be eating away at you to send a nasty response back.

Whether it is right or not to give someone a gift does not really matter. It is a personal decision if you want to give them something for their efforts or not. Some people just say "Thank you" in different ways.

This is just my opinion and I know everyone will probablly just disregard it but I was just curious why all this arguing?
Steph
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 15:38:21 (PDT)

Could someone explain to this silly old American the meaning of "council estate"? I see that term often and would like to understand the nuances of it. Thanks.
Kat H
Kent, OH USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 15:30:32 (PDT)

Here are my two cents, from a different perspective. I used to be a professional dancer, and for 3 years I appeared in the Nutcracker in New York City. Obviously, this does not make me anywhere near as famous as Mr. Rickman, so please don't anybody tease me about it. My point is that people (usually young girls) would wait outside the stage door and ask for autographs and photos. It was a lot of fun, cause it was only temporary celebrity--not long enough for it to get weary. Plus, the girls were so funny and genuine--it was a hoot and a delight to answer their questions, and to get to be somebody's hero for 5 minutes.

Anyway, on any given night, you'd get some gifts. Sometimes it was a picture somebody drew, or a little statue of a ballerina, etc. It was very sweet that some young girl took the time to draw me a picture, or spent some of her allowance money--hard-earned, I'm sure--on a gift for me. But it really gave me conflicting feelings. I felt totally unworthy of it--all I did was my job, which I loved and already felt priveleged to be able to do. I really wished these girls had saved their money on something other than a present for me. The cards were better--they didn't cost anything--and they hung in the dressing room for the duration of the run, but at the end I had to throw them out since there was absolutely NO room in my tiny NYC apt. to be a pack rat. It always made me feel bad to throw them out.

Obviously, there are many differences between my situation and Mr. Rickman's, but I do wonder if he ever feels the same quandary that I felt--can't keep it, but hate to throw it out or give it away, knowing how much it meant to somebody for me to have it. This is perhaps exacerbated by the fact that he is staying in a hotel while here, and would have to ship all this stuff home eventually!

I sincerely hope I didn't offend anyone who has given him a gift, or plans to in the next 3 days. I feel absolutely certain that all but the MOST jaded performer is always touched when somebody thinks enough of their work to express it with a gift.
Gwenn <moregato@hotmail.comfoo>
NYC, US - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 15:22:11 (PDT)

Well, I did start out addressing you and continued by noting common fan actions, and I'm sorry if that confused but Harlii, I think you understand my basic point. On a person-to-person basis, everyone here is as important to the world as Mr. Rickman, and perhaps more so, depending on the person. He makes ten times what a school teacher makes and you can't tell me he works harder for the money. I don't see us lining up in the schoolyard, asking for their autograph and bringing fruit baskets because we so appreciate all they do. Why? Fame=honor? Or is it just a lot easier to give gifts to the object of a crush? I have met a few celebrities in business situations. They eat, they breath, they make gaffes, they play with the pens in long meetings, they are...people. Just like you and me.

I swear to God, at this point, if I ever do go to see the play, and I ever do stand at the stage door, he is going to be darned surprised when I give him my autographed picture, instead of asking for his. I work hard and sometimes overtime. I'm nice to people who praise and adore me. He should want my signature, since I'm so fine and admirable. Lucky him. And if I see someone giving him a Rolex for the privilege of standing in his presence...well, let's hope I don't. There could be A Scene, as the paramedics have to revive me. I'm really starting to dislike him for this, and he never asked for the gifts.
Cyndi
USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 15:14:40 (PDT)

Cynthia, you said it perfectly!!! That is exactly why *I* gave him a gift.
Cyndi, where I was brought up, *everyone* is entitled to respect (unless they actually did something to make themselves unworthy of it). That's what my mamma taught me (sometimes I think what's wrong with this world is nobody teaches their children manners anymore).
Becky
MS USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 15:06:25 (PDT)

Cindy:

I've made you feel defensive. No, you haven't. I just expressing an alternate viewpoint that perhaps others share.

Harlii, you have a website for him. Correction, I have a message board where people who met here FIRST post. It's not an Alan Rickman message board, per se.

You dedicate big hours of your life to promoting him. Sorry, wrong again. I spend big hours of my life getting to know the women at my board and at other boards totally unrelated to Alan Rickman.

You go to his plays and films, ensuring he is employable. You wait for him at the backstage door, so you can shake his hand and tell him personally you think he's marvelous. I've been to one play. I've been to Harry Potter 4 times because I like Harry Potter first and foremost and Alan second, but MOST of my money spent Alan-ward has been spent on eBay for photographs because I think he's hot and I just want to look at him. I waited at the stage door on one evening for about half an hour and managed to squeak out, "Could you sign this please?"

Exactly how much more appreciated does a person need to feel? I don't know. Whose call is that to make? Who's to say he DOES feel appreciated? Is it your place to instruct others how to express their admiration for anyone?

I don't know why I bother responding to you at all...We've been down this road before. You regularly take issue with anyone who expresses their admiration for Alan in a way that clashes with your personal beliefs and then express yourself in such a way that it appears you think less of them for THEIR beliefs. If the *YOU* comments in the message weren't meant for me, Harlii/Lori, I apologize for selecting so many quotes as if they were directed to me specifically, as opposed to anyone else. But that's what it looked like.
Harlii
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 14:49:53 (PDT)

Giving gifts

Well, I understand both points of view. Yes, certainly, AR has loads more purchasing power than I do at this time in my life and he doesn't need any little gifties I'm able to bring.

But I confess I gave AR and LD gifts. As "thank yous," yes, and as a sense of connection, true -- but also for my own selfish reasons.

I listen to filk music. It's a genre (thankfully) far below the radar of the mainline music industry. But there are some fine musicians in it (Tom Smith, Julia Ecklar, Heather Alexander, Zander Nyrond, Kathy Mar, Echo's Children...). So I burned a CD of songs I either A) thought AR would enjoy or B) reminded me of him in some way.

In addition, I gave him a book by my favorite author Lois McMaster Bujold, because I think she has some great things to say about people. (And, if AR decides he likes it enough to make a film, hey -- I'm all right with that, too.)

So, there are a number of reasons for gift-giving. These are mine....

PS: Respect. I think that all people are deserving of a certain level of respect, until they prove unworthy of it. As for me -- I call it "courtesy." Above and beyond "courtesy," is what I think Cyndi(?) is thinking of when she says "respect" -- that deep admiration for honorable behaviour.

With that in mind, I respect Alan Rickman. (You wouldn't know it, from the songs!) I respect that he left a successful business to follow his gut, in a field where monetary success is uncertain. I respect that he tried to live "inside the box" before he dismissed it and followed his muse. I respect his public behaviour as a considerate, polite and helpful human being. I respect that he uses his noteriety to assist others (Amnesty, Big Night Out, etc). I respect that he is fierce in maintaining a division between his public and private lives.

Wow.... look at this soapbox! Where on earth did that come from?!?! *whew!*

Clambering off the soapbox on top of the high horse, I remain,
Barbara the Wallpaperer
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 14:45:25 (PDT)

I think one, and I mean one, I'm sure there are others, of the reasons people give gifts to Alan is to make a connection with him. He may be eating my chocolates, he may be listening to my CD, he has my gift bag in his hand...that's pretty exciting I'm sure. Also, people feel personally touched by his performance, and in love with him to a degree, and they are total strangers. That's frustrating. The gift is a bridge. It wouldn't occur to me to be bothered by gift-giving to Alan. The fans know he doesn't need the material gift, it's a symbol. It means Alan you've made a difference in my life, you've given to me, please take this from me as a symbol of my gratitude, affection and love. It gives me pleasure to see you get something from me now, to reciprocate. That's what I imagine it means to some fans. I've never met him or sent a gift to him. Almost all gift giving could be suspect if you think the way some do. I just went to a party, the hostess is wealthy. I brought a hostess gift. She didn't need it, but I was saying thank you for your efforts in party-making. Alan put on a show, the fans are bringing a 'host'gift. It's interesting to hear these other points of view, though, because as I said, I wouldn't have imagined any reason to object. Our differences makes things interesting, how boring if we always agreed.
Cynthia
CA USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 14:27:40 (PDT)

Certainly he is entitled to the respect and status and generally does not try to lord it over others. How is he "entitled" to respect? Where I come from, people have to earn it. Unfortunately, having a nice voice and being in a movie is too often all it takes. (Please don't tell me he is worthy of respect because he gives out autographs and doesn't trample the people waiting to praise him after work. I think that's nice but it's what I would expect of anyone. Yes, I know there are celebrities who don't even go that far. Very rude of them, IMHO.)
Cyndi
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 14:17:09 (PDT)

I believe that hotel rooms, etc are a part of the negotiations for a movie/play/promotion. The quality of the room is an indication of status and respect in the industry. I think that AR tries to strike a balance between ostentation and utilitarianism. Certainly he is entitled to the respect and status and generally does not try to lord it over others. Sometimes it seems like he goes overboard the other way, but that is a rather endearing fault, isn't it. There is a certain working class resentment about those who "live above their station", as there is still a small bit of stigma left about being "council estate". I think it must have been difficult to meld his childhood, youth, early adulthood and his monetary success as an older adult. Does one ever rise above their origins? How much wealth and comfort should a labor supporter enjoy? Is it wrong to enjoy the fruits of one's labors? Is a "no view" hotel room in a posh hotel better than a motel six? Should he give all his money away and live in a cardboard box under a bridge? It seems to me that he wears prada to industry functions and regular guy clothes the rest of the time. Seems like a nice compromise to me, and I suspect that we are not aware of all the people he has supported and helped, to say nothing of the charities that he contributes to. Trump Towers is ostentation. {with all that money, why cant "The Donald" find a decent barber who will stop him from that denial of baldness know as a "combover". Isn't it nice that Rickman has hair?
a concerned citizen
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 14:03:48 (PDT)

I have some, rather a lot, or pictures from PL (May 4th and August 25th). If anyone was there either of those days or you just want to see them e-mail me @ SLK6891@aol.com.
Eaten Ship ... or Steph
CT - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 14:02:19 (PDT)

I've made you feel defensive. I'm sorry. I haven't changed my mind, though. Harlii, you have a web site for him. You dedicate big hours of your life to promoting him. You go to his plays and films, ensuring he is employable. You wait for him at the backstage door, so you can shake his hand and tell him personally you think he's marvelous. Exactly how much more appreciated does a person need to feel? Your donations to charity are none of my business? No, of course not. But I'm sure that your generosity extends to people who would truly benefit from material sharing, as well as rich movie stars who don't need it and didn't ask for it.
Cyndi
USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 13:44:11 (PDT)

Hi, just a few comments in passing, alas no time and no inclination to catch up with the last few days. As regards the more recent 'Jose' story, though, I thought it would only be fair to Mr Rickman to explain to non-Europeans that Europe is made of a lot of countries which all have their own language and that funny accents, misunderstandings etc are commonplace and in fact jokes about them is a great help in diffusing frustrating situations and bridging over the obvious differences between people, as a few girls here have already explained. (Ach!;)) - it certainly wasn't a racist comment on his part - indeed, it is a tribute to the rather pure nature of the guy that it didn't even *occur* to him that it might be interpreted as one! I suppose he was guilty of being a little oblivious of the social issues of the country he was addressing, but no more. Hope this is useful in explaining what may have caused genuine worry to a few...

I must say I'm less generous to our hero when it comes to his 'left-wing' professed views though, I certainly no longer consider him a left-wing person, but to be fair, it must be difficult to keep it up when all your friends and acquaintances are desperate to splash their cash. It would take uncommon will. I know the feeling: I always end up spending more than I wish to when I visit friends in America, simply because they are richer than I am and I do not wish to spoil *their* fun by imposing a 'poorer' holiday on them. Let's put it that way: he hopefully draws the line at doing a Paltrow. (I read in a broadsheet today that she has just spent £15,000 on a new mobile (cell) phone. That would be about $22,000. Now regardless of what she may give to charitable causes, that isn't distasteful, that is plain indecent.)

Uh, I'm sure I logged in to say something else that all this... can't remember now. Ah, so I'll tell you about the 'Queens in Theatre' exhibition in Bristol. I was there for my work a few days ago, so I didn't miss the chance to go visit it (somebody here posted a link showing a photograph of Mr Rickman in drag as Ma Ubu in a Bristol production). Well, I saw the *whole* photograph there, not just the painted face and wig... hey, nice boobs, Alan! :)) It was a small but very interesting exhibition on the whole, with lots of photos from very old productions including many young fresh faces who have become household names today (Judi Dench as a teenage Juliet, wow!).

Dammit, I still can't remember what I logged on to say... *scratches head*

GML
UK - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 13:35:19 (PDT)

Very interesting points. I think we've discussed it before here. Hmm. I don't have a problem with giving gifts to anyone, no matter what their status or income. That's just me and I am a generous person, though I don't have much myself...I just like to buy and give gifts.

I know that many people have commented that stars, such as Alan Rickman, can't possibly keep all the things they're given, why waste money, etc.? I don't consider it a waste of money. Gifts are usually an outward expression of one's feelings/appreciation for another person, so whether he keeps them or not isn't the issue to me. The issue, in my opinion, is that he sees the item, recognizes the heartfelt appreciation that accompanies the item and realizes that he's not playing to people who don't care. And if after he opens items given to him, he donates them to a charity or shares them with family and friends, then bully for him.

Our group sent him a gift basket to thank him for his efforts as an actor and for *bringing us together*...sounds sappy perhaps, but we meant it. We didn't spend a fortune on the items, just the shipping. Oy! Anyway, I don't care what he did with most of the stuff, I just hope he kept my Alabama banjo on his knee!!

And if anyone wants to speak to me offline concerning whether or not I matched my Alan gifts with comparable charitable donations, e-mail me at lori@itsnoneofyourbusiness.com
Harlii
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 13:00:11 (PDT)

Cyndi (and Claudia), Couldn't agree with you more! (Why would I buy a gift for Alan - he could afford more than I ever could!)

I guess the point I was trying to make is that I don't think one can assume he exhibits "ostentatious displays of wealth and status" because he travels and stays at nice hotels. Many times these travels are paid for by the studios and sometimes they're even part of his job.

I also don't think that (from what I've heard) his lifestyle in any way contradicts what political beliefs he espouses. If anything, sharing the gifts that he receives with others (as it has been noted he does) reaffirms them.

Maybe I'm missing something here . . .
Rhea
AZ USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 12:55:43 (PDT)

Constance, about Ang Lee comment on Charlie Rose: We all have our different interpretations of Alan's comment. I just wanted to share mine : ) Charlie Rose transcript excerpt from Tami's site: ALAN RICKMAN: And then there was an inspired choice of director, which was Ang Lee. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. ALAN RICKMAN: To come and-- you know, this Hong-Kong-born director to come and-- or was he Taiwan? Anyway, to-- CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah, Asian. ALAN RICKMAN: Well, I don't wish to insult him, but anyway he's a brilliant director, but to have him come and direct this kind of quintessentially English comedy of manners. But it was a brilliant choice because, of course, heunderstands all of that from his own culture. So, on those levels it was an extraordinary experience, and the film was peopled by a lot of actors who knew each other from the theater so there was a sense of process. Ang had lots of rehearsals. We had to write essays about our characters, write letter about our characters, have movement classes, all of that -- all of which helped enormously. I think that when Alan said "Well, I don't wish to insult him..." he meant that he didn't want to insult Ang Lee by calling him the wrong nationality (Hong-Kong-born as opposed to Taiwan-born). I think Charlie Rose said "Asian" to get the point across that Lee is Asian, so Alan could get to his main point, the concept of an Asian director joining with a British cast, which made the experience and the film new and different, in a positive way.
Amy L.
NY USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 12:54:29 (PDT)

Cyndi....girl I think you can read my mind! Your thoughts on the AR gift giving is right up my alley. I find it difficult to read about all the gifts that have been given to him as well. My goodness...and someone even wrote about giving him a gift for Ms Horton. Now how spooky is that????
Claudia
GA US - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 12:26:33 (PDT)

But I do find ostentatious displays of wealth and status distasteful; and I think I have a right to that opinion. Me, too. This world is in a peck of trouble. It's true, in times of great financial hardship, the masses have often looked to celebrities to live the life of luxury they cannot. I don't think these times are those, since many of our crises relate to using up the whole world's resources, without thought or let. More like the years right before Marie said "Let them eat cake" and found it was the Wrong Attitude.

Personally, I buy from manufacturers and stores that sell and do business with earth responsibility in mind, I vote for politician who think green, and I'm a ton more likely to admire a celebrity who echoes those sentiments. Can't help it.

Since I've hauled my little soapbox out, I'd like to again mention that I think it's really sweet when people make gifts for Alan to deliver at the stage door, like the photos and things. But I'm always really disturbed when people talk about *buying* gifts for him. I have to believe he doesn't need them and it makes me a little defensive on the part of the gift givers. They're people as worthy as Alan. Why doesn't he bring out little gifts to give the fans? I suspect everyone here has had hardships in her life, works hard at her craft, and often goes the extra mile to be nice to her co-workers and friends, even when she's tired at the end of a long day. I'm glad Alan does, too, but I have to say if those are the criteria for worship, six out of ten people I know deserve it. :-) Meet him? Exciting, I would think. Shake his hand and get an autograph. A thrill, I'd love to do that. Enjoy his plays and films? Oh, yeah. Worship him? No, I still draw the line at that. He seems very human to me. Just famous.
Cyndi
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 12:17:12 (PDT)

Oooh, Thanks Suzanne. I'd never seen that article. I love his phrase . . . "It's fun being naughty!" (Conjures up all kinds of images! *g*

I find it a strange reference . . . "Upstairs, in the British actor's $550-a-night, no-view suite .. ". (Wonder how much the suite with-a-view costs??) I suppose the journalist is pointing out how "far up in the world" he'd come, but you can be sure that if this was a press junket for the movie (as is referenced) it was paid for by the movie studio. Knowing what's been written about Alan and press junkets - he'd probably rather not be there at all.
Rhea
AZ USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 12:11:02 (PDT)

The Carlyle is mentioned in the Free Spirit article.

Thanks a bunch Tami, I really appreciate that! And I wish we could have met in NY also. Sure I remember Linda and Melissa. Wonderful ladies! I will never forget what a fun time we had. And what an amazing photo, Melissa, that Joanne just posted! I am sad to think that PL will be over in a few days, but I hope everyone going to the last performances have a fantastic time and will tell us all about it!

Suzanne <Suz@mail.usa.comfoo>
TX USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 11:41:59 (PDT)

Julia: Fair enough. I guess I just thought your descriptive word - "disgusting" was a little extreme. But, as you say - we all have our own opinions. I'm not sure I know of too many celebrities that don't live an "ostentatious lifestyle". Seems to come with the territory.

I know that Alan loves to travel, he has mentioned that in several interviews. Guess I wouldn't turn down the chance to stay in nice places if I could either. I don't think it reflects on my political beliefs, however.

(And BTW - wasn't suggesting you were doing anything illegal! Would be interested in know which articles you were referencing, though.)
Rhea
AZ USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 11:01:16 (PDT)

Rhea: I'm sure Alan is very sincere in his left-wing beliefs. I know he contributes and gives back to the community. I feel he deserves to lead a good life especially since he's so talented and had a difficult early life. I do not demand anything of Alan, especially not to prove himself to me. But I do find ostentatious displays of wealth and status distasteful; and I think I have a right to that opinion.

Hi everyone. Usually I just enjoy reading the posts--particularly those from the stage doors. But I feel I have to jump into the fray here for a moment.

It is not an insult to say that someone is gay. If it's true, then fine, and if it's not true, then it's a mistake, but not an insult. To see it as an insult is, um...problematic.

Besides, I think that we all know that it doesn't make one smidge of difference in any of our lives whether he's gay or straight. The straight women and gay men who frequent this and other boards can still have their fantasies--regardless of what goes on in Mr. Rickman's private life. So knock your socks off, and stop worrying about whether he likes "oysters or snails", to quote another fine English actor. :-)
Gwenn <moregato@hotmail.comfoo>
NYC US - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:40:20 (PDT)

To Julia:

Well . . . I don't think it's "disguisting" to believe in left-wing ideals and live a good life style. First of all, do you know how much he might contribute to charities out of his own pocket?? Do you know all the causes to which he's lent his name (and, therefore, helped the cause)? Do you know if these fancy places he stays in are paid for by the studios/backers? Are you saying he should deny any comfortable living to believe in the left-wing ideology? I'm just wondering to what extent he'd need to go to make you feel he's sincere.

Could you also tell me how you get the information you do about where he's stayed?

Rhea
AZ USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:20:48 (PDT)

Hi Tami! I read your PL-report and it was such a nice idea to give Mr. Rickman that nice picture "Tamara meets Mr. Rickman", when I saw it on your page a few weeks ago, I thought, he would love it. ;-)))))))))
Lisa
Bavaria, - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:15:56 (PDT)

If I could decide between a walk through New York or a ride in a Limo through New York: I would choose the walk! Perhaps with Mr. Rickman besides me? ;-)) So, I walk through Munich and send you good vibrations... :-)))
Lisa
Bavaria, - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:13:21 (PDT)

Suzanne, thank you for your polite mail. I didn't have time on June 15 to meet you and the others, but my friends Linda and Melissa did. Do you remember them? About the videograms... I did not take these from you intentionally, and therefore, I am not ashamed. At least one of these (the TMD duet, I believe) I got from my Yahoo group files and the others were sent to me by fans. No offense was intended and I have given you full credit on my page now. Thank you for bringing it to my attention, and I regret that we couldn't meet in June. Perhaps in the future? -Tami
Tami <chapman.1@nd.edufoo>
Notre Dame, IN USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:11:21 (PDT)

Re: superiority. Yes, Alan does have his superior moments. It's particularly disgusting to think that he professes to be all Left-wing, but his own lifestyle is so very different. Have any of you ever looked up places he's been, like the Carlyle hotel in NYC, or even the island of Anguilla? At least he walks home now, as opposed to taking that limo.
Julia
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:07:54 (PDT)

Hey! Who ate my post!???????? LOL

As I was saying.......AR and Charlie were talking about Ang Lee and AR could not remember if AL was from Hong Kong or Taiwan , then CR said in a flippant way...."Oriental".... and AR responded "Well, I don't want to insult him..."LOL Jeez! We do go too far to cover our tracks! Just my 2 cents worth...still worship the ground he walks on.....however.....
Constance
USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:04:42 (PDT)

Kinda OT-- I went to see Bob Dylan last night; It's funny that I paid less to see him than I did to see PL. The highlight of the evening was when he sang Tangled Up In Blue, in nearly the same way Alan imitates him in TMD. It made me happy, what can I say?
Julia
Calgary, Canada - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:04:22 (PDT)

Mortianna: Ich wuensche dir einen guten Flug und viel Spass in New York. Ich beneide dich, aber ich fahr am Wochenende nach Italien (da soll es regnen *kreisch*) und begnuege mich mit meinem Hoerbuch... gesprochen von einer wundervollen Stimme... *schmacht* Dass du nicht sagen willst, woher du bist, versteh ich... es trieben sich wirklich seltsame Gestalten hier rum...
Lisa
Bavaria, - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:03:38 (PDT)

Stacie: I am from Lima and I was not offended at all my his attitude during the Conan interview. It was just a bit of fun....We are all SO sensitive nowadays... did you see the banter between AR and Charlie Rose about Ang Lee being
Constance
USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 09:58:17 (PDT)

Oh Stacie, no! I think, it was just because, he used the Yellow Pages to find a teacher and picked up Josè from Lima in California. If he picked up Lisa from Bavaria (Why didn´t you, Mr. Rickman????), he would have difficulties to understand my bavarian-english-slang either and the audience had their laugh, too. It wasn´t a bad meaning in it. And MARIALIS, you ARE right. The only reason to come to Conan O´Brian is to make the audience laugh. We have for that a Harald Schmidt Show and Harald Schmidt got a Grimme-Price for his show!!! http://www.sat1.de/haraldschmidt/
Lisa
Bavaria, - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 09:56:54 (PDT)

Hi Ladies, Attached is a photo of AR and Melissa taken at stage door of "PL" a few days ago. Enjoy :-)! AR & Melissa PL
Joanne
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 09:39:06 (PDT)

Anne from Manhattan, that was really helpful, and that sounds right. I think his point was the humorous problems with the accent, and it just seemed like he was putting Jose down with the way he started off. Okay ladies, retreat! Actually, there was no attack. It makes it easier to listen to another point of view when it's not contained in an attacking tone, so thanks everybody! Give my regards to Broadway,Anne, say hello to Herald Square...
Stacie
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 09:21:57 (PDT)

Sorry... I wouldn't "be" very surprised...
Marialis
Frrance - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 09:20:28 (PDT)

It seems to me that this show was very prepared by advance... I mean... it' isn't very informative... I wouldn't very surprised to learn that O'Brien and him have met before and decided what Alan would tell... It seems to my foreign eyes that this show just exists to make people laugh. They're looking obviously for funny anecdotes... Am I wrong ?
Marialis
France - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 09:18:44 (PDT)

Lisa, if you read my post again you'll see I didn't mention the part where Alan described how Jose's accent caused him difficulty. I didn't mention it because there is nothing wrong with that. Alan just had problems steering quickly enough due to Jose's accent. That was funny and not insulting. What bothered me was that he mentioned the teacher's name and country of origin in an arched tone, to the degree that he got snickers from the audience, (free chocolate!) Without that tone, the audience wouldn't have laughed. Read it again, that's what I said. Marialis, maybe he just thought it was funny in the way that you said. A foreign man teaching an Englishman to drive in the U.S. Alan doesn't seem like someone who would put someone down because of his nationality, but he does seem in general to have a bit of a superior attitude.
Stacie
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 09:04:49 (PDT)

note to self: must refrain from defending AR from unsoliticed troll attacks on this GB. Obviously some people are far too sensative.
BridgJns
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 08:55:29 (PDT)

Hey Suzanne! I just know when you get that pic page back up...it is going to be chock full of new AR goodies isn't it??? (giggle)
Claudia (who's only teasing)
GA US - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 08:55:11 (PDT)

*sigh* Thanks, Sara and Claudia.

Suzanne <Suz@mail.usa.comfoo>
TX USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 08:15:03 (PDT)

Sara, UK. Yes, the Conan interview AND The View are Suzanne's great creations. And I agree with you on giving credit where credit is due.
Claudia
GA US - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 08:07:22 (PDT)

Isn't that Conan O'Brien interview another one of Suzanne's videograms on Tami's site? With absolutely no credit! Shameful... Great pics, Stezi!
Sara
Kent, UK - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 08:02:03 (PDT)

M.S Rickman: I am glad you like the site. Don't be alarmed, there are many virusses on the net and somehow they also get to me. I hope to hear from you when you're back in "town"!
Stezi <stezi@wxs.nlfoo>
The Netherlands - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 06:35:33 (PDT)

Stacie, just a reaction because I said here not a long time ago that the driving licence anecdote made me laugh… I’m certainly the last one here capable to defend him on this point, because I’m not fluent in English… But I swear I’m not racist and I’ve got lot of respect for all the people, whatever their social state is… Don’t you think he just told that story because it’s not used for an English person to learn driving in USA with a Peruvian teacher ? And because he didn’t understand Jose because of his accent ? Anyway I confess you made me doubt. But you know even if you’re right, it doesn’t mean that he is racist or disdainful for immigrant (it would be the last straw for a man with his political background !) … Who has never been weak enough to make people around laughing with an “easy joke” : I don’t know if you have this expression in English. I think it’s not nasty. (My French friends always easily laugh at me and at my four tries before I got my Driving License ! But I don’t understand why ! It’s not funny !;o))

BtW – Wonderful poem. But I think I’ve already heard or read something like that. I can’t remember what exactly or when, but it reminds me something. Is it possible ? Have you been inspired by an author ?

Maxine – I noticed him 10 years ago but I fell in love with him few years later, I think it was in 1996 when I saw TMD for the second time. But well… don’t believe my last posts… There is a big part of joke in them. I love writing here because we’re allowed to be foolish and even childish. In fact I’m more like Cynthia : I wonder by now if the thing I prefer in Alan Rickman isn’t his GB ! ;-))

And … Sue, it wouldn’t be the same without you ! I’m really sad and I hope you will come back soon.
Marialis
France - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 06:25:11 (PDT)

Anne in Manhattan, I believe that D.O.C. stands for Department of Corrections, handily shortens to DoC!

Have just been watching the Conan O'Brien interview through Tami's site (that's TWO plugs for you today, Tami!), and it is even funnier to watch than to read. The transcript is beautifully done, but to watch it AR is hilarious in it! He looks particularly lovely, with great hair, lots of smiles (swoon!), and the anecdotes get me every time; I can almost recite the whole thing now!! (Almost - another few viewings should do it!!)
Catherine - again
Reading, England - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 06:02:29 (PDT)

Thank's Magda!
Claudia
GA US - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 06:00:21 (PDT)

Anne/Manhatten...making me think I might not be old enough to remember something has given me such a thrill...especially the day after my b'day! Thank you! And the thill only got better once I realized I didn't know what show you were talking about...but alas...I do remember some early 60's TV LOL

D.o.C....if you hadn't asked me, I could have told ya! Its on the tip of my brain at the moment..is someone's else's brain awake yet?
Claudia
GA US - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 05:59:25 (PDT)

DoC = Department of Corrections
Magda
Canada - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 05:53:58 (PDT)

What is a D.o.C., anyway?
Anne/Manhattan
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 05:32:54 (PDT)

Claudia - Maybe you're not old enough to remember Bill Dana's comedy routines and early-60s sitcom and his famous line, "My name ... Jose Jimenez." (Jose is also seen briefly in The Right Stuff - Alan Shepard liked to imitate him.) That was the first thing I thought of when I heard "His name was ... Jose."
Anne/Manhattan
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 05:30:31 (PDT)

Hey Catherine! I am thrilled to read a more positive statement on The January Man. Considering the problems in the film industry at that time, I think think it was good. I am with you on not enough of Ed. LOL But I think that about anything that doesn't have The Man in it 100% of the time!

The film opens up with a beautiful scene of WTC and sadly, it was cut from the Region 1 DVD...but my London mate assures me that it is in tact on the Region 2...so I will be soon ready of give up my Region 1!

Sue-UK....please come back. The D.o.C.'s are back.
Claudia
GA US - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 05:20:30 (PDT)

catherine - thought the same thing, and stezi has some wonderful pics of ed on her page (on one he looks really like hans gruber, with hair dishevelled and clothes good old hans wouldnt wear for his own funeral, though:-). thanks stezi (though i still can't load the dark harbor ones). pity!

lisa - will ich hier nicht unbedingt sagen, mail mir, wenn du willst, bin aber huet den letzten tag da, weil ich dann nach new york fliege*ächzkeuchstöhnröchel*
mortianna
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 05:20:09 (PDT)

Sue--please come back! The coast appears to be clear now.

Vera--oh my GOD! What a dangerous post to read first thing in the morning with a mouthful of coffee!

One of top ten most memorable/amusing moments in BC--when Slope learns of his new post, screwing up his face and spitting out, "PUDDINGDALE!?!".
Ali-Pat <sa.pe@earthlink.netfoo>
Dayton, OH USA - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 05:15:03 (PDT)

Er..."the AR"?!?!?
Well, he IS god-like, but perhaps I'm taking it a bit far! Feel free to ignore the "the"!
*disappears for more grammar lessons!*
Catherine - oops!!
Reading, England - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 05:07:10 (PDT)

Hi again!
So many posts, so little time!!
Still really enjoying reading all about the PL shows and stage door experiences. Particularly liked Tami's from a few days ago - she's got some great pictures on her site with him.

Seems to me during my dedicated reading of this GB that only intentionally inflammatory posts get deleted by our lovely D.O.C.tors - on whatever subject.
Troll warnings - sooooo funny! (insert one of Lori's speciality LOL graphics here!)

I think it's safe to say that attraction brings us all flocking here, attraction to the AR or his acting, and probably a chemistry combo of the two!! I know it is for me! His voice is what completely snared me, but he would not have come to my attention were he not such a good actor. And as for his oh-so-lovely smile...it really can improve a girl's day, dontcha know!

Did we all (UK based) enjoy The January Man the other evening? Taped it, and Ed is lovely, but sadly underused! The plot of the film was a good premise, but the makers unfortunately managed to muck it up, and it ended up being unintentionally laughable! Ed's hair is very cute, though, and I liked his use of the kitten!!

Anyway, I kow I have a tendency to ramble, so I shall try and curb myself...just remains for me to say that Sue, I shall miss your contributions to the GB. See y'll soon!
Catherine - we really shouldn't keep talking about admiring AR like it's a bad thing!! ;-)
Reading, England - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 05:02:44 (PDT)

@Mortianna: Nein, der tiefe See ist nix für den guten Edi *ggg*, welche Vorstellung *kicher*. Ich glaube nicht, dass die Mehrheit der Deutschen mit einem Bayern 4 Jahre zurecht kommen. Mir sind halt doch anders... Und? Woher bist jetzt genau?
Lisa
Bavaria, - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 04:57:11 (PDT)

I miss Sue from UK, she left because of the trolls. Well, I just wanted to say: Mr. Rickman is inaccessable and so it wouldn´t matter if he is this or that. But what he is: friendly and patient to his fans, he goes around after an exhausting evening of a theatreplay and signs all the stuff and poses for photos. He is a great actor and I´m sick of all the upsetting troll-stuff. And that "José from Lima"-stuff: My cousin is english like I´m german and she always laughs of my german accent which I think, it isn´t strong. If Josè has this accent, it just sounds funny to Mr. Rickman, like his german words in "Die Hard 1" sound funny to me. I love the english version, because I giggle when these terrorists "try" to sound german. There´s nothing wrong with and Mr. Rickman or I mean it in a rassist way.We don´t. Perhaps anybody meets me at any stage door - feel free to smile of my german/bavarian way of speaking english. ;-) I hope, I could make clear what I want to say... ;-)
Lisa
Bavaria, - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 04:51:24 (PDT)

There is a difference between giving one's own opinion (though speculating on his personal life is not encouraged on this GB) and being rude and hurtful to others. The latter is the reason your previous post was deleted, Sue. None of the D.o.C.s are homophobic.
Suz (D.o.C.)

To: Lisa (Bavaria) From: Sue Smith Which Sue do you want to hear from? If it's me, I've been deleted from this site, because I was honest. Only positive information about Alan Rickman can exist on this fan site. Speculation that A.R. is gay (what I think) is deemed negative (troll) stuff and is deleted from this site. Thus, this site is prejudice towards gays and narow minded in the material they select to keep. What's wrong with thinking that A.R. is gay? It's harmless and only an OPINION. Watch this message disappear at the end of this month.
Sue Smith
N.Y., U.S.A. - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 03:51:59 (PDT)

Ahhhh-smells nice in here! Thanks D.o.C. New Zealand branch (Claudia) for your house cleaning! Bummer on the puter crash, Suzanne, that can always be VERY nerve wracking and a frustrating thing to have to deal with.

Conan interview--it's so amazing at the different takes we come up with on things such as the Conan interview. I completely missed the possible ethnic humor with the driving instructor. My immediate vision when The Man said "Jose from Lima" was of two heavy accented (didn't really matter what kind of accent) people trying to communicate....which for me is a funny thing to watch....and at times funny to experience.

Regionfree/Mulitregional DVD players. I have had two experiences (out right buying a player and upgrading a cheaper player) and can offer a third option as well. Since this could easily become a long winded post--If anyone is interested--please email me privately and I will be glad to share my information and possibly assist.

VCDs--IMHO, when purchased can be a huge waste of money. I'd rather have a VHS copy of something over a purchased VCD
Claudia <Flipper828@aol.comfoo>
GA US - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 02:34:36 (PDT)

barchester

i didn't exactly like slope but found him irresistible. the scenes with the bishop's wife were hilarious and I found at the time highly erotical."your behaviour with women is ..." the way they were dancing around each other under the eyes opf that idiotic bishop...
but that was of course at the height of my besottedness, which i have left behind long ago *coughcough*, now that i even find myself thinking at reading some posts, "well, get it over with". but then again: i might be lying to myself:-)
plus, he is SLIMY but in a very erm becoming way. I won't go into details here. but i have been infatuated by the slimy git Snape, so perhaps i have just a peculiar liking not for chinamen or old boots but for slime? i read hp part 4 in german now, and understood it at last:-), and fell in love all over again with snape and waiting for part 5.

completely on-topic: SUE i'm gonna miss you!

lisa nein nicht köln, ich wollte nur sagen, dass ich verrückt bin, und herrn dr. edi könnt ihr da gerne behalten, meinetwegen innem tiefen see, aber ich hab nix gesagt;-)
mortianna <mortianna@gmx.netfoo>
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 01:13:56 (PDT)

Wondering if "thickers" is cockney rhyming slang-ie-butcher's hook=look, or "Ill take a butcher around"-how about it, anyone conversant?
a concerned citizen
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 01:03:16 (PDT)

I saw Barchester a couple of years ago in a bad bootleg copy which included a few minutes of blank tape towards the end. My favorite Slope moment was when Mrs. Proudie, angry about something he'd said or done, called him a "guttersnipe." I'd rented the thing knowing the character wasn't exactly a good guy but expecting to like him anyway (think Hans or the Sheriff). And I couldn't - Slope was definitely "slimy" if not necessarily "buglike" - until that moment, which summed up his life for me and made him almost sympathetic. A smart, ambitious young man to whom many of society's doors were closed because of his origins, dependent on superiors who cared nothing for him, looked down on him, and would drop him or turn on him the minute he ceased to be useful to them or stepped out of line. Not easy being Slope!

Stacie - I had the same initial reaction to "Jose from Lima" in the O'Brien interview. If memory serves, there was a slight pause after "Jose" and the audience laughed at the name. I thought, "Whoa, Alan!" It quickly became clear that the humor was in the fact of the driving instructor's accent and not his ethnicity - the story would have been just as funny if the man had had any other strong accent and I think would have gotten the same laugh in the same place if AR had said his name was Giuseppe or Wong or any other foreign name. An unfortunate opening, all the same.
Anne/Manhattan
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 00:38:29 (PDT)

Barbara t W. That was brilliant!
Inger
Gothenburg, Sweden - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 00:12:15 (PDT)

Imagine this: you're an actress, starring in a hit Broadway play, and throngs of admiring gay women want your autograph after every performance. You, the actress, are heterosexual. It would be a bit wiggy to deal with all these women who are physically attracted to you and just the thought of a liason with one of them makes you woozy. My point: if Alan is gay,(with all these Rima sightings I don't think he is), then he deserves even more credit for his loyalty to all his female fans at the stage door. He's there because he cares for and respects his fans. Even if he is a bit clinical about it sometimes. Someone posted that he was almost clinically professional in the way he signed autographs, and that phrase made the thought of Alan as a gynecologist pop into my head, would you please scoot down? Is that far enough, Dr. Rickman? That's fine, what brings you in today? I was hoping you'd issue an invitation to... a pic...nic...after the Pap Smear and all. Vera, if I issued invitations to every big-bodied, plump-nosed woman who asked for one I wouldn't have time for my work! Or my private life! Now go buy some Monistat and get out of here! (Tosses underwear at my fleeing butt).
Vera
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 22:48:59 (PDT)

In the Conan O'Brian interview, Alan tells the name of his driving teacher and his country of origin in a disparaging way. Later he corrects the insult, saying he was a wonderful teacher. I appreciated that. The teacher's name was Jose I think, from Peru. Alan gives this information in a tone that causes the audience to snicker. It's as if he's putting the man down, like he's some ignorant immigrant, and let's laugh at the thought of this guy teaching Alan how to drive. I'm sorry ladies! I love Alan, and I've been trying to ignore this, but there it is. I leave it out there and await your pleasingly plump, big-nosed bodies astride your gleaming white horses, gallantly riding over to slay me!
Stacie
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 22:10:39 (PDT)

Goliath, that doesn't answer the question at all. We don't know if that quote is accurate, we don't know if Lindsay's husband, if he did say that, is right. Accept the fact that we all accept not knowing. We will never know.
Stacie
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 21:59:24 (PDT)

Too, two, 2, too much.
Lily
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 18:42:04 (PDT)

Somewhat off-topic, Emma Fielding has a good supporting role in the "Investigator Lynley" series which began here on PBS with 2 episodes on Monday evening. She's very pretty and seductive, qualities which had to be toned way down in PL.

Also, "Object of Beauty" with John Malkovich, Andie MacDowell and Georgina Cates has been a regular cable offering of late. "Object.." was done in 1991 which, if memory serves me right, is 4 years before AABA. Cates looks incredibly different and is most likely in her early 30s in the 1991 film, so no need to be too concerned about her youthful innocence in the AABA role.

Too bad Rickman's interview was edited the way it was on Charlie Rose; yet, I'm happy they ran it again. (Really silly comment on my part: AR might be the first CR guest to appear with his shirt buttoned wrong! I don't think it was his tie which was askew! He had an extra bit of shirt and buttonhole up on one side of his neck and still managed to look terrific. Obviously, I've never been able to de-mystify this guy Rickman!)

I'll probably regret bring up the topic but here I go. I saw Michael Musto's comments in "The Voice" much earlier this summer, and kept them to myself. It's a rehash, or something, if the same remarks are appearing in an 8/26/02 column. I've also seen a few internet remarks about AR that go like this: "Oh, you mean I've been infatuated for so long with someone who is straight" after so many recent Rima sightings in NY. Moral of the story being, absolutely no one knows a thing about him in this regard. For what it's worth, IMHO, Rickman/Horton have been political people who've lived lives with left politics (here I go again) in the driver's seat. They've been unconventional and bohemian which confuses the living daylights out of anyone who pigeonholes them. And, I don't know a thing about them either! (Actually, I do know a thing or too about Bohemians and old lefties.)

I'm looking forward to all the stage door and PL play commentaries for these final days, except for the fact that they mean the end of the run. Please keep all of us who can't attend in mind. And, thanks for doing so. I second the request for questions about a possible Edward Albee role for AR. Wasn't Irene Worth another favorite actress of Albee's? "Little Alice," right? And, didn't we read this Spring that AR spoke at Irene Worth's funeral? None of this amounts to a connection, but does show I'm hoping Alan Rickman will make it back to the stage soon.
Lily
Chicago, IL - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 18:33:27 (PDT)

Ali-Pat, those "no region DVD's" from Hong Kong--at least the one I bought--was pretty poor quality. It was clearly a homemade disc made off the video. If you already have the video, it will be a step down.
Georgiana
Seattle - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 18:13:29 (PDT)

Kathy, you did not imagine it. The Barchester Chronicles did indeed air on PBS's Masterpiece Theatre about 20 years ago. I bought my treasured edition on VHS about five years ago, but I'm not sure it's still available except in the PAL format.

And thanks, Claudia, for taking care of "the situation!" I had a computer meltdown yesterday afternoon after installing a new program and just got it back from being repaired this evening, so thanks again!.

To everyone else: There's really no need to defend yourselves (or AR, for that matter) against those with adverse opinions and trolls. And responding only fuels the fire. Just ignore them.

Suzanne <Suz@mail.usa.comfoo>
TX USA - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 17:56:53 (PDT)

. . . However, Amazon UK says "out of print, limited availability". I must say, I do like the Euro cover pic better than the U.S. one.
Suze
NY - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 17:09:27 (PDT)

According to the The Internet Movie Database, Rasputin is available on dvd in Great Britain (Amazon UK) and Germany (Amazon DE). Nothing, alas, for us poor Yanks. *sniffle*
Suze
NY - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 17:05:41 (PDT)

Lovely sonnets, ladies.

Cindie
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 16:54:15 (PDT)

Suze, the Rasputin DVD did indeed exist - I own a copy which I bought in London's Tower records last year. However, in the last couple of months, it seemed to disappear out of the British DVD online stores - so its a pretty recent disappearance! Its also true that a chinese Video-CD keeps cropping up on the Auction sites, and I have only seen one VCD, but they are pretty terrible... Disappointing - I can't believe how many DVDs are being pulled from the market when its such a fledgling industry! We have had several major titles pulled in the last 3 months in Australia - which is very vexing! I should really pop off and buy SS before it disappears off the Australian shelves - lately, I can't even find Priscilla Queen of the Desert anymore - and born and bred Australian film! The movie companies really give the market no chance to find the movies at their own pace -its like we have to be psychic that we will need to buy all AR DVDs within 3 years of release - no rational given to the fact you may not stumble across AR until 5 or 10 years later. I am sure this applies to many actors/directors/actresses etc...
Sally
Sydney, Australia - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 16:48:22 (PDT)

Am I imagining this or did the Barchester Chronicles air at one time on PBS in America? Perhaps Masterpiece Theater, or maybe I remember it because our local PBS affliate often airs old Brit mysteries and comedies. I would love to see a "young' Rickman playing a cleric. Today I worked all afternoon putting my New York pictures into my "memories scrapbook".Now instead of just sitting in a drawer my Alan pics have their very own Theme pages. Plus, it makes them easier to show to everyone who happens to drop by! Kathy
Kathy <KBIlier@AOl.comfoo>
Lewiston, Me - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 16:41:04 (PDT)

There was a Rasputin DVD from England, but as far as I know, it's out of print. I saw it at Borders/Amazon.
Catherine
Chicago, - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 16:29:22 (PDT)

Regarding Rasputin on dvd - I wonder if it isn't actually a vcd (video compact disc). I have AABA on vcd - it's on 2 discs instead of 1 and lacks the "scene/chapter selection" feature of a dvd, but it plays in my dvd player.
I bought it after I had bought AABA on vhs - when the tape arrived, it was unwatchable - terrible video and audio quality. I suspect it was exposed to a magnetic field during shipping.
The vcd came in a cd jewel box inside a bizarre-looking slipcase. I didn't think it was the right movie, until I noticed a tiny little pic of Stella in one corner. The print on the slipcase is Japanese/Chinese (?? who knows). I got this vcd from an Amazon.com auction.
But anyway, I think if there were such a thing as a Rasputin dvd, Amazon or Deep Discount DVD or somebody would have it, and I haven't seen it.
Suze
NY - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 16:23:05 (PDT)

Well done, BtW! An excellent homage.
Suze
NY - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 16:06:58 (PDT)

Ali-Pat: I'm with ya! I'd LOVE to get a "all-region" DVD player to be able to see some of those Reg. 2 DVDs. I'd love to hear some suggestions from folks about a low-cost way of getting one.

Regarding a "Rasputin" DVD - that smells like a crock to me! I'm sure there is no such thing - he probably copied off of a VHS copy!
Rhea
AZ USA - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 16:06:12 (PDT)

KatH--BC on DVD? News 2 me! My copy is VHS. Dang, there is another DVD I have to buy and tuck away until I figure out how to play it. I am told you can "flash" your DVD player so that it will be transformed into an "all region" or "no region" player, but that voids the warranty and I am resisting the temptation. The other answer is to purchase an all region DVD player, usually from some website (stores in my town don't carry them, anyway). However, they are pretty darned $$$$$$$$$.

Anybody got another plan? My HIAF DVD awaits...

Also--what's with this guy from Hong Kong on EBay who is offering multiple copies of a "no-region" version of Rasputin on DVD? Is there really such a thing?
Ali-Pat <sa.pe@earthlink.netfoo>
Dayton, OH USA - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 15:45:45 (PDT)

Rhea--yes, and yes. They DID cut out some of the Alan interview, and I too wish Charlie had asked Alan some of the questions he asked Jeff Bridges. I think Charlie must have been having a bad night on June (9?) because he really was not together for the interview. It was shortly after the interview that he was admitted to the hospital for heart problems, so maybe that is the explanation. In any case, for those of you who saw the interview for the first time last night, you missed that charming "gremlin on my shoulder" part, the part where Charlie sweeps his interview questions off the table, and the part where Charlie asks Alan to critique his performance in S&S. This last is the most endearing thing I have seen Alan do in an interview--shaking his head and saying softly, "wrong, wrong..."
Ali-Pat <sa.pe@earthlink.netfoo>
Dayton, OH USA - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 15:38:22 (PDT)

I've done a bit of housekeeping. I appologise if anyone's post got deleted - but wouldn't have made sense without the troll posts it was referring to.

Play nice!
DOC - New Zealand Branch <claudia@paradise.net.nzfoo>
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 15:35:17 (PDT)

slightly OT: Claudia and Ali-Pat (and anyone else with the knowledge): I understand that Barchester Chronicles is only available in dvd format region 2. Do you have region 2 dvd players? If so, how do you find them? I have inquired at local stores, only to be met with blank stares from the 15 year old male employees who know nothing about other formats, or the world. Or do depend on the kindness of those overseas to make copies? Thanks.
Kat H <still old, fat and ugly with bad teethfoo>
Kent, OH USA - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 15:33:58 (PDT)

Thank you Barbara the W and Inger in Gothenburg for making me laugh at the same joke in two entirely different ways today.
FastFilm
Los Angeles, - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 14:26:22 (PDT)

OK, did anyone see the rerun of the CR interview that also saw it when it was originally aired? I was surprised/disappointed that they cut out some of it. They totally took out the portion when AR talks about his stage fright (which was one of my favorite parts) and a couple of other moments, too.

While watching CR interview Jeff Bridges (the first part of the hour) I kept saying to myself, "Why didn't he ask Alan that??" Questions like . . . which of his movies did he like making the best?, which is his favorite?, what inspires him to take a role? etc.
Rhea
AZ USA - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 14:25:35 (PDT)

"Alan Rickman's eyes are nothing like the sun,
Bronze is far more bright than his hair is
If grace is flight, why then, his wings are done
If hairs be wires, lead wires grow on his head
I have seen marble walls of white,
That straighter stand than his toothy smile
And there are performers more polite
Than Alan Rickman -- when mirabile.
I love to hear him speak, yet well I know
That music hath a far more pleasing sound
I grant I never saw a godling go
Alan Rickman, when he walks, treads on the ground

And yet, by heaven, I think Alan Rickman as rare
As any he belied by false compare.

Barbara the Wallpaperer <And that's how I feel about it!foo>
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 14:06:25 (PDT)

Link: Daily Telegiraffe's RADA news page.
Renie
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 13:13:45 (PDT)

Sad news, that, about Hugh Cruttwell, who was a wonderful RADA force. I've posted the article at the Daily Telegiraffe's RADA news page.
Renie
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 13:13:13 (PDT)

If Mr. Rickman is in a relationship with a woman or a man - fact is: We are all married or in a relationship with a beloved person.He is inaccessible for all of us. I miss respect for the cause of this guestbook here. And I´m sad that Sue left. Bye Sue, I hope I´ll read from you again.
Lisa
Bavaria, - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 13:10:13 (PDT)

Suzanne: The same warning to you. I won't be around for some time.(Please read my message to Stezi) *****
M.S. Rickman
London, England - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 12:53:01 (PDT)

Ahahahahahahah! As if we'd lend credence to a paper that has columns called "Dirty Porno", "Savage Love" and "Sex in the First Person". Too funny!
Harlii
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 12:50:47 (PDT)

Stezi: Thank you for your reply. I thought you'd written to New York. Also, I must warn you, considering the recent "troll attack": I won't be 'in town' for some time so if you receive email/s, they are from someone suffering from 'Polyjuice addiction' and definitely NOT me. I hope you read this message. Just a word of caution :-) *** P.S.: I've seen your page. Very Nice! ***
M. S. Rickman
London, England - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 12:27:54 (PDT)

To Kathie Lee et al.--AABA -- POSSIBLE AABA SPOILERS: -- I thought maybe "thickers" was something George used in mixing up the paint/varnish/whatever he used in painting scenery, maybe like stiffening in fabric (re the scene where Stella is brushing some solution on the backdrop?). Since he made the tea in his workroom with all his work supplies. The line reminded me of when I used to have tea with a scientist who kept his milk in the same fridge where he stored his plant specimens. I used to wonder if I was only imagining that the milk sometimes tasted funny! Maybe someone could ask AR outside the stage door and tell the rest of us.
Lee
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 12:19:42 (PDT)

I just saw an article that reminded me of "The View" the day AR, ET, PL, et al. were on it. I can't do links, but the article is at www.msnbc.com/news/799211.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1#BODY Might make for an interesting GB discussion.
Lee
US - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:54:33 (PDT)

Michael Musto's column in the Village Voice Aug 26, 2002 should answer the question once and for all, eh?

'The new Private Lives is a wonderfully melancholy yet acidly funny take, from Alan Rickman's almost-fourth-wall-breaking entrance to the biting and choking finale. At the opening-night party, Lindsay Duncan's husband remarked to a Times reporter that he's not worried about wifey being with Rickman all the time because "he's gay"—a crack that got the whole room buzzing. Scores of cognoscenti lined up to tell me, "No, he's straight, married, and devoted"—and Larry King wasn't one of them.'
Goliath
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:44:14 (PDT)

I'm sick to death of trolls, rude replies to trolls and rude comments about rude replies etc etc ad infinitum.
I have been visiting these pages for almost 2 years and come here for news and info. about a much-loved actor and to have a bit of fun, but I think shall say ta-ta for now. I'll drop by in a couple of months and see how it's going. Bye.
Sue
England - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:42:04 (PDT)

Just wanted to let everybody know that the Charlie Rose interview was indeed a repeat.
Sabine
GA USA - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:35:04 (PDT)

To the men who posted about Alan being gay...we know he's had a long-term relationship with a woman. Any other interests he may have we will never know and we don't care. Why would that stop us from admiring him? I'm sure you admire some heterosexual males. One can always dream, and isn't that a hallmark of the guestbookers? We are dreamers. To the person who posted about being in love with ten-years-ago-Alan. I think he was, like most people, better looking when he was younger. I think he was more than better looking, I think he was heartbreakingly beautiful. Now I find him handsome, and still extremely charismatic. His full smile is still a thrilling experience. In Dogma, he doesn't look so good. They must have wanted him to look that way, lighted him unflatteringly, didn't make him up to minimize undereye bags, etc. Alan was brave to allow that. They say he's very appearance conscious, but art must be more important to him.
Stacie
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:28:31 (PDT)

My mistress' waist's
less hornet than a bumblebee.
I think a Barbienose
just wouldn't fit her face.
Her charming smile
makes toothpaste adverticers flee
and yet on her
my whole devotion lays.

Well, the original is much better... My english isn't good enough especially compared with Shakespeare (but that would be a false compare.;))
Inger
Gothenburg, Sweden - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:27:39 (PDT)

Slightly OT, but not by miles - Hugh Cruttwell, AR's principal at RADA, has died; was also Geraldine McEwan's husband (of BC, RHPOT fame)A quote from AR in today's Telegraph reads : "He had an enormous presence, and he was utterly passionate about his job and about the students. He was completely unsentimental, and absolutely truthful. Even when he was telling you how terrible you were, he would be encouraging. His students became his friends in later life."
Quite an influence on AR I would have imagined.

Also pleased to hear that others on here laugh out loud at BC with Slope - he is SO good at that! The library copy I keep borrowing must be fairly worn out by now!
Sue
Lincoln, UK - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:20:30 (PDT)

Maxine was close enough. It was just one year...my goodess! I'm sure The Man appreciates an age error in his favor just as much as anyone else! I for one REALLY appreciates it! LOL
Claudia
GA US - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:18:54 (PDT)

Of course, I don't mean "live" television, but broadcast television--in contrast to my VCR and DVD!
R
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:57:07 (PDT)

Wonderful to see him on live television, and I hope the CRose repeat will spur attendance for the last shows of Private Lives. It's good to keep him in the minds of people who cast upcoming projects, besides giving us a treat.

For those of you who make theatre plans ahead of time, Michael Grandage (who directed the awesome Branagh in Richard III this past year) has taken over the Donmar and offers this:

5th December 2002 - 15th February 2003
The Vortex
by Noel Coward
Directed by Michael Grandage
Booking opens Monday 23th September 2002
Press Night Tuesday 10th December 2002

besides some Sondheim (Pacific Overtures) Albert Camus' Caligula (never knew about that one!) and one other production which escapes me . . . (check the link).

To those of you attending the last PL performances--we wish we were there!

Renie
Maybe someone would aks him abut the Virginia Woolf project? , - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:54:59 (PDT)

Three cheers for Jizel !!! "People without interesting noses lack character." -Quote I love you point. I'll probably hang it above my mirror. :^)
Smurf-mom
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:54:53 (PDT)

Well, I was looking for info to answer Julia's question and found this article which some of you may have already read, but it's new to me. A TSFJG Review The article states that Angela is Donald's daughter.
Harlii <Glad to be of *some* use after all!foo>
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:54:44 (PDT)

Question: Are Donald Pleasance and Angela Pleasance (both in BC) related/married?
Julia
Calgary, Canada - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:40:33 (PDT)

I hope you people are correct in your assumption that Alan Rickman writes back: I've written to A.R. 2 months ago, to all 3 agents of his - each complimentary letter accompanied by my artwork. I adore him since I first saw him for the first time in the Harry Potter movie, where he looks 45 yrs. old due to makeup and a black wig. I saw the rest of his movies and "Mesmer" remains my favourite because of A.R.'s younger looks and acts of passion. That's the problem: I'm lost in the past - I am in love with his younger looks (10 years ago). In this world of 6 billion people, can there be a look a like of A.R. as he looked 10 years ago? Keep on dreaming... I wish I heard of him then. How odd that the H.P. movie hooked me to A.R., when in reality he looks and is older, at 56 years of age. Check him out in "Blow Dry" and "Dark Harbor" - the actual A.R. (no makeup or wig) - still a handsome man, great actor with the most sensual lips and voice. To: Marialis (France) - how long have you been obsessed with A.R., if you don't mind me asking. Me? A mere 10 months... My e-mail: maxineshare46@hotmail -Maxine Share
Maxine Share <maxineshare46@hotmailfoo>
Toronto, Canada - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:39:02 (PDT)

Thanks Ali-Pat and Harlii! I just love being able to share thoughts in a civil manner!

I had to laugh at the fact that Harlii wanted to slap the Bishop. I have watched Clive Swift in a little Britcom called "Keeping Up Appearances" for a long time now and the show is sooo funny. So when I saw him as the Bishop, all I could see was the hilarity in his Bishop performance.
Claudia
GA US - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:37:08 (PDT)

Marialis, you are really cute! ;-))) I loughed, reading your try to save others from this addiction. But there are many peoples (most of them curious women), who want to see, what is so dangerous, than they think, they could stop whenever they want... but it´s to late, they are addicted and there will be no help... *gggggggggggggggg*
Lisa
Bavaria, - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:31:54 (PDT)

Well, I agree with both of you. LOL I agree with you Claudia in that I didn't find Obadiah Slope slimy or anything, just aggressive, an over-achiever, brown-noser, a bootlicker if you will. But I understand Ali-Pat's point as well. Many times we do refer to people like Slope as slimy, sneaky, back-stabbing, etc. The term I like to use is "crabs in a barrel". Ahahahah! The people I wanted to slap were the Bishop and his wife...I can see a cleric like Slope being ingratiating for whatever his reasons, but the backbone-less Bishop and his overbearing, bossy ass wife were just too much to swallow. How my hand ached to slap her face.

One interesting thing about Barchester Chronicles is that my mother, who is usually my partner in crime, so to speak, when it comes to British films, refused to watch it! She called it dumb! She turned her back on the TV and played Solitaire, while my father, whom I've mentioned here before regarding his absolute disdain for Alan's very existence, watched both tapes and LOVED it! We both felt that we recognized the different characters in certain church members we know.

I am going to try and get some copies made (NTSC) to share and will let everyone know when they're done and how many I have...it's really an excellent film...one of the best BBC productions I've seen in a while...
Harlii
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:02:08 (PDT)

Claudia, RE the Slope character. He strikes me as slimy (oooo, bad mental image there) in that his personality is so slippery, so oily ("oleaginous" the word one reviewer used). And his body movements are very insect-like. Just watch him cross the courtyard and skitter into the bushes to hide. He resembles nothing so much as a giant cockroach! But I think the Archdeacon has the best description of him--The Bestial Slope. Ha! Ha-Ha!

But he is Alan, and deep down under his buggy Slope skin I do find him adorable.

Glad to find so many fans of this series--it is well worth the $$$ and effort to find.
Ali-Pat <sa.pe@earthlink.netfoo>
Dayton, OH USA - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 08:49:39 (PDT)

Yes Mortianna and Lisa : I know, it’s too late for me too. So I have made a video to alert the youngest and I will send it to different French channels… This is what I say in it : “Hello I’m Marialis and I’m Rickman addicted. I begun just to do like others…. To make the experience. Everybody was saying that he was a wonderful actor… so I wanted to make up my mind… If I have imagined once that 10 years later I would be stooped so low… Gosh… So listen to me… I have a message for the youngest… and for their parents… a political and extraterrestrial conspiracy give a big power to that man… Now that he plays Snape in Harry Potter’s movies…. ALL a generation of innocent children is in danger. Be careful… Please listen to me… For me it’s to late…not for you.” It’s tough isn’t it…?
Marialis <just saw a man with a cigarette foo>
France - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 07:51:29