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(July 2003)

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To Lee: Oh dear! If I could only stop them from an untimely death, I'd do it. Coincidentally, we're having a storm like that right now... I wonder...
Les
CA, USA - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 09:52:10 PM

what's lurex? anyone?
sceezer
- Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 09:18:26 PM

Is everyone able to first read the previous day's posts, or even further back. Sometimes someone will say that they can not remember who posted what, why don't they just go back and find out? My computer takes me back in seconds when I need to refer to a previous comment. If you don't get the background the posts sure can be confusing!
Merry Anne
- Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 08:14:15 PM

Thank you so much, Carole, Canada!
Joan Pa USA
- Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 08:04:14 PM

I can't get the HTML page right now (to copy and paste the cut) so I'll just put in the URL - Here's some POA pics:

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/28985/multimedia
Chandra
NC, - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 06:54:20 PM


I'm just plain "Crude", Les. Not Miss, nor Mrs., not even Ms. I can't be crude on this guestbook, though. Deputies of Courtesy (DoC) will get me. See you in the Downtime Bar, unless the Department of Corrections delete it. ha,ha,. We're still waiting for more AR characters to show up, Snape's there already!
Crude
- Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 05:22:16 PM

To very sad fan: I searched everywhere on the internet and I can't find it. I didn't see the trailer either, I was on vacation last week! sob!

(Welcome back Joan!)
Carole
Canada - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 05:08:44 PM


Just checked up on TWBD and found an author's update. It can be found at: http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=1128582&chapter=35
Carolyn, dear Carolyn
CO, uSA - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 05:07:43 PM

To Loesje: Yes, there are 3 'Die Hard' films. #1 with Mr. Rickman, #2 w/ U.S. troops gone bad in Washington, D.C., and #3 picks up w/ "Hans's" brother out for revenge in New York.

To Joan: Sorry about that! Something "Crude" said made me think otherwise.

Ok Everyone: add an "s" to my postings of " 'Mr_.' Crude," and continue. Will be back in 4hrs. Take care and happy posting :-)
Les , <Lompocian1982@go.comfoo>
CA, USA - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 05:03:57 PM


Les, please note: "Crude" is a female, not a Mister, nor a lady, but a woman!
Joan
Pa, USA - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 04:40:45 PM

Great book! Keep up the good work.
John Kennedy , <owner-nolist-bounces@topsites.usfoo>
- Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 03:18:38 PM

Les, CA, what do you mean by Die Hard 3? , is there a Die Hard 2 aswell? I think he's speaking German very good in DH he has just a little accent, love that man
loesje
netherlands - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 02:52:35 PM

AHHHHH!!! Why was the Love Actually trailer taken off that site....?!!! ::cries:: Does anyone know if it's been posted anywhere else or why it was taken down??!!
verryyyyy sad fan
- Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 02:19:33 PM

In 'Die Hard 3,' They only have Mr. Rickman as a "flash-back" from the first film, as he's falling out the 30th floor window. I was very disappointed in finding that out! Hope you're having a good day :-)
Les, CA, USA , <Lompocian1982@go.comfoo>
now in Downtime Bar, Number PG-13, Nasty Habits Lane (or so Mr. Crude has told me) - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 12:14:33 PM

Well, I must admit that I did not know who Alan Rickman was until I saw him in HP 1.When i first saw him, i knew it was love at first sight. i've been in love ever since. Can anyone tell me where i can write to get a picture of him?
Aeryn Roberts , <professor_leslie_snape@yahoo.comfoo>
Billings, Montana, USA - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 12:05:31 PM

I have a question.I noticed that very few of you are talking about DH with a vengeance is that because AR has not played much in it, or doesn't he play in it at all?
loesje
netherlands - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 11:36:29 AM

One of my favourite books is Inferno by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. It's a humourous look at Dante Alighieri's Inferno. It would also make a great movie starring Alan (of course) and Robbie Coltrane. Briefly, it's about a drunk sci-fi writer, Allen Carpentier (Alan) who falls out of a window at a convention while trying to impress his fans. Only he dies when he hits the ground unlike Hans. Allen wakes up in the Vestibule of Hell confined inside a jar and is freed by Benito (Coltrane) who offers to guide him throught the different levels of hell. They travel thru the Virtuous Pagans, Gluttons, Hoarders and Wasters, Heretics, Lawyers, and a few other sins not thought of by Dante. It's a very lively read, one of those books I can't put down tho I've read it a million times at least.

Dear Alan, if you can get your hands on this book, please do so and then make a movie out of it and then star in it. In between breathing in the fragrance at my throat, you could consider doing something by Edgar Allan Poe or maybe even portraying Poe himself and his short,miserable life. And in your other spare time you can contemplate how really lucky you are that there is a whole ocean between us. Yours, Sandy.
Sandy
Canada - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 10:46:26 AM


Coronado High School (Scottsdale, AZ) was the school set in the original "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure" & yes, Metrocenter Mall hosted some of the festivities. An early color, B-grade Western was filmed here, in the Verde Valley. Famous line: Whatever suits you tickles me plum to death. Wish someone would think of a realistic "sagebrush" Western adventure, starring a "chocolate voice" with tea-colored eyes and flaxen-blond hair . . ..
Ann W
AZ, USA - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 10:41:04 AM

sorry, i meant her second marriage.
loesje
netherlands - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 06:15:55 AM

It's amazing how you people get to know so many things about AR , i read an article in one of our dutch newspapers about Emma Thompson being married for the second time to Greg Wise, it says the two of them got to know each other at the set of S&S and that Kate Winslet and her husband Sam Mendes were unable to come, but nothing about our man sniff
loesje
netherlands - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 06:12:09 AM

I went to the Love Actually trailer links some of you posted, and they all come up as error pages... Am I doing something wrong? Does anyone know another link I could use?
amanda
- Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 05:59:52 AM

sonoma, Alexis yell's :"David ,please stop, leave him alone". I really love that film, he's so evil in it I love him playing the villain.
loesje
netherlands - Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 03:46:12 AM

Charles Dance mentioned Alan Rickman last night on Graham Norton.
He was saying how he got the script for The Last Action Hero, he was flicking through it trying to find his entrance. He finds the page. It reads. "The door opens and there stands ...... Alan Rickman" It appeares He Who Speaks was offered the role before him, and they gave Mr Dance the older script by mistake. (AR must have turned it down because it was a typecasting role) Anyway, Charles Dance got a t-shirt printed which said 'Cheaper Than Alan Rickman' and wore it around the set, and apparently there were all these executives getting worried and saying 'Gee, do you think we gave him the wrong script?' As he was walking around with this t-shirt on, he got a phone call, and a voice said "I gather you've been walking around with a t-shirt with my name on it."
That just cracked me up.
Jizel
- Thursday, July 31st 2003 - 02:48:25 AM

PS: Pam H., thanks for the "Baking with Snape" story on Yahoo. Picturing Snape in an apron reminds me of the workers in Starbucks! I've had Rum Ball cookies before, and they are soooo good, but I like Nutmeg Logs better. I'm hoping to go elderberry picking in a couple of weeks myself. Have fun with your blueberries! :-)
Les
CA, USA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 11:37:25 PM

Dear Lee,

Your Wednesday's post of "True Love's Curse" was very suspenseful; I had to "defrost" my computer screen a couple of times. (I find Cinch does the trick.) All I ask is that you please, please, pleeease don't let Severus and Gwenevere do anything that would lead to their death(s). Otherwise, keep up the good work! Good night, and hope to post another time.
Les , <Lompocian1982@go.comfoo>
California, USA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 11:05:33 PM


Pam H. Thanks for your welcome. I've been in the "Downtime Bar". Rough crowd in there! Can't repeat in this GB. I'm not entirely all right, but I can handle my troubles. I'm doing everything I can to help myself, so please don't worry.

The people here are especially sensitive to others' pain, which is probably why we are fans of AR. He usually plays characters that suffer so heartbreakingly. I think maybe that brings out our compassion, something to be proud of.
Joan
Pa, USA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 09:08:05 PM


Hi Joan. Welcome back-we all really missed you and am glad you are feeling better...please continue to post now and then just to let us know you are okay. We are here for you. Have a great evening, Pam
Pam H.
Massachusetts, USA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 08:53:31 PM

EVERYBODY with their words of encouragement and warm thoughts I shall remember and be grateful for a very long time. What had me so tearful was exactly what I wrote in my post on July 20.All the acceptance and advice has led me to have faith enough that when I do meet Alan Rickman, it seems more likely now that he'll be just as friendly because he has fans like all of you!
Joan
Pa, USA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 07:27:21 PM

I am quoting directly from "Rickman's Worth, Elle Feb, 1992" when AR says that "if I had children I would let them wear Gold and Pink Lurex, I know my friends would not believe this, but it is true!". This is one of those really good interviews and well worth reading in Claire's AR Archives. Thanks also to Claire for giving us such a good READ!! Bye.PS cannot wait for POA!!! My Favourite.
Barbara the Australian , <bpac350@hotmail.comfoo>
Gold Coast, Australia - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 06:30:21 PM

Hi everyone, What a beautiful day! My son and I went Blueberry picking and had a blast. I found a funny story I thought some of you might like to read called Baking with Snape. I found it on Yahoo and believe the site is under fanfiction. It's a riot about how Snape is the one left of all the teachers to have to bake cookies (of all things) and was submitted by Joanne. Enjoy-I thought it was a cute little story (he sort of gets carried away with the rum balls!!!) Have a good one Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 06:29:51 PM

too true rita.
sceezer
- Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 06:27:51 PM

To Ali-Pat, Kimberly, and Chandra: Thanks for the website postings!

To Sue: Thanks for the pictures to the upcoming "Harry Potter" movie. This third novel is my favorite so far.

To Witch Lisa: I'd love to see another "Die Hard" film, but I sure hope Britney Spears won't be cast for anything! I like the "Hans coming back" idea much better.

AR's Fan: If Mr. Rickman decided to follow me around, I'd be thrilled to know I made a "new friend." ;-)

If any of you which to chat with me, feel free to do so; I don't bite. Take care and hope to post another day!
Les , <Lompocian1982@go.comfoo>
California, USA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 05:14:26 PM


sonoma, i'll have to surch for that line, but here it is night and my husband and son and daughters want to get some sleep , so i will post the text to you tomorrow o.k.
loesje
netherlands - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 04:18:04 PM

Post deleted.
Please refer to the second item of #13 of the FAQ.
Suz (D.o.C.)
- Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 04:16:13 PM

If AR had children of his own, what kind of disciplinarian do you suppose he would be?
Rita
- Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 03:59:47 PM

If any of those things happen, AR's fan, my advice is this: Enjoy it fully while you can, and tell yourself repeatedly that you will remember every detail... after you've woken up.
Christine
USA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 02:37:00 PM

Sandy: Yes, Hans survived but was badly injured. I've got him tied down in my guest room and if he doesn't quit picking the lock with hairpins I might have to "adjust" his shin bones.

AR fan: Please don't do those things. The universe would turn inside out and that could be *so* messy.
Carolyn, dear Carolyn
CO, uSA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 02:32:23 PM


I would gently smile and say "I do have a Private Life, you know" Serve him right, wouldn't it!!!
ACC
- Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 01:44:00 PM

Stupid Idea? What happens if you send a autographed photo of yourself to Alan Rickman? Will he develope a crush on you? Will he wait outside your work site to take your picture? If he asks for a hug, do you have to? What if he sends you a racy letter of how much he loves you? If he shows you the web site he created for you, what do you say? What if he sniffs your neck and insists you tell him what perfume you're wearing so he can get Rima to use it? If he asks a personal question, will you tell him the truth?
AR's fan
- Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 01:27:20 PM

Here's the link to where I read about problems with "Mesmer"

Alan Rickman Biography
Chandra
NC, - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 01:18:27 PM


Re: Mesmer: I'm not sure it's a mustache, it could be mud on his face. Mesmer (the movie itself) is a bit of a mess. It seems choppy and unfinished. There's little on the DVD but the film, no captioning either - I use captioning at night sometimes so I can understand the dialog with the TV volume low. The ending is amazingly abrupt and so is the transition between his exile from Vienna (or is it Salzburg) and Paris -- it seems like there should have been some story there, seeing the level of detail in the film as a whole but wham-bam a few years have passed and Dr. Mesmer's in private practice in Paris - swooning the wealthy ladies for a living. There was some sort of legal tussle with the release of this film - something on the articles page..
Chandra
NC, - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 12:58:36 PM

Reflecting upon the negative energy of the previous months, perhaps some of those posters thought this was not the "arguestbook", but the arguesbook?!
Rita
- Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 12:57:22 PM

loesje, I always like seeing how movies are translated into other languages. It's interesting to see the small differences from the original language dialogue. Just out of curiosity, on the German dvd, what does Alexis yell at David when he's running out of that shed near the end of the movie to chase the young man?

Ali-Pat, I never noticed that about the Mesmer DVD! But it must be Mesmer just after being ousted--with mud on his face?
sonoma
usa - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 11:31:02 AM


"Hans surviving? Could be! Perhaps he will be back for Die Hard IV (Die Hardest?--check the IMDB)."

Good night, I hope not. Isn't Britney Spears supposed to star in it with Willis as his daughter? Love Alan, enjoy some of Willis' action flicks -- don't see myself sitting through 2 hours with her....Still haven't watched Quigley Down Under because of the costars!
witch lisa
- Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 11:27:57 AM

I loved Alan in Harry Potter, both of them, and all the movies with him in them. he is so talented and cool.
Eliazbeth , <sgt_kewl58@hotmail.comfoo>
kingston, I don't live in a state, i live somewhere in Ontario, Canada - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 11:04:19 AM

There is a similar HPPOA article in the current Newsweek, but with all different photos (none of Snape, but one of Black and Lupin and one of Dumbledore).

Hans surviving? Could be! Perhaps he will be back for Die Hard IV (Die Hardest?--check the IMDB).

And now for a question. I watched Mesmer last night (yes, I am only up to the Ms), and as I was putting away the DVD, I took a hard look at the photo inside the front cover. It is a stretched out photo of a man carrying what looks like Mesmer's trunk, but I don't think the man is Mesmer. That is, unless Mesmer is channeling Jamie--I detect a dark, full moustache. Does anyone think it is Mesmer? If it isn't Mesmer, who is it? And since this scene does not appear in the film, where might it fit in to the story? And finally, if the scene has been cut from the film, and the fellow carrying the trunk is not Mesmer, then why the heck did they put this photo on the DVD?
ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 10:33:02 AM


All hippies are old hippies. ;) BTW, does anyone actually see Hans hit the ground after he falls out of the window? His fall could've been broken by the trees, he could've been cushioned by the shrubbery and he could've rolled gently into the soft mud of the flowerbeds. He could've.
The Stones are in Toronto today for a SARSfest. I dislike crowds and the carnival atmosphere so am not there. Getting old as my mother but I'm in good company. Peace and Love.
Sandy
Island of the Fay, Canada - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 08:51:44 AM

There was a full page spread on the filming of POA in the Evening Standard today. It is mainly about the kids. It did say Sir Michael Gambon will portray the headmaster as an old hippy.
It also says "It is reported that the next film will be directed by a Briton - Mike Newell, the man behind Four weddings and a Funeral and who produced I captured the castle, which was released earlier this year." Of course, we know him as director of AABA.
here are the 2 pix from the article.POA1, POA2, POA3
sue
england - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 07:00:33 AM

BTW thank's for the tip
loesje
netherlands - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 06:22:08 AM

mortianna, about the dark harbor film: i'll try to translate it, alexis says to him "do you think we'll make it? " he answers "don't you worry'"she"don't start racing" he: i'm not racing,i only want us to rather",she: and i want to stay alive", he: so then with 65 miles on a provincial road we hardly be like bonny and clyde" she:"even when we should get an accident we'll hardly be like bonny and clyde", he:"i'd rather have you keep your eyes open",and while she's reading a magazin, he sleps it out of her hands saying"darling ,i mean that serously, i need your help, i don't want to get stuck here in the swamp(or something like this)she:"david , please don't blame me,while you have 2 hours delay"then after he honks the horn;she"what is in fact the matter with you?"he: "nothing at all darling , look at the road",she:"drive slowlyer", he: "what's the mattter" andthen she says "stop" this is a free translation of the beginning of the film, i hope you can understand it.
loesje
netherlands - Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 06:19:23 AM

loesje, amazon.de has the dark harbor dvd, and it has the English version, too. Plus a explanation by the film maker what it all meant. And yes, it's much better with HIS (I dared, I dared!) voice, even if you can't understand him in the beginning, trying to speak American, and you don't understand the boy at all (well I don't, actually).
mortianna
- Wednesday, July 30th 2003 - 04:41:51 AM

vee gates mein liebe? schreiben miche bitte. was sagt du? ya? zer gute. :) :)
robroy
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 10:07:15 PM

Kimberly - What a lovely, lovely story! ("Stage Door O'Toole") Thanks for posting the link.
Anne/Manhattan
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 09:21:55 PM

Dearest Colonel Chris (wink) Brandon. I mean where do the other GBers currently live? Is your town the place where the Statue had a Tango or where the African Queen floated by?. I did mean it a a postcard of movie sites from the town(s) where GBers(you) live - posting request. I loved the post card post recently (Sue) and I wanted to know if people had more available?
Janine who lives in the place that was once said a good place to film the end of the world lol
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 08:39:28 PM

Here's a wonderful little stage door story I came across. The person is waiting to meet Peter O'Toole, but there's a brief Alan Rickman mention, as well.

Stage Door O'Toole
Kimberly
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 08:12:37 PM


My Dearest Janine, How do you mean, "Where do the others lived...has it been immortalised on film". Explain it to the old Colonel and perhaps I can whisper the answer you're looking for in your ear...I promise to tell you if I know! I am enchanted by your extraordinary "down under" use of words although I am helpless at times as to their meaning. Forgive my confusion!
Colonel Chris (wink) Brandon
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 07:49:08 PM

My what an interesting site you found Amelie.
Judy
Australia - Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 06:22:58 PM

opps - college
Janine
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 06:11:51 PM

Did Joan travel to Oz as Quigley Down Under will be on Optus Movie Extra Channel 4 at 6.25 p.m. today Wednesday 30th July. I just watched the Heartbreak Kid filmed at my old High Schoool, lastly named Prahran Secondary Colege. Now leveled and a park. There are may things filmed in Melbourne. Not always international or like Queen of the Damed, noticably from Melbourne. Where in the world do others lived. Has it been immortalisd on Film? Do tell! Even better if it is AR related. Parts of QDU were filmed in country Victoria, Warnambool, 3 hrs from me.
Janine
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 06:11:05 PM

It is cold outside (Melbourne winter) yet the latest Snape story is steaming up my glasses ..thanks Lee
Janine
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 05:50:18 PM

Joan's in the Downttime Bar watching "Quigley Down Under".
Someone who REALLY knows!
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 05:00:28 PM

hi, you all, this is loesje from the netherlands, i,ve read and read an d read this GB over and over again and i'm very impressed that there are so many fans from all over the world, i really appreciate it, here in holland there are just a few fans i suppose, but that doesn't matter , because i can read lots of things about him here, you know i would like to have the opportunity to meet him , but thoug london isn't far away from here, i don't dare to fly. so there are very little opportunities to see him in the flesh, my favorite movies of ar are : s&s, dark harbor. (i really loved that one) GQ , DH dogma and RHPoT. , could anyone tell me if there's a dark harbor dvd for sale in the netherlands? i only saw it in the german version, and so i couldn't here his remarkeble voice, well , i have to go now ,bye bye
loesje
netherlands - Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 02:28:27 PM

Sue, thanks so much for the information. I don't know if I can get on the river again (had a bad experience years ago trying to satisfy a "Three Men in a Boat" urge) but I'll definitely look into that bridge and Cliveden.

Ali-Pat, the site just gets better and better! I am very grateful to you, Carolyn, dear Carolyn and the painkillers!
sonoma
usa - Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 01:39:17 PM


Oh Ali-Pat, I am so honored! Thank you.
Carolyn, dear Carolyn
CO, uSA - Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 01:17:06 PM

This is especially for Carolyn, Dear Carolyn who nudged me into working on it. And I still blame the pain medication I took this weekend for any mistakes and sheer goofiness that shows up on some of the pages. But anyway--have fun, y'all, with Listing Slightly.
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 11:57:12 AM

Would be really interesting to hear both versions of the HP audio tapes, which version does Oz/NZ get? Are there any examples of Jim Dale available on the web anywhere, must try a Google search. Stephen Fry is considered definitive with everyone I know in the UK, I suppose it's what you're used to. Very difficult to get reading aloud right, just listened to Paddington Bear read by author Michael Bond on a trip to Wales over the weekend ... BORING! Especially when compared with Return of the Native, my summer respite, grab half an hour to listen when the kids are driving me crazy, ok so the subject matter is a little different, but I would have thought Thomas Hardy could easily be boring and isn't, while Paddington should be nigh on impossible to mess up.
Juliet
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 10:24:53 AM

I found this on http://www.film.su.se/anita/l-p.html "I touched Alan!': The Role of Touch in Female Fans' Reception of Male Stars One of the ubiquitous images capturing the phenomenon of stardom is a male star surrounded by a myriad of outstretched arms of female fans wanting to touch him. It is surprising that this aspect has never been systematically addressed in analyses of stardom. In my paper, I would like to deal with the role of touch in female fans' reception of male stars, using British cult-star Alan Rickman and one of his Internet fan groups, the Rickmaniacs, as an example." If you want to read the whole abstract go to the url above and scroll down to "I touched Alan" Interesting, isn't it? The other articles as well.
Amelie
- Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 10:08:52 AM

I have the Jim Dale version of the HP tapes and I have to say they are absolutely brilliant. He really gets into character and sounds especially like Snape. Don't knock them without trying them.
Gissing's Girl
UK - Tuesday, July 29th 2003 - 01:07:18 AM

Emma Fielding (Sibyl in PL) will be doing Measure for Measure at the RSC starting August 9, ending November 4 (only 16 performances total, though - two or three other other plays running at the same time). She's in Cymbeline later in the season. I didn't see any other names I recognized in either cast.

Penny S. - Thanks for the review link. I'm going in October.
Anne/Manhattan
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 11:40:22 PM


I don't know what I have to do with Sting, Robert Downey Jr. or Marisa Tomei, but I do know that I am smooth, creamy and delicious.
AR's flan
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 10:12:02 PM

wa? huh? duh!
poindexter
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 09:38:33 PM

1. Happened to watch "Ally McBeal" and saw Robert Downey, Jr., who I loved in the movie "Only You" with Marisa Tomei.
2. Saw "Sting" on "Ally McBeal", became a Sting fan.
3. Read in a magazine that Sting took his 11 year old daughter to see "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone", so I saw it out of curiosity.
4. Saw Alan Rickman as Snape and guess what?!


AR's fan
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 09:31:39 PM


AR loves his fan mail. Use the UK address as shown on the FAQ page of this site. Rima's address is for politics only...so if you want to send AR a letter, write to his agent and they will pass the letter on. At this time, he is so busy that they have asked his fans not to request autographed photos.

Over and over I have read that Alan Rickman enjoys receiving letters from his fans, I have two letters to prove it! It's his or Rima's personal address that we are not allowed to have, but overwise, dear fan, you are welcome to write!
AR;s fan
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 07:52:11 PM


In my opinion Alan Rickman is a great actor. I am a big fan of Harry Potter books and movies. In these films Alan plays an excellent role in all of these films. Also, he did an excellent job in Robin Hood and Sense and Sensibility. These characters are completely different. All I really have to say is that Alan you need to keep up the good work and stay cool.
Cute at 23
Greenville, South Carolina, United States - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 07:48:26 PM

Re: TWTBD

The only way I can connect with it is through the site I found it on last. That would be http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=1128582&chapter=34

Lablanche: as you can see, the last time I could access it, the story was up to chapter 34. Is this the last chapter she put up? If you have a more up to date site, please post it here for the rest of us.

JMHO: the home address (or was it phone number) for contacting Ms.Rima is out there on the internet for anybody with the brain and time and inclination to search it out. I understand why it is a policy to delete that if it is presented in a post here, but any harsh comments about doing so seems extraneous.
Carolyn, dear Carolyn
CO, uSA - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 07:25:39 PM


That is really good news about SRO!!! Thanks to Janine and Kimberly so much and I hope someone can tape this one.Pity we don't get Sky here.... This new, revised and updated edition of AR's Unauthorised Bio, was released in paperback here in May this year and does seem to be a better book than the last and does mention a little bit more - not much more, mind you, but it DOES mention the Rickmaniacs!!
Barbara the Australian
Gold Coast, Australia - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 06:41:16 PM

"Judas Kiss": At a diner, Friedman, "Well, blank me sideways!" To which Hawkins (Emma Thompson) replys, "What...here?" Even when using the "F" word, AR seems more comical than foul-mouthed. Can't this guy do anything wrong?!
AR's fan
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 06:29:49 PM

Hi Ali-Pat, Yes, that is the right tape-Judas Kiss-must have had a long day--HA HA-we went to see spy kids 3D-maybe I am still in that game over 3D mode! Have a good one Pam
Pam H.
Massachusetts, USA - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 05:24:52 PM

Maybe *Judas Priest* is ala Fausta's *Not the Official Sequels*. Subtitled: David Friedman Meets Rasputin?
Cindie
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 04:52:17 PM

Pam H.--do you mean Judas Kiss? (ROFL)
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 04:06:32 PM

Hi everyone. What a beautiful sunny day! I just wanted to let you know that if anyone has a BJ's warehouse around them (I am not sure if we only have them on the east coast) but there were a lot of the AR VHS tapes today, including Dogma and a few others. I also found a couple at a store called Strawberries and bought Michael Collins for 5.00 and also found another one at our local video store Judas Priest. (I cant watch that one until my son goes back to school!!) All of these are VHS mind you, but are so cheap its better than renting. If I buy one that really isnt a favorite (which I havent encountered yet) I can always donate it to the fall Library Book/tape sale.. Have a nice evening, Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 04:03:32 PM

Panicked a bit when I read on the GB that Jim Dale was doing the audio version of Phoenix, I'm old enough to remember him in the "Carry On" films! Must only be for the US market. Checked on Amazon's UK website tonight, and hooray! Stephen Fry is batting once again for Blighty, but we have to wait until September? Boo!
Juliet
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 03:02:19 PM

Sonoma, I should guess that "Sinclairs House" is a private property but you can certainly see it from the river as I did or maybe even from Marlow Bridge. Cliveden is owned by the National Trust and opened on set days.
Here is another Pic of the house on the river
Sue
England - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 02:14:44 PM

Sue, are those Close My Eyes locations easily accessible? I'll be visiting England in the fall and if I can, I'd like to have a look! I'm already planning on visiting Scotland's National Monument for its Tango at the End of Winter reference.

Thanks to everyone for the SRO info. I love the idea of it and hope I do get to see it one day, AR or not. Georgiana, I hope someone takes you up on your offer!
sonoma
usa - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 01:07:28 PM


Here's another snippet about who the next Harry Potter director might be:

Director Newell Eyeing Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire! Source: The Hollywood Reporter Friday, July 25, 2003

Warner Bros. Pictures and director Mike Newell are looking to team up on the studio's fourth installment of its Harry Potter franchise, Harry Potter and Goblet of Fire.

Although the director has not yet seen a script or even met with studio executives about the project, both sides are eager to work together on "Goblet."

Should a deal be reached, Newell would be the first British filmmaker to come aboard the franchise after U.S. director Chris Columbus and Mexican Alfonso Cuaron helmed the first three films.

Newell's next project is Revolution Studios' Mona Lisa Smile, starring Julia Roberts.

(Newell also directed "An Awfully Big Adventure."

Kimberly
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 12:35:23 PM


Snippet in last Saturday's Telegraph that Warner Bros are thinking of a British director for HP & Goblet of Fire and could be in 2 films as soooo long.
Juliet
Up in't North, UK - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 12:23:32 PM

alan rickman is soo sexy i love all his films but my favoratse are harry potter and truly, madley, deeply
lizzy pearce , <hunnybunny20037@hotmail.comfoo>
marlborough, wiltshire, england - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 11:21:42 AM

Yes Doris, I put them up to see who would recognise them!!;) Well spotted!! The *temple-like* building above the river is actually part of Cliveden, a National Trust stately home once owned by the Astors. The river trip/picnic scene was filmed below there. It really is a fabulous stretch of the River thames.
Sue
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 10:52:19 AM

@Sue, England: I looked at your "holiday on the river" pictures. Oh, they looks like the houses and the river from Close my eyes. Sorry if they really are and it was already mentioned, I didn't read the other postings properly. I just dropped in and looked out for photos to statisfy my curious nose. *gggg* I shouldn't spend my next holiday in Italy, I should come over to Great Britain... ;-)))
Doris
Lechstadt/Bayern, - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 10:15:34 AM

I would just like to thank all the people that keep this site going. I guess I am a lurker because I read it all the time. I was just able to buy an AR movie that I have been looking for forever by reaching half.com ebay (which I didn't even know existed), which I found through faq hyper-links. I hadn't looked at faq for a long time but a post in the guest book made me take a look and I do believe it's been so long there is new info I hade not seen before. I also see info on other movies with AR that I am dying to get but there is only so much $ at a time for adding to my AR collection. Anyways, thanks or those who post with info I would never find elseware and an especially big thanks to those who keep it running.
ellen w , <kjwoody@rcn.comfoo>
whitehall, pa, usa - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 09:50:05 AM

Hi, back from my trip. Thanks to copious amounts of food, wine and ginger snapes (thanks Pam), I didn't have to think of England. And thanks to the gods or whatever, I did NOT call out Alan's name during a "delicate" moment. There would be no explaining that away. So...all systems go, marriage back on track, up & at'em, house still standing, kids still alive, All's Well That Ends Well. And now I have a ton of laundry to do.......
Sandy , <note to self-do not traumatize the children who visit this GB.foo>
Canada - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 07:35:16 AM

Pam H. Please do not stay away from this GB. You have made MANY excellent contributions and should continue to do so. You are obviously a sweet lady and thought the information on the Internet was public knowledge. I have an idea that the "personal" information actually goes through a screening process to filter-out any non-official contact and that it is not Ms. Horton's personal information at all. These people are not stupid and know how to protect themselves if necessary, I give them credit for that. Please do not think that everyone is mad at you, I think the fact that you are very apologetic for the "mistake" is enough. Let it be, let it go, we forgive you...life goes on...:)
lee
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 06:58:45 AM

Hi everyone, I can't believe my friend went in and posted last night! Good grief-no ACC I didnt take your message personally and I do not have a guily conscience. End of that discussion anyway. Does anyone recommend getting that new AR book an unauthorized biography by maureen paton or does it have a lot of wrong information in it..Maybe I should hold off for a different book in the future that is authorized? Today is a beautiful day, nice and sunny and warm-going out to enjoy the day too, just my son and myself-hubby has gone to work..maybe take in a movie too after shopping at the warehouse for food (Maybe Ill find a AR tape there-I found Dogma on VHS for 5.00 last time!) Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence guys-here I am and will post any new AR info I find. I am going to enjoy the rest of the summer before it all starts in again with school, book sales at the Library, church fairs, Sunday School teaching again (this is going to be my last year of teaching after almost 7 years) Its time to pass it on to someone else. I also run a pumpkin festival at the Library and thought I would do a Harry Potter theme for it. If anyone has any good ideas that are kind of basic please forward them on to me. Its okay to use my email if you want. Again, see you all later and have a great day-enjoy life-it's to short--Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, UISA - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 06:51:54 AM

If anyone with access to Sky would make a tape of SRO for me, I'd gladly convert it to region 1 for US fans. Please contact me (gellis@drizzle.com) if interested.
Georgiana , <gellis@drizzle.comfoo>
Seattle - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 06:44:34 AM

Pam H. -- Don't feel funny about posting! If you have news or an opinion about something go ahead. Nobody's mad at you.
I'm surprised Suzanne didn't erase all references to the post. - She will erase stuff from time to time, it doesn't mean you did anything wrong. That info is easily obtainable with a google search and I was utterly shocked when I found it over a year ago. I'm greatly surprised that it's still there!
It leads me to the question I asked a few posts down... Does AR co-habitate or is he living single? One article I read stated that he lived alone in London.....

On a brighter O.T. note - We have no plans today! no daycamp, no swimming lessons, no birthday parties, I don't work - Hubby's gone, just me and the kids and I'm utterly thrilled!!! - I haven't relaxed in weeks, maybe I'll get out a movie.....

On another O.T. note, I'm re-reading Outlander by Diana Gabaldon. Is anyone else here a fan of her books??
Chandra
NC, - Monday, July 28th 2003 - 03:44:23 AM


Hmmm, if you did not intend to follow up regarding Ms. Horton's phone number, email and address, why bring it up here and offer to email people to tell them how to access it? Even if you personally didn't do it, you would be culpable for any people that decided to investigate based on the information you provided. I did not make any accusations to you particularly, and stated that Ms. Horton posted the information related to her job in the public sector and would sort anyone out that abused the information. If you personalized that statement then you must have a guilty conscience. The fact that you felt what you did was wrong is not got anything to do with me.
A Concerned Citizen
- Monday, July 28th 2003 - 01:07:52 AM

Found this bit while strolling around the web:

Sky

Kate & Leopold is preceded by Standing Room Only, a short, silent film which takes a wry look at the people queuing for theatre tickets. It's directed by Jackman's other half, Aussie actress Deborra-Lee Furness, and features a 24-carat celeb count including Alan Rickman, Maureen Lipman, model Sophie Dahl, Gollum guy Andy Serkis and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio.

Standing Room Only plays on Saturday 14 September at 20.00 on Sky Movies Premier.

Issued: Friday, July 11, 2003

So, anyone with Sky Premier watch out for this and let us know for certain if Alan shows up! Sky Premier--is that available just in Britain? I know we don't have it in the States.
Kimberly
- Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 10:17:53 PM


I do not know If Ms Paton was confused or just confused us. Yet the Standing Room only gig is Debbora Lee Furness - Mrs Jackmen yet a force in her own right. The collaberations between AR and Hugh Jackman may be something else altogether..or here's hopeing ther is something brewing. Hugh Jackman will be appearing in the USA in the Boy From Oz so some of you may be lucky enough to see Hugh and maybe I wonder would AR have the time to do so as well. Do not worry Pam H address are everywhere (especially politicians)yet this does not mean I believe that you would do anything intrusive (Although I cannot pretend that I did not wonder about hanging out in a certain florist shop..just the airfare and the annual leave and the grumpy family and reality took hold)
Janine
- Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 09:16:59 PM

man o man Alan Rickman really is a chameleon! He has been in soooo many movies that i have seen but i never knew he was in them! CRAZY! i saw Harry Potter, I love his voice... ooo sexy. Then i saw Rasputin in my English class and i could only tell that it was him by the voice! Anyway, I will have to look harder from now on, I love his facial expressions and the fact that he also works on stage! I am an "actress" too, and I admire his work. :)
Jennifer Barkenhagen , <BasketballGurlie2@msn.comfoo>
VA BCH, VA, USA - Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 09:02:58 PM

Hello. I have never posted before but my friend Pam H. has a few times and says you are a bunch of fun women. I guess she is staying away from the GB for a while as she felt a little embarrased by her over enthusiasm of finding that address of Rima's. She is such a nice sweet lady (and not very tall either!) and would never do anything to bother anyone etc. She is just a person that discovered some fun on the GB at the end of the day. Anyway, I am sure she will be back eventually even if to lurk and read the stories, but ACC kind of hurt her feelings in an accusatory way claiming she Pam H.) was going to write to them etc. and how heaven help her if Rima or both of them answered the door etc. She is okay now and its water under the bridge as they say, but will take time for her to post again. (I told her to have a couple of her famous and yummy ginger snape cookies to make her feel better.. This is a great place to come and relax-keep up the good work and keep the stories coming. I hope Pam H. will submit her story one day as it's a fantastic one. Goodnight all Beth
Beth
Rhode Island, - Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 08:52:25 PM

I know that white raven is working on the latest chapter of TWTBD, I read a rough version last week. I do not know when she intends to post, however, but it is quite incendiary. It will definitely be worth the wait.
lablanche
- Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 08:36:45 PM

"Beware, especially of very small ladies that have had to learn to compensate for their size...."
Yep, we petites compensate and drive attitudes like men with small...well, like the guys that drive shiny sports cars with big motors!
I bet she gets more than her fair share of crazies calling her for non-business/political reasons, too, bless her.
witch lisa
- Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 07:50:29 PM

CdC, how do you find TWTBD? I can not find it at all.
I have tried and failed.
- Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 07:17:09 PM

I'm astonished! No AR in SRO??? Thanks so much to Kimberly and to Sue for that report on Deborah from Rove Live. No wonder she didn't mention him. Isn't AR in Partnership with Hugh Jackman???? (Producers?) It says in THAT book (near the end), that AR was definatly in it with Michael Gambon.... Could Ms. Paton have made another mistake?
Barbara the Australian , <bpac350@hotmail.comfoo>
Qld., Australia - Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 06:56:05 PM

Anybody know why it's been such a long dry spell since the last chapter of TWTBD?
Carolyn, dear Carolyn
CO, uSA - Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 06:12:31 PM

Thank you Sue for the link. Thank you Kimberly I would have been heart broken to go to the effort and NO AR! My poor toes would have been frost bitten to venture out with one toe bandaged and therefore only wearing slip on sandles in winter brrrh. With hubby nagging I should be in bed and recoperating (the nagging and the cold won). So I did not go. Now I know why AR was not mentioned in the interviews. I wondered if -SPOILER- he was the character they were queing to see that was in there midsts. Kimberley you are more than welcome to email me. regards Janine
Janine , <janinels@optusnet.com.aufooythingo'foo>
Bentleigh, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia - Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 05:58:06 PM

This just posted on an Alan Rickman Yahoo!Group regarding "Standing Room Only":

Hey everyone! I am new to this group so I don't know if there has been much talk about Standing Room Only but I have some sad news :(

Last week I discovered SRO would be screening at the Melbourne International Film Festival (in Australia). Deborra-Lee Furness was on Rove [Aussie tv show] promoting the festival and talking about SRO. When she didn't mention Alan's name I was disappointed but not suprised since his name is often left out as you may have noticed.

Melbourne Film Festival

I was so excited at the chance of seeing Alan's face on the big screen (even if I wouldn't get to hear his sweet voice) that I booked tickets online. Again the site made no mention of Alan but after checking heaps of AR sites and the internet movie data base I was sure that he must be in it.

Anyway last night I saw Standing Room Only and Alan wasn't in it!!!! I had my AR radar on, and got my bf, who came with me, to look out for him but we didn't see him. Not even as a background extra. We both scanned the credits (which didn't go fast) and his name was not there!!! My heart was broken.

If anyone else on this list has seen this short film or has any information about why I didn't see Alan in it, please let me know. I am so disappointed.

On a lighter note, SRO was pretty funny. It has Michael Gambon (the new Dumbledore) and Mary-Elizabeth Mastrantonio (Robin Hood and January Man).


Kimberly
- Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 03:43:17 PM


Thanks, Kimberly, for the link to that picture with Grint and Oldham. Am glad to see the hair appears to be reverting to the natural luminescent gray he had when I first saw him in person at the Burma benefit in June of 2000. It downloaded fine for me two days ago, although the GB would not let me post at the time.

And unlike the SRO trailer, which will not run on my Mac no matter which browser I use. Sorry to see no mention of Himself in the article about that little filmlet.

Georgiana
Seattle, - Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 07:31:55 AM


Janine, thank you so much. Thanks Sue for the link. I red Mamet's books some time ago and was fascinated by the idea of only telling a story in cuts. By reading them I got a better insight into film and into the "language of pictures". And it was great fun, too.
Amelie
- Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 05:25:04 AM

Here is the Link to Deborra Lee Furness Article that Janine quotes.
Sue
England - Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 12:57:24 AM

Hi All Here is part of an interview Deborra Lee Furness gave. The url is here too sorry I do not risk damaging the GB with a failed link. While I cannot get to the movie I feel the emotion as much as the content would appeal to people here. Hopefully it gets picked up for some of the shows that feature short films on TV. I was thrilled to read her philosophy which I feel reflected what I said to Joan. Sometimes it is not the goal but the journey. I might be here because I am an AR fan yet it is getting to know other AR fans that make being a fan and sharing life - personally validating.

http://theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/24/1058853193512.html

The film, Standing Room Only, which will be shown at the Melbourne International Film Festival, is about a group of people waiting in line to see a West End show by the "Man of a Thousand Faces". They are unaware that he is mingling with them and as the film develops (quickly) they become the stars of the show.

"I took an anonymous quote from the internet - 'between the wish and the thing there is life'," Furness says.

"It fitted my piece beautifully. My point being that we are always waiting for (something to happen) - 'when I get a dog or when I get married, that's when life will really happen' - it's not that. It is moment to moment.

"And the joy of this journey of people going to see their hero was that they had an amazing encounter with each other, they made friendship. And (it also says) that sometimes the thing you want is right in front of you and you don't even see it. There's lots of little sub-messages in there."

Sorry to post this twice yet it needed the spaces edit the first one out please o' mighty DOC
Janine (toe is better yet I cannot go out in the Melbourne winter bare footed brrrh cold and not stylish)
- Sunday, July 27th 2003 - 12:38:05 AM


Hi Alan, I think you are dead sexy even if we are 38yrs. apart. I still think you are a very sexy man famous or not.
Hillary Bontemps , <lil_kitty@godisdead.comfoo>
Sacramento, California, USA - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 09:49:55 PM

Mary wrote something about obsession, and that some of us have moved on from obsessing about Alan, but can remember what it is like. I think if we've obsessed about Alan and moved on, eventually we will obsess about someone else, and move on. I seriously think that the reason we look for someone else, as Mary put it, to validate our existence, is because we didn't have that crucial experience when we were young. I think you are then lost in a timeless yearning for it, that waxes and wanes, but is always there.
Cynthia
- Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 09:19:17 PM

Angela, you need Macromedia Flash Player 6 to watch the Love Actually trailer. If you don't have it, it can be downloaded here: Flash Player 6
Kimberly
- Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 05:33:12 PM

the Love Actually trailer won't play for me! Would someone tell me what I need to play it? RealPlayer? QuickTime? Flash? Something else? What am I doing wrong?
Angela
CT, US - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 04:00:55 PM

A BIG thank you for the link to Love Actually. Alan looks good! Can't wait to see the movie.

A big thank you to Stezi, too, for her new pictures of Alan in Close My Eyes. He looks so good in that movie. The picture of him grinning just melts my.... spatula!
Gaye
Adelaide, South Australia, - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 03:34:16 PM


Hey Joan, are you there? come in Joan.... earth to Joan - please respond....
Chandra
NC, - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 03:01:40 PM

Thanks to "Mary from McHenry" for giving a glimse of hope to those of us trying to get over our "obession" for AR. It is fine to be a fan of someone, but when you find yourself frequently thinking about the actor and feeling sad that he will never be part of your life then it is not as much fun anymore. Thanks also for giving the words of encouragement to Joan, It was obvious she was having a very hard time that day.
MD
NYC, - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 02:47:28 PM

Wow!! Fantastic!! Thanks to Sue for posting the info about the LA trailer and thanks to everybody who helped me figger out how to view it! Not much AR to be sure, but my-my-my doesn't he look fine?
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 12:41:27 PM

Ciao ciao Chiara. Please translate for us non-Italiano readers!
FastFilm
Los Angeles, Calif., - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 11:07:19 AM

Sue, thanks for the trailer! On my computer it's very small and blocky, but at least he speaks!

I don't know if it's only my computer, but all the links take me to a screen with various countries listed. I selected Belgium (ENG) for the English version and just typed Love Actually in the search and got there directly.
sonoma
usa - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 09:26:25 AM


Almost forgot - Thanks, Sue!!!
VH
Ohio, USA - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 08:41:55 AM

An even more direct link to LA trailer

Just scroll down to the bottom.

Incidentally, anyone using Safari as their browser might want to try Internet Explorer (or another browser). Safari just didn't seem to work for this website.
VH
Ohio, USA - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 07:43:59 AM


Love Actually Trailer

Ali-Pat: This should be a more direct link. Click on the "BA" tab and then click on the Love Actually box.

And, THANK YOU! Sue, for posting this link!

Kimberly
- Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 06:29:50 AM


Ali-Pat - that link should take you to "Bande Annonce List" (sorry I don't do French!!)It should be on 'L' just scroll down to the bottom box called Love Actually.
We did have smoked salmon and wine but nothing of Sinclair proportions!!LOL
Sue
- Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 06:28:31 AM

Thanks for the beautiful photos, Sue! I don't suppose you were on a boat with a massive picnic lunch, were you?

Couldn't find the Love Actually trailer on the site--what am I doing wrong?
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 05:56:49 AM


Thank you, Sue, for the "Love Actually" trailer; I look forward to its release date. Barbara (tW), I would be honored if I could create and write a story line for one of Mr. Rickman's characters and share it with the rest of the talented writers on this site and fellow readers. Unfortunately, the characters of the films I have seen are taken, and I dare not choose a character I have not seen a performance of. Even if I know the plays he has starred in, I feel that I might have missed a slight detail of which only Mr. Rickman could provide [Obvious, his originality is why we adore him ;-)]. When I can find a character of his that I can create a story line for, if it is still available, and with the permission of those of you who have "seasoned" this site, I would appreciate the opportunity. Respectfully,
Les , <Lompocian1982@go.comfoo>
California, USA - Saturday, July 26th 2003 - 12:42:54 AM

Barbara the Wallpaperer: lucky you found it! I clicked on "News" and then clicked on "forum".

It said: "Contact us: info@zamok.net
AR's fan
- Friday, July 25th 2003 - 06:19:10 PM


yacht.zamok.net/DV/Potter/Posters/Rickman/

is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE website.

They use my work and Sally's work without permission and make it impossible to contact them to have it removed.

Nasty little theivin' buggers....
Barbara the Wallpaperer
- Friday, July 25th 2003 - 04:36:43 PM


Sue, thank you for the trailer to Love Actually!! It looks very good. Only wish they would have had more of Alan in the trailer!!
Leanne
WI, USA - Friday, July 25th 2003 - 03:28:26 PM

I have been away a few days so I do not know if anyone has posted Love Actually trailer on a French site???
Sue
England - Friday, July 25th 2003 - 02:55:07 PM

Thanks for the lovely photos, Sue! I think that apart from the sublimely beautiful Alan Rickman, that gorgeous location was the only thing worthy of note in Close My Eyes!
Rickfan37
UK - Friday, July 25th 2003 - 02:39:19 PM

Hello, I have just returned from a holiday on the river. A couple of holiday snaps that may be familiar to you? Pic 1, Pic 2
Sue
England - Friday, July 25th 2003 - 09:49:06 AM

OFF TOPIC to Anne/Manhattan: There is a review of Henry Goodman in Richard III at www.whatsonstage.com ...I also enjoyed seeing him in Tartuffe in NY and as the crazed press secretary in Feelgood in London (wedged between viewings of Private Lives).
Penny S.
- Friday, July 25th 2003 - 07:03:03 AM

Aaaah, che ammmmmmore! Credo che Alan Rickman sia in migliore attore del mondo. Non trovate? W l'ITALIA (sono di sinistra) ma soprattutto W ALAN!!! SEI IL PIù GRANDE!!!!! the best in the word forever, yeah now the best W la 2a LA
Chiara Bernardi , <kibern@inwind.itfoo>
Spinea-VE, Italy, - Friday, July 25th 2003 - 06:16:06 AM

I wish I could see "Standing Room Only", except I can't find a showing in my location. Meanwhile, good luck to those of you who can see a showing and hope to post another day! :-)
Les , <Lompocian1982@go.comfoo>
California, USA - Friday, July 25th 2003 - 01:43:42 AM

No worries Janine! Is there ANYBODY in Victoria Australia, who is going to see Standing Room Only? Deborah Furness seems such a Nice person. The Melbourne International Film Festival looks to be a winner and it is good to see so many BIG names there! Shame it is only showing 2 times -26th and 28th.... Have to go now as I may FREEZE to this computer if I stay longer.... It is so COLD here at the moment. Bye!
Barbara the Australian
Gold Coast, Australia - Friday, July 25th 2003 - 01:31:14 AM

Alan Rickman as himself!!!

Go to: yacht.zamok.net/DV/Potter/Posters/Rickman/

Click on AR Gothic Face and scroll down for more choices, including backstage photos!!
AR's fan
- Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 10:33:29 PM


Hi everyone, My deepest apologies to everyone on the GB with the hint at the address etc. of AR and Rima. I would never use this information and have forgotten it already. Suzanne, I am sorry if this caused problems to your site. I sure hope it hasnt as you have a wonderful site and everyone here is so nice and fun to chat with. Again, I am sorry and have a nice evening and take care, Pam P.S. if I could, I'd bake Suzanne a batch of Ginger Snape cookies for my blunder. Have a nice evening'
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 08:28:39 PM

Christine, thank you for sharing. I will lie back and think of England whilst eating up the last donut to remove all temptation
ACC
- Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 06:40:28 PM

Hi Lee! "True Love's Curse" keeps getting better; today's left me with a chill down my spine. Congratulations on the new addition to your family. My uncle resently gave his boys a Beagle puppy, and I can't wait to see her on Saturday! To Pam: I can relate to your findings of Ms. Horton's address. Another way you could put it as having 9-1-1 for emergencies, but "hoping" you won't need to use it.
Les , <Lompocian1982@go.comfoo>
California, USA - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 06:17:14 PM

I am sorry to say that due to bad timing and a small operation on my toe I will not be able to attend the Standing Room Only showing tonight. I do hope someone else makes it and shares it with us all. Here is a link to the article in The Age about Debra unfortunately it does not mention A.R. (Sorry Barbara I missed Rove, yet thanks for the profile)

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/23/1058853136122.html
Janine , <janinels@optusnet.com.aufooythingyfoo>
- Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 05:55:31 PM


So! Andrew Nebbit (see news & info pg) is Alan's antiques dealer! At last, I have a lead on where he found the "amazing 18th-century cushion" for E. Thompson's bad back! :)
Ann W
AZ, USA - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 05:01:00 PM

Hu ACC, I wouldnt use Ms. Hortons address or phone number either, thought it was just kind of neat, thats all. I dont believe in bothering people famous or otherwise unless invited. I guess it goes back to those teenage years when we tried to discover whatever we could about the Beatles.. Anyway, have a good one... Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 04:47:15 PM

Sandy, just lay back and think of England.........;)
Works every time
- Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 04:16:18 PM

Apropos of nothing, except ACC's comment about National Breastfeeding Week: did you know there is a common British bird called... (wait for it)... the *great tit*? I didn't know it until today.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3068781.stm
Christine , <fivefeettall,dimples,butnodoughnuts,sadlyfoo>
USA - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 03:54:17 PM

As a council official, I believe that Ms. Horton feels that she should be accessible to the public for official reasons. The information about her address, etc is available online, and I believe, with her permission. I would not recommend that anyone use such information for the purposes other than intended. I would imagine that if one did, that they would be very quickly sorted out by Ms Horton, Mr. Rickman, or {shudder} both of them. Beware, especially of very small ladies that have had to learn to compensate for their size....
ACC
- Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 01:41:15 PM

Thanks so much for posting the photos, Kimberly!!! Glad to see Mr. Rickman looking so chipper and Mr. Oldman looking so....interesting!
sonoma
usa - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 12:09:52 PM

Sandy, Have a nice time. Just do not say Alan...Alan...Alan like in AABA and you should be fine. (Unless your husband's name is Alan of course.) LOL
lee
- Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 10:05:24 AM

Hi Sandy, The correct amount of Ginger you need for the Ginger Snape cookies is 1 teaspoon Ginger. I hope the cookies come out Yummy and you have a great trip. As for the information on the internet, I know what you mean, it must be tough being in the spotlight and having your public information out there. I would never contact him at this number or address, only through his agent as he has requested. If I ever get back to England, that would be kind of neat though to just casually walk through the neighborhood in chance of a surprise meeting! Knowing my luck, he would be on location somewhere and my family would just roll their eyes and say Mom!! Anyway, have a good trip and enjoy the cookies. See everyone later tonight on the GB. It has been raining like crazy today and I think I better try to get all my yard sale items ready for the Library Yard Sale Saturday and then watch RHPOT DVD. Have a nice day Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 08:44:45 AM

According to the Leaky Cauldron site, Warner Brothers "asked" them to take down the Gary Oldman/Alan Rickman/Rupert Grint photo and they did so. So that link at least won't work anymore.
Magda
Canada - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 06:06:26 AM

Sandy

Have fun!
Barbara the Wallpaperer
- Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 05:24:24 AM


Hi Pam, thanks for the recipe. Ginger is supposed to relieve motion sickness so I'll bake a batch today for my trip. How much ginger should be added to these ginger snapes?

How nervous/upset must Rima be knowing her name, address, and number are on the internet for any loony-tune to find?
Sandy
Canada - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 05:04:13 AM


Punk Librarian, looked for your last post but it's gone! Enjoyed reading it and seeing your pictures. The other man in the group photo had a familial resemblance to Alan. Or maybe not. I saw a very teeny tiny picture of Alan and Rima together. She's much shorter than he is and has dark medium length hair. Couldn't see too well, but she looks like she has dimples when she smiles. She's cute - if middle aged women can or should be described that way.

Tomorrow my hubby and I are sailing off into the sunset for a few days. Actually it's a power boat but sailing into the sunset sounds much more romantic than powering into the sunset. My kidlets are on their own for the first time and I've made all the right threats and bribes and they've said all the right things to ensure that hubby and I can relax and have a good time. It's a "let's get to know each other again" weekend and I'm scared to death. 'Fraid I've forgotten most of what two people do when they're alone together and without interruption. Guess I'll start by drinking a lot of wine. Is this more info about me than you ever wanted to know? Will leave then...be back soooooooooon...........
Sandy
Canada - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 04:59:21 AM


Mum's Irish and uses "Himself" with frequency, (mostly when referring to one of my brothers, who's a bit grand) also found being refered to as "she" insulting "Use my name!"- I do not know if that is Irish, too.
Suzanne will probably remove the "Rima Reference" -- I found that site about a year ago -- It's pretty easy to get to and if that info actually refers to where anyone we're interested in resides, it's just odd as all that - I was wondering if they actually do live in the same house - one article I read stated that Himself resided alone... and while most things I've read about his background, and I've not gotten to the unauthorized bio he dislikes so intensly -- do say that they have been together forever but have never married.
Chandra
NC, Another Essay - Thursday, July 24th 2003 - 04:11:12 AM

ACC-HI OT have you had a diabetic test? Too much sugar can cause reactions..I know..as there are some more diabetics here. AR is our healthy fix.
Janine
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 10:37:40 PM

When I call AR "Himself," I mean it in an affectionate, respectful way. It's almost familiar.

If I didn't respect AR, I'd probably be calling him "Rickman" with a curling lip and a sugary voice.

But, since I respect AR quite a lot, I feel a bit jocular about how I refer to Himself in conversation.

I've never seen the word "Himself" used in anything except a secular manner.
Barbara the Wallpaperer
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 10:31:55 PM


Post deleted.
Please refer to #13 of the FAQ.
Suz (D.o.C.)
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 10:15:51 PM

A British eBay seller once asked me if I was Irish, "no offence intended" (!), because I'd mentioned in an email that I'd recently seen "Himself" (meaning the actor whose program I'd just bought) on stage. I got a kick out of ACC's Olympus reference - Catholics of my generation were taught to capitalize all pronouns referring to God (ours), but capitalization of a pronoun referring to, say, Zeus (himself) would have cost us points.

OFF TOPIC: British GBers, where should I look to find reviews of Henry Goodman in Richard III, which opened last night at the RSC in Stratford? I'm thinking about trying to catch this in the fall because Goodman was terrific in Tartuffe on Broadway earlier this year. I'd love to hear from anyone who sees it (agilhuly "at" gibsondunn "dotcom").
Anne/Manhattan
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 10:06:30 PM


Hi everyone, I just found a pretty interesting AR site to investigate. Its called the Alan Rickman meetup and can be found at www.Rickman.meetup.com It helps connect with people in your city (country) for a special AR meetup day August 12th at 8PM at a location near your home town. Once you provide your zip code or town name, they list 3 or 4 meeting places that you can vote on to meet at with people from your area. I thought it sounded fun and wanted to share it with you. By the way, I mixed up a batch of those ginger snape cookies today and they came out delicious. I plan on decorating them tomorrow! Should be fun- Thanks also to all the authors of stories on the FOF. I go in every night to read them all. Lee, your story is so good, I can't wait for the next chapter! Good night all Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 09:47:30 PM

Ah Murphy,'tis as herself has said - the Irish (at least those of my mother's and my mother's mother's generation) tend to use the terms to designate persons for whom they have an affectionate regard, or a grudging sort of respect. But it's all in the inflection - it can also be used as a derisive designation, or to indicate someone who thinks too highly of themselves. I should probably 'splain that I'm second generation American, so I can only go on the explanations offered by my mother.

An with a foin name like Murphy, 'tis knowing this you should be!

All right, I'm done with the cheesy Irish. Cheers to all, and you too, BtW!
Mary from McHenry , <Jeez, out from lurking to post like a maniac!foo>
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 08:27:19 PM


Child unit started training at Krispy Kreme donuts-training by making donuts-brought home two huge boxes-sugar overload-sorry-wish I had a drink-all that sugar makes one thirsty
ACC
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 07:49:51 PM

Sonoma, here are two recent photos for you of Alan. The first one was taken by a fan at the National Theatre on July 14th. According to Renie in an earlier post, Alan was there to see Kenneth Branaugh in "Edmond." The second photo is the one you requested of Alan with Gary Oldman, Rupert Grint, and a couple of fans. Rupert and Gary are obviously in costume.

National Theatre

Alanand Gary Oldman

Kimberly
Michigan, USA - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 07:31:08 PM


ACC. Has someone been spiking your drinks?
Worried
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 06:39:11 PM

Carole's link to the Gary Oldman/Alan Rickman photo doesn't work anymore. Is the photo viewable anywhere else? I think they're both great actors and would love to see it.
sonoma
usa - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 06:28:49 PM

I mean Clarify
Fingers going too fast
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 06:28:18 PM

BtW, I do not understand what you are saying. Please clairify.
Murphy Himself
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 06:26:21 PM

"Himself"

I've never seen the word, when used to refer to a fellow, to be anything other than a particularly snarky mark of respect. :D

People one doesn't respect and like are addressed properly by name. The people one does respect and like.... ah, the options are still open on that!


Barbara the Wallpaperer
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 05:28:44 PM


FYI-August 1-7 is National Breastfeeding Week-so if you wonder where the man of your life is, he is probably standing in line waiting for his turn....
ACC ,
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 04:23:55 PM

Janine found this "Nimbus 2003 Harry Potter symposium" which took place the same week that I was in Disney World. It looks really interesting and it would be excellent if next year some of the GB lurkers could go and meet. This is the web site, but I do not know how to link. Check out some of the discussions and topics they had.

http://www.hp2003.org/nimbuspgmtrack.html
lee, wearing my "WWSD" bracelet and eating ginger Snape cookies.
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 02:06:05 PM


Thanks for the "Himself" clarification-wouldn't do, would it,to encourage fantasies of "Godhood" among the newly obsessed, would it. A WWSD bracelet? I don't think so. A WWAD bracelet? Only if I could send one to him and then videotape his reaction to it-what a laugh that one would be!
ACC
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 01:39:36 PM

Not specifically Alan-related, but nonetheless: http://www.elle.com/article.asp?article_id=2809&page_number=1§ion_id=36 or click on my name.
Julia
Canada - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 01:35:59 PM

Actually, Jane Austen included quite a bit of "nitty, gritty reality" in her books, the overwhelming marjority of it dealing with the position of women in her society. From the spinsterish Anne Elliot in "Persuasion" to the deluded sex kitten Lydia Bennet in "Pride and Prejudice" to the pauperish Fanny Price in "Mansfield Park" all the way through the very real restrictions on the lives of the Dashwood girls in S&S, there is more realism than in any other 19th century author with the exception of Charles Dickens (who had two more decades to write way more books). The idea that Austen wrote about well-off ladies drinking tea is an old myth and one that Emma Thompson's movie reveals wonderfully.

End of rant.

Magda
Canada - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 01:09:49 PM


I agree whole heartedly about wishing AR would do more audio books. *Blind Corner* is still my favourite as a romping good story. If they ever made it into a move wouldn't AR make a perfect J. Mansel?
Cindie
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 12:11:35 PM

Janine: Emma wrote the scene towards the end of the shoot, as a way to show the "ugly, gritty reality" that Auten never includes in her books. They shot it, it was Alan's last day on the set(?). Ang Lee decided that it tipped the movie's emotional balance too far towards tragedy. It's mentioned in the "S&S Diary."

I only recently acquired a DVD player: I wouldn't know about the DVD extras.
Ann W
Az, USA - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 11:28:52 AM


Lee: Yep, I listened to RotN a few months back. I listened while I walked, and managed to trip over a sidewalk crack when I got too involved with the story. That rhyme that says Tuesday's child is full of grace missed...just a little bit. I wish he'd do more audiobooks.

Somebody, somewhere suggested Rickman reading R-rated Snape fanfic [think of the money-making potential for charitable contributions]but I think the chances are depressingly slim.
Carolyn, dear Carolyn
CO, uSA - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 11:22:14 AM


I was able to get "Close My Eyes" (slightly used) and "Closet Land" (new) from Amazon. I am glad they are still available.
lee
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 11:12:21 AM

Hi everyone, I finally am getting back on the computer! I have taken my son so far to see the movies Pirates of the Caribbean and Johnny English. They are both great films for adults and kids as well. (Friday it's Spy Kids 3!) The place ought to be packed.. Anyway, here is the recipe I use for the Ginger Snap (or should I say Ginger Snape cookies) I also have a cookie cutter that resembles our dear Professor and use this to shape the cookies and get to decorate them after! Fun-Anyway, here goes: use either light or dark molasses. The light molasses will result in a much spicier cookie. (Just like our good Professor!) 1 cup packed brown sugar 3/4 cup shortening 1/4 cup molasses 1 egg 2 1/4 cups all purpose flour 2 teaspoons baking soda 1 teaspoon ground cinnamon 1/2 teaspoon ground cloves 1/4 teaspoon salt granulated sugar Mix Brown Sugar, shortening, molasses and egg. Stir in Flour, baking soda, cinnamon, ginger, cloves and salt. Cover and refrigerate at least one hour. Heat over to 375 degrees. Grease cookie sheet lightly. If you dont have the cookies shaped in the form of Snape, then Shape dough by Rounded teaspoonfuls into balls. Dip tops into granulated sugar. Place your Snape shapes (or the cookie dough balls) sugared side up about 3 inches apart on cookie sheet. Bake 10-12 minutes or until set.. They come out delicious and its fun to decorate the form of Snape... Enjoy your Ginger Snape cookies- Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 10:35:49 AM

Before I am leaving for York, un update: Close My Eyes. I still love this movie! So, see you all later!
Stezi , <alan-ric@alan-rickman.nlfoo>
Holland - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 09:23:33 AM

a bit off-topic, but I found a neat article about one of "da man's" costars in "Love Actually." Thought some of you might like to read it....now I'm back off to lurkdom and the three huge piles of paperwork on my desk... http://www.elle.com/article.asp?article_id=2809&page_number=1§ion_id=36
witch lisa
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 08:53:45 AM

Re the smoking discussion: in the revised version of That Book a old schoolmate says that AR was a Perfect at school, the Perfects had their own smoking room, and that he remembers AR's hands always stained with nicotine. I suspect that as an adult AR has not been a smoker. In films he only holds the cigarette and seldom drags on it. But in Closet Land he blows smoke rings! A trick from school days?
magpie , <hkbuchan@aol.comfoo>
Denver, CO, USA - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 08:13:30 AM

Hi everybody. It was really good to see Deborah Furness ( Wife of the cute Hugh Jackman), on Rove Live last night, on Ch.10. She was promoting "Standing Room Only" for the Melbourne International Film Festival! It's showing 26th and 28th July at the Village Theatre?? Anybody down there in Melbourne going to see this one?! Would LOVE to hear about this Short Film. She is such a happy person, isn't she? To Claire and Carole, A big Thank you for the Lovely Photo's!!!! Bye.
Barbara the Australian
Gold Coast, Australia. - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 07:28:30 AM

Never to miss the educatable moment: ACC, referring to someone as "Himself" or "Herself" is an extremely common Irish conversation conventuality which I learned at the knee of my mother, Margaret Sullivan. Has nothing to do with Mount Olympus, which would be Greek.

So I understand you wouldn't be in line for the WWAD (or WWSD) bracelet? :)
Mary from McHenry
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 07:10:19 AM


Has anyone here had the opportunity to listen to the tapes of "The Return of the Native" by Thomas Hardy, read by Alan Rickman? I thought Alan did a superb job with differentiating between characters. He absolutely brought this very difficult book alive through his talent and voice. He was simply amazing.
lee
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 06:39:14 AM

Spoiler that Paton book and S&S - In the Paton book she mentions that Ang Lee cut a scene that had Brandon visiting his lost love..being too lazy to check whether Ms P meant from the original story, I hoped this meant that one day this scene would be given to us in the DVD extras? (sorry not to give a direct citation yet it is freezing outside it is night and I keep the book in the car to read when i am waiting for Jnr to complete his hobbies/activities)
Janine (who is happy it rained today yet we will still endure water restrictions and it is winter and Melbourne is the wet place in Oz!)
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 06:18:29 AM

Mary from McHenri wrote: "When life is kicking you hard (or ignoring you utterly), when it seems like you have nothing going for you; and then that beautiful face and gorgeous voice float out at you in a darkened room, it feels like there's a world just a finger's-breadth away in which you can really, truly live. And that there's one person that can make all of "it" (whatever that is) seem real and true and right. Like you could finally, really be alive. And you begin to obsess."

How well put! Perfect! I cannot find better words for my own experience! And I thank you!

I also wholeheartedly agree that it is a nice relief to see us all back to our kind and generous selves towards eachother! I hope that Joan has taken comfort from the kindness here.
Constance
USA - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 03:17:15 AM


Anne/Manhattan: hmmm, did I get it right? Character has to do with your ethics and morality, and personality can be a show? If so, I see what you mean... Thanks!!!
Callette
Esgaroth - Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 01:53:31 AM

Carole: Thank you!
Anne/Manhattan
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 12:45:39 AM

Forgot to mention that AR saw Kenneth Branagh in "Edmond" at the National last Monday. Branagh is getting very good reviews for his performance in Mamet's extremely dark play.
R (again)
- Wednesday, July 23rd 2003 - 12:42:05 AM

Thanks, Georgiana, for the RHPOT event news. Can you almost *see* AR, swooping in on the helicopter?! (Check the newspage, if you missed this bit.)
Renie
(who will never ride in a helicopter, thanks anyway), Marin, CA - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 10:50:55 PM

Repeat after me "he is just a man" "he is just a man" Not someone to have a bumpersticker of "What would Alan Do" or to be called "Himself" like he has descended from Mount Olympus. What would Alan Do? he would tell us all to "bloody well get a life" more likely than not. Which is good advice. Enjoy his movies, go to his plays, enjoy the guestbook, but don't make him something that he is not.
ACC
- Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 07:43:36 PM

The right link:
Link to Picture of Alan with Gary Old man
Carole (tired and going to bed), - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 06:50:21 PM

Gosh I'm sorry! Thank you Madga. Yes, He looks a bit terrible. I think Gary Oldman will make a perfect Sirius Black.
Carole
Canada - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 06:42:33 PM

Actually, there's a double http on Carole's link so I removed it below. Good catch Carole; doesn't Oldman look like a wreck?
Magda
Canada - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 06:28:16 PM

Some lucky fan took this picture. You will find more details on the leaky-cauldron. Bye Bye!
Link to picture of Alan Rickman with Gary Oldman , <http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/foo>
Carole, Canada - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 06:12:50 PM

WWSD "What would Snape do? Scary.
lee
- Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 06:05:55 PM

I think one of the problems of being a huge fan of anyone is that you spend so much time watching the person that they really do become very familiar to you, though only superficially. When you think about it, you realize that you really don't know the person at all. But I agree with Ali-Pat that you can look at the course of AR's career, especially his theater work, and find some possible clues to what interests and inspires him. I admit my AR bookshelf is full, yet sometimes I'm not sure how much I want to know. It's not just trying to keep my obsession in check (enjoyed your post Mary from McHenry!). Before I only saw his characters, but now always see "Alan Rickman" first, with a familiarity that's increasingly jarring. But such is his talent that his characters soon take over and so I just keep on enjoying it all. But yeah, it's important to keep things real.
sonoma
usa - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 04:59:06 PM

Maybe we should market a "WWAD" bracelet. Any takers?

:)
Mary from McHenry
- Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 04:24:49 PM


Back from the occasional lurk. Read Joan's entry, read all the responses and am very impressed. I remember a time when there was a lot of negative energy floating around on this board - it's good to see that except for one pissy (sorry suzanne, you can edit that out) remark, everyone has been rather kind.

There are a number of reasons why I stopped regularly monitoring and posting to the board. One reason - probably familiar to many here - is the terrible temptation to obsess. When life is kicking you hard (or ignoring you utterly), when it seems like you have nothing going for you; and then that beautiful face and gorgeous voice float out at you in a darkened room, it feels like there's a world just a finger's-breadth away in which you can really, truly live. And that there's one person that can make all of "it" (whatever that is) seem real and true and right. Like you could finally, really be alive. And you begin to obsess.

Unfortunately, completely an illusion. Alan Rickman CAN'T validate our existence for us, even if we had personal access to him. It's an illusion that's very, very hard to surrender.

I imagine a number of GBers are wishing I'd just shut up and get off the board!!!! Sorry. Point is, many of us have moved on from unhealthy obsession. But certainly we can remember what it's like. I think the tolerance and the kindness shared among GBers do honor to Himself, as he is legendarily tolerant and kind to all of his fans. The occasional meanness dishonors him.

All right, I'm done. Thought I'd share that. Joan, you're at the crashing stage of obsession right now. You WILL GET THROUGH IT. Hang in there.
Mary from McHenry , <wildgeese@stans.netfoo>
- Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 04:22:38 PM


To Anne of Manhattan, the original text in french is:

'un grand nez est proprement l'indice d'un homme affable, bon, courtois, spirituel, libéral, courageux,..." Edmond Rostand.

I'm leaving on vacation tomorrow with my three kids. I'm going to miss the guestbook(I'm such an addict!). See you in two weeks. (Joan: I hope you are feeling better, please continue to write to us. We missed you!)
Carole
Quebec, Canada - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 03:17:24 PM


No, I never saw Alan smoke. I think he doesn't smoke at all! I just got back from Italy, where it was very hot. I spent all 5 days on the beach! Thursday I will leave for York! Did I miss anything?????
Stezi , <alan-ric@alan-rickman.nlfoo>
Holland - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 01:26:03 PM

Barbara TW--I noticed that item about Sharmon MacDonald on the news page, too! A small world indeed.

I feel compelled to comment on the idea of knowing AR through his work. This is possible to some extent, but you need to go beyond the films to get a better picture--reading the plays he has acted in is especially enlightening. While I do not claim any kind of mystical inner knowledge of The Man by doing all this reading, I have gained an appreciation for his range of acting experience and some insight into his taste for literature. And I do feel as though I understand him (and some of his seemingly odd role choices) better now.
Ali-Pat
Been so busy in Dayton, OH, USA - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 12:38:17 PM


You have a great looking site. Thanks for the opportunity to view it.
Rene , <majhoul_66@hotmail.comfoo>
Köln, NWS, Deutschland - Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 06:33:46 AM

Christine and anyone else confused by my badly-worded post of the other night: The person I was thinking of who "smokes like a chimney" was "never mind," not AR. (The general consensus seems to be that AR does not indulge, and I'm certainly in no position to know.)

Callette: You asked about the difference between "character" and "personality." My dictionary offers several definitions for each term, and some of the definitions are the same. The best I can do is, "character" has a moral dimension and goes deeper than "personality." Some personality traits, for example, are charm, wit, friendliness; and their opposites. Some character traits are kindness, loyalty, generosity, integrity; and their opposites. So it's possible for a person with a pleasing personality to be of bad character, and vice versa. The person who spoke of Willoughby's personality vs. Brandon's character (sorry, I've forgotten who posted that) had the right idea (though, personally, I disliked W from the get).

Aux Francaises (sorry, I can't do the cedilla): This is one of several English translations I found for a passage from Cyrano de Bergerac by Edmond Rostand: "A great nose indicates a great man - genial, courteous, intellectual, virile, courageous ..." Can anyone provide the same in the original language?

To whom it may concern: I have an extra tape of the Charlie Rose interview if anyone wants. Reception wasn't very good - picture snowy - sound OK. NTSC. Yours for the price of the tape plus postage. agilhuly "at" gibsondunn "dotcom"
Anne/Manhattan
- Tuesday, July 22nd 2003 - 04:09:34 AM


Pam: send in that recipe! It's bound to be a winner! I made & mailed out Ginger Snapes to GB-ers for the Rickman's birthday. The most fun was decorating them!
Carolyn, dear Carolyn
CO, uSA - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 07:30:59 PM

Hi Pam: If it's not too much trouble, could you post your "Ginger Snape" recipe here? I'd love to try it! (Actually, this would be a great item for Fausta's Recipe Page on the "Rickmanista Review.")
Kimberly
Michigan, USA - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 06:46:47 PM

Oh, I love Ginger Snape cookies! (#) (#) Very cute Pam.
lee
- Monday, July 21st 2003 - 06:35:44 PM

Nice post, ACC.
If anyone wants to see a movie showing the power of one person's words to cause chaos and destruction in the lives of others, I recommend "The Fisher King" with Robin Williams and Jeff Bridges. Wonderful film, ultimately hopeful and uplifting.

Joan, many moons ago on this GB, someone said something (and I'm really paraphrasing and drawing from memory here) like: You should appreciate the qualities in Alan that you admire (kindness, respect, loyalty, creativity, etc.) and let them INSPIRE you to ASPiRe to be the best you that you can be. Feel better, Joan, and know that you are still welcome and wanted here. :-)
Christine
USA - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 06:23:44 PM


Has everyone else read the NEWS page?

Kiera Knightley is Sharman MacDonald's daughter.... how 'bout that!

Strains of It's a Small World are heard in the air....


Barbara the Wallpaperer
- Monday, July 21st 2003 - 05:42:46 PM


Sonoma, I think I need to watch "Dark Harbor" again, which I haven't done in ages. I actually got that transcription from another person and have never checked its accuracy against the film. Guess that's something I should do, especially since I think I've posted it here twice! LoL

Glad to hear there are only minor discrepancies. I would be quite embarrassed to think I've been posting that "poem" with major omissions!
Kimberly
Who would love to read the novel, script, screenplay, too!, Michigan, USA - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 05:12:56 PM


Hi all, Not sure if anyone knows but as I was reading the web site www.wizardnews.com I came across an interesting articlr that stated the trailer for the New HP movie Prisoner of Azkaban will be shown on November 14th 2003 during the movie Looney Tunes Back in action. (I am sure it will be shown with others too but the kids will probably be seeing this one for sure) Our library is having people submit entries from their favorite books and characters to make up a cookbook and I thought I would enter my Ginger Snape cookie recipe! Anyway, have a good one all-- Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 04:58:09 PM

Kimberly, I noticed a few tiny differences in your extract from Dark Harbor from what AR says in the movie and was wondering if you got it from a novel, screenplay, or other source? Probably just wishful thinking on my part, but there's a movie I'd like to read. Anyway, thanks for posting it, I love that speech.
sonoma
usa - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 04:49:32 PM

I could not remain indifferent for this one: Joan and Everyone Else, I would like to add my quarter to the discussion on celebrity and contact/distance. In my past, I went through an episode of celebrity, and my experiences were such that upon my arrival to the United States I did everything to remain perfectly invisible. Which has a serious drawback of not being able to attract prompt attention, people and resources to my work as we speak. I was not an actor, more like a writer and, unwillingly and unwittingly, a religious icon. All the same, if you guys wish to hear how a person on the other side of celebrity feels, and what it is like, and so forth, I will be more then happy to share. If it would help. If you curious about the kind of work I do, please come visit www.unrequitedlight.org. There is an AR-related graphic there.
Victoria Urgant , <victoria_urgant@comcast.netfoo>
- Monday, July 21st 2003 - 04:35:05 PM

Joan's entry was full of disappointment, vulnerability, rejection, depression and pain. Feelings all of us have, even Alan Rickman. I don't know what is going on in her life, but it certainly is not helpful to call her odd, etc. I would hate to think that something I wrote helped someone "go over the edge", so to speak. Joan, if I could say one thing I would recommend a good support person to talk this through and suggest that showing the all too public internet your raw open wounds can encourage people who prey on our weakness and vulnerabilities. Don't leave yourself so open, love. Share those feelings in private emails, not in such an open forum. I would hate to see you get hurt.
ACC
- Monday, July 21st 2003 - 04:10:43 PM

Hi!
I watched Deathtrap last evening. I recommend this film to anybody who's seen Dark Harbor Deathtrap is a 1981 film, starring Michael Caine, Christopher Reeve (it's hard to watch him) and Dyan Cannon. It's directed by Sidney Lumet. It was adapted from Ira Levin's long running Broadway play. Ira Levin wrote "The Stepford Wives", as well. Anyway - the first act of Deathtrap is Dark Harbor all over but with more humour. I saw this film in the theater when it was released and I really appreciated this film alot more after seeing Dark Harbor

additionally, I would love to see AR play Sidney on the stage!
great entertainment.
Chandra
NC, - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 03:10:19 PM


Thanks Kimberly!
Julia
- Monday, July 21st 2003 - 02:49:54 PM

Not only does Alan not look like a smoker, he doesn't smell like one either and that's the most important indicator. I'm a former smoker myself, and I can't imagine NOT wanting a cigarette right after a performance. Yet he smelled totally smoke-free. Not just once, but all 5 times I met him. I agree that Joan's post is very odd indeed. There must be something much worse than not meeting Alan Rickman bothering her. Sometimes I get a little wistful too looking at autographs and photos...remembering him last summer and wishing it could happen all over again. But then I just take a deep breath and move on. There are more important things in life.
Tami
Notre Dame, - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 02:16:57 PM

Hi ACC:

Thanks for mentioning Alan's quote about "If you want to know me, just look at my work." (Paraphrasing here.)

My feeling is that he meant not just his roles, but the work as a whole. The parts of the sum equal the whole, so to speak. (Guess I'm in an italicizing mood today! LOL) In other words, the entire play or film reflects his sensibilities on various themes. He likes wickedly edgy humor (Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, Private Lives, Lucky Chance); he cares about Human Rights, and political freedoms: Closet Land, Commitments, Bob Roberts; and, he sometimes just simply gets caught up in projects due to the mad scheming of his friends: Judas Kiss. (I have a vision of Emma Thompson prodding him: Come on, Alan, it will be fun.)

He also uses his celebrity and bankability to assist others in the business: Kevin Smith with "Dogma" and Tim Robbins with "Bob Roberts." Both have said his presence in their respective projects helped them obtain funds to produce their films.

So, in the end, I think you have to look at the message of the entire piece of work; not just his role.
Kimberly
Michigan, USA - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 02:07:53 PM


When Alan Rickman said --paraphrase-- if you want to know who I am, look at my work-- I thought "well, what the h--- does that mean? Take Closetland, Murder Obliquely and Dark Harbor, you have one sick little puppy. Take AABA Le Liassons Dangerouses {SP}Barchester Chronicles and RHPOT, then you had better hide your daughters, wives, sisters and your money. If you want a fun relationship at the cost of a hellish life, then take Elliot Chase, David Friedman and Ed. {Starving and wearing clothes from rubbish bins is a lot more fun in theory than reality} Colonel Brandon would be lovely, but he would be really really old and probably not very liberated {being a cossetted jewel is nice for a while, but for the rest of ones' life? Hmmm-I had an exhausting work week, would like to try that for awhile.] Alan Rickman is a lot of things and the choices he makes do say something about him, but he is not his work. He is a lot more than that, and the mystery of that will keep some people coming back for more for a looooooong time, methinks.
ACC
- Monday, July 21st 2003 - 01:23:40 PM

Julia: Here's the poem from "Dark Harbor" for you:

You know,
I look at you and it's funny:,
You don't remind me of myself exactly,
But, you remind me of a certain time,
I remember what I used to think love was then;
That it was like fireworks, the explosions, the highlights.
But, it is not.

It's time:
To go through the seasons together.
Through change.
Through the ups and downs.
To be able to look at your beloved and say:
"We did that together as one,
We chose each other above all things."
That's love.
It's unexplainable.
It's a secret
That can only be known
Once you've done
The time.

"Dark Harbor" David Weinberg

Kimberly
Michigan, USA - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 01:09:51 PM


dear joan, it's obvious here that there are a lot of people concerned about what you're going through, a lot of good people. look at it this way, if you were a caring famous person such as alan is, would you want someone so unhappy who loved you? i'm sure if alan knew how unhappy you are he would feel bad. after all his gift is to make people happy and take there minds off their problems for even just a little while. please be happy. sometimes it takes a lot of work and practice to learn how to make yourself happy. just thank God there is a place where we can all share our little passions for alan and not feel so all alone!:) :) :) p.s. we love you!
sceezer
- Monday, July 21st 2003 - 01:05:43 PM

Slightly O/T - In the course of redesigning the CPP website I propose to discontinue the No Sound Page alternative. All I can tell is that the visitor numbers for that page appear to make it redundant, while current technology has made the main page more reliable and a backup duplicate page unnecessary. If anyone has any fervent views please email me.


Claire
- Monday, July 21st 2003 - 12:35:26 PM


Dearest Alan: Perhaps you are warmed by the knowledge that one small woman/fey is charmed by your existence?
Sandy
Canada - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 09:34:44 AM

Joan, when you're in need of healing, visualize the soothing powers of warm white energy flowing from your healthy parts to your injured parts in mind and body both. Let the centre of you be the centre of the Universe...be peaceful, well and strong.
If unable or unwilling to do the yogic/meditative movement, a cup of tea - strong, hot, and sweet (like Alan) :) and the total immersion of self into a good book may help. I can disappear into Edgar Allen Poe (some will say stay there).
May the warm white energy release joy within us all.
Sandy
A patch of green, Canada - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 09:33:22 AM

A rare request: Could someone please re-post that speech from DkH, about love being time? Thanks!
Julia
Calgary, Canada - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 08:38:40 AM

Kimberly, you are just a font of information (or is that fount?)! Thanks for the tip on CME and the answer to who wrote that mysterious Nijinsky play.

Joan, be of good cheer. A person can keep themselves very busy and satisfied just appreciating AR from afar and knowing him from his work.
Ali-Pat, back home but still decompressing
Dayton, OH, USA - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 06:37:46 AM


Hi Joan, I was a fan of a stage actor (not AR) many years ago, and whenever I saw his plays, I wrote his agent and made comments on his plays, suggested new ideas, roles which suit him, what his fans want him to do on the stage, etc. And guess what? This worked! He applied one of my suggestions on one of his stages! It was a great surprise to me because he *never* replied to my letters. Then I realized that he knew there was a fan (me) who supported him a lot. This strategy might work to AR! LOL. :-)
Hiromi
Saitama, JAPAN - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 04:35:10 AM

Some DVD News: "Close My Eyes" will be released on dvd on October 14, 2003 in Region 1 format (US/CANADA). It's available for pre-order at Amazon.com and BarnesandNoble.com.

I hope lots of extras are included!!
Kimberly
Michigan, USA - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 04:23:10 AM


About AR's physical features and being a fan: I seem to be younger than the rest of you, but I prefer older men. I think that many men just grow more handsome as they grow older. Men of my age often look too, erm, smooth and boyish. And I love extraordinary noses, I think that a large aquilinian (is that a real word - hope so) nose actually makes a man attractive! And yes, I adore AR. I love the work he does, but I have never really felt the desparate need to meet him. I quite symphathize with his need of privacy. In fact I quite esteem it. There are so many actors who are all over the media and basking in the attention of their fans and so on... it just screams egoism. But I can also symphathize with those who really would like to know him better... but he once said that all of him is in the work, did he not? Just keep watching his works over and over. I do. BTW, in my language there is only one word for both "character" and "personality". Would someone explain the subtle difference?
Callette
Under a great tree green - Monday, July 21st 2003 - 03:26:49 AM

Oh Joan, don't go all Nurse Betty on us ..OK! I like to think there is Alan Rickman the Actor and there is the many characters he illuminates that have there own life on the internet. I will probably never meet A.R. (his loss. lol) yet the one in my head is a very nice hard working actor well adjusted enough to find better things to do than run away from me (Gee poor Jimmy Stewart..Jim Carey is pretty scary even when he is normal.lol)(Don't worry Mr Janine keeps me grounded in Melbourne)

Funny how your obsessions can get to you at times. i had a serious whine today to a very nice friend (waves to lurker who should be at work) about the fear that JK Rowling never finishers her work and we are left wondering...aaaahhhh the horror!

Cheer up. Let us wish for a long happy and productive (acting wise) life for AR than we can all keep a bit of our illusions in our heads. Maybe it is not having the real A.R. in our lives that is important yet sharing the value of his work and getting to know each other in places.. like this that is important.
Janine
- Monday, July 21st 2003 - 01:41:35 AM


sonoma: Yes, you are right. I meant "around AR's mouth" not "mouse"! How silly of me! Thanks, sonoma.
Hiromi , <hiromitanazawa@yahoo.co.ukfoo>
Saitama, JAPAN - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 11:20:40 PM

I think that there are boundaries in any profession. Doctors do not treat their families, therapists do not date their patients, etc etc etc. Mr. Rickman is aware that many of his fans have fantasies about him and perhaps see him in a glamourised way, and he would never take advantage of his position by encouraging an unrealistic expectation or relationship. I believe that if he senses such a response for a female fan, then he distances himself so that he doesn't "feed the flames", so to speak. I don't think he means to be rejecting, but it reminds me of a story Jim Carrey told about Jimmy Stewart. Jim Carrey idolized Jimmy Stewart, which is understandable, and one time when Jimmy was giving a talk in church, Jim Carrey came up to him afterward and was so effusive in his appreciation that Jimmy Stewart just stammered something and backed away. Probably terrified the guy, but a thought flashed thru Jim Carrey's mind "thou shalt have no other Gods but me". Perhaps God's way of saying "keep your perspective" So Joan, enjoy his work, if he is in a play, get your program or whatever signed, write him a letter if you wish, but don't expect him to offer anything back but courtesy, gratitude and talent. With as much talent as the guy has, that offering is still something, don't you think?
A Concerned Citizen
- Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 10:25:36 PM

I'm sorry, but doesn't it occur to anyone to tell Joan that she's acting a bit odd?? For heaven's sake!!! Alan Rickman is an actor!! A crush is a fine thing, but keep it in perspective!
Uh, Normal???
- Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 09:58:47 PM

Chandra--my lovely grandmother had wrinkles on her lips, but she never, ever smoked a cigarette. I think they are just a sign of aging.
Lurker
- Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 09:09:09 PM

I will add that, when I felt as you did, I would try to shift the perspective of the poem below from him to me. think of something courageous or praiseworthy that you did and imagine the poem read in *your* honor.

I now return you to your regular Rickman droo-, er, discussion. ;)
Ann W
Az, USA - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 07:33:00 PM


Chandra -- great choice!! :) From Anne Brontë: Life seems more sweet that Thou didst live And men more true that Thou wert one; Nothing is lost that Thou didst give, Nothing destroyed that Thou hast done. Going back under my rock, Ann W
Ann W
AZ, USA - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 05:58:24 PM

Hi Joan - I thought of you as I was driving to work.

Here I go again with the gloopy song lyrics, but not being a poet - I thought you might like this.

Why Should I Cry For You
Sting
The Soul Cages

Under the dog star sail
Over the reefs of moonshine
Under the skies of fall
North, north west, the stones of Faroe

Under the Arctic fire
Over the seas of silence
Hauling on frozen ropes
For all my days remaining
But would north be true?

All colours bleed to red
Asleep on the ocean's bed
Drifting in empty seas
For all my days remaining

But would north be true?
Why should I?
Why should I cry for you?

Dark angels follow me
Over a godless sea
Mountains of endless falling,
For all my days remaining,

What would be true?

Sometimes I see your face,
The stars seem to lose their place
Why must I think of you?
Why must I?
Why should I?

Why should I cry for you?
Why would you want me to?
And what would it mean to say,
That, "I loved you in my fashion"?

What would be true?
Why should I?
Why should I cry?
Chandra
NC, - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 05:31:21 PM


Joan, I guess the thing to remember is that it's Alan Rickman's job to be in front of people, and boy is he good at it and we love him for it, but it is just his job. Fans go along with it, and I guess the more the better for an actor, but I often wonder what it must be like to have so many total strangers wanting more of you than you could possibly give! I'm a huge fan, but it's important to remember he's just a human being like the rest of us. When I start to get carried away with things, I remind myself of how much pure enjoyment I've gotten from his performances, as well as how many epiphanies I've had about myself and life in general, and my only hope is that whoever he is, he's a very happy and content man. I will always be grateful to him though I know that the only way I can thank him is to always wish him well. But I think it's enough. I do think it's great that you can be so open about your feelings. But whenever I get sad, I always find it's because I'm only looking inside--remember to look outside, too--it helps!

Hiromi, you did mean "mouth" and not "mouse," right?
sonoma
usa - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 11:51:15 AM


Hi Joan, Hope you are feeling a little better by the time you read all the messages of encouragement on the GB and that you had a nice walk in the lovely sunshine today. I know how you feel as I was a Beatle fan from day one (shows how old I am-yikes!) and I loved them all so much they were almost like family. As I got older and there were others I liked, I vowed I wouldnt let myself get that deep again and try to keep everything on an even keel. I know its not easy with AR but as everyone says, try to do other things too and go out with friends etc. I was quite young when the Beatle Mania happened (early teens) and I know how it feels, believe me. That would be great to meet AR but if I don't I still can enjoy his movies and all the talk about him here on the GB. Anyway, hope you are feeling a little better and take care, Pam
Pam H.
Massachusetts, USA - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 11:48:58 AM

To Snape's star pupil: Don't worry for the double-post, It happened to me too.(quite often actually)

I read this in the Leaky Cauldron:

"Early word is that the PoA "footage"shown at Comic Con wasn't actual footage at all: It featured Dan Radcliffe and Alfonso Cuaron talking briefly about PoA. All they really talked about was the cast and the new things appearing such as "quidditch in the rain and hippogriffs".
Carole
Canada - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 10:49:56 AM


Double deleted.
Suz (D.o.C.)

Argh!!! Sorry for the double-post, it told me it wasn't responding! Sorry
Snape's Star Pupil
- Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 10:06:27 AM

I've been lurking here a while and posted or 2 or 3 times before but I was judt wondering if anyone knows if AR has a model of himself at Madame Tussauds? I would guess no, but can anyone confirm this? Thank you!
Snape's Star Pupil
- Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 09:59:17 AM

Dear Joan, please don't be so depressed! Sometimes it's hard to go back to our ordinary life. I understand that ( It happened to me too!) , but we have to keep in mind that what we fantasized about him and what's he really like are two different world. We all want to see him and know him better( God knows I want that too). We have to keep faith, life is sometimes cruel but sometimes surprisingly wonderful . Who knows maybe in a near future you will be able to see him , he seems to go to your country very often . Keep faith Joan! In the meantime occupied yourself, try new hobbies , go out with your friends, continue to write to us too. It's the only way to beat depression! If you need to talk more about this feel free to write to me.
Carole , <carolegag70@hotmail.comfoo>
Canada - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 09:17:05 AM

Dear Joan!

Please cheer up! I have been suffering this affliction for three years now ( though many here have been stung for much longer...) and I do understand how you feel!

I met AR at the stage door/ Private Lives /NY last year and he was dead tired and a bit frosty and I did feel like a nuisance to him and all that but.... after I got over that, I realized that it must have been so shocking, disconcerting and even scary to find eighty-some women waiting for him after 2 exausting hours on stage! I read somewhere that he felt it strange that one moment he was the guy loading up the dishwasher at home and the next, dozens of people were staring at him on the street! So, I am trying to excuse his natural defensiveness, I quess. But as to whether he cares about and appreciates his fans........ I can honestly say that he does! Especially now that he has mellowed with age, he understands his debt to us! LOL ( I like the way that sounds! HA! Anyway......) If you read the many stage door accounts from last year, London as well as NY, you will find that he is patient, kind and generous to his fans. Now as for capturing his heart on a personal level! All bets are off for it was claimed many moons ago! lol All the better, I say! Such competition could get UGLY! :~) SO, dear Joan..... go out today and enjoy the fine weather and just think how ( frosty as his demeanor may seem ) inately grateful AR is to YOU and all here for his success and prosperity!
Constance , <madaboutron4@yahoo.comfoo>
Cary, NC, USA - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 08:36:18 AM


Hi, I was just reading the GB and saw Joans posting. What happened Joan? I hate to see anyone upset like this. Maybe you can take a nice walk outside or do something else for while. Try to think of other things but I know you will always have AR in the back of your mind. Maybe in a month or so or in the near future, you can watch one of his tapes again like S & S and learn to re-love the man as an actor. Sometimes it is hard for us to realize that they only play parts in a movie, that it isnt real life. My friend from Scotland years ago was in love with Leonard Nimoy from Star Trek. She became pen friends with his parents, who lived in Milton, MA. (just outside Boston) and I had to drive in to their apartment when she visited me..They were very nice people and gave her his phone number in California (of all things-imagine wqhen he talked with his mother again!)) and she called him--I listened to0 (we were both young-in our early 20;s) and later she got over him and just enjoyed his movies etc. Try to see the sunny bright side again Joan and I wish you much happiness in your quest to find it.. Take care-it is a very nice day-sunny up here in Massachusetts too..Think Ill go for a nice walk today! Pam H.
Pam H.
Massachusetts, - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 07:49:42 AM

Sue, Sonoma: Thank you very much! Sue, thank you for correcting my misunderstanding! I saw a shadow around his mouse. Is it called a "five-o'clock shdow" in English? The photo: http://www.alan.subito.cc/ Anywway, it's always great to visit the GB because many AR fans are so helpful!
Hiromi
Saitama, JAPAN - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 07:39:19 AM

Heartsick. If I saw AR today, I wouldn't look twice. Why not let him be the stranger he wants to be? Why meet him? He won't sign my book, he won't answer personal questions, or notice what I wear, he reads his fan mail, all the outpouring of affection, but I don't have not one shread of who he is personally. He gets bored with actors who talk about themselves, why would he be interested in me? What could I posssibly offer him, he who wants nothing.

He's living in a house surrounded by high, very high, walls. Not physical walls, but a wall of secrecy around his heart. Clearly, he has put up a "Do not trespass" sign.

It's pathetic, sitting here on a sunny, beautiful summer Sunday, crying over someone who would rather I just go away, cause he wants to be private, private, private. It's like mourning the death of a loved one, the real Alan Rickman is inaccesible to me. It would be unbearable to meet him and be "pushed away". I don't know what to do. Crying too much.
Joan
Pa, USA - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 06:43:02 AM


About smoking - He probably did and doesn't anymore. Alot of people smoked in the 60s and 70s and quit - some points - (A) He holds a cigarette in his mouth (in Dark Harbor, I think) like he knows what he's doing. (B) Smoking is known to "deepen" the voice. Lauren Bacall and Bea Arthur (Maude) are two who attribute smoking to their distinctive voices. (C) But nobody ever sees this man smoking at social events, after a play, or paparazzied in a market -- and if he did smoke "like a chimney" - [it's a bad addiction, folks] somebody would have a picture of him sucking one down. [Stezi met him at a party... Stezi, if you are reading this, did you see him have a cigarette?] (D) *He doesn't have the telltale vertical creasing at his upper lip - a smoker his age would have it - His face is filling out as he ages, at his age, the smoking would be affecting his appearance, thinning his face - I would think he'd have more wrinkles.
Smoking does things to your body after you turn 40 that are not pretty, and I just don't see the signs of a old smoker here.
Chandra
NC, - Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 06:29:28 AM

I can't be sure, but i am pretty sure He Who Speaks doesn't smoke - you can tell whether actors smoke or not as to when they're acting if they breathe in the smoke - i've studied Him long and hard and i think he doesn't.
Jizel
- Sunday, July 20th 2003 - 04:45:14 AM

you know what they say, big nose big heart
sceezer
uza baby - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 10:06:13 PM

Hi all, If anyone gets the chance after reading the HP book Order of the Phoenix, try to reserve the audio tapes by Jim Dale! He is fantastic and does the voices so well. My son and I were lucky enough to get the CD set (23 CD's!) and have 3 more to listen to tomorrow before they go back to the Library on Monday. As I was listening to the tapes and after reading the book, I thought wouldnt that be interesting to see a HP book about the friends Sirius, James and Lilly Potter, Lupin, etc. and of course Severus Snape as students at hogwarts and how their characters helped influence their adult lives etc. I thought Johnny Depp would make a a very dashing young Snape! (He was excellent in Pirates of the Caribbean-all that piratey stuff and swashbuckling-it was excellent) As I watched though, I thought how he could play Snapes younger self! Who knows... If anyone is interested, on August 21st, the new book AR an unauthorized biography is coming out..should be a good read, I cant wait... Thanks also to Suzanne for this wonderful site, and all the wonderful FOF contributors. I love all the stories and love reading about the sheriff from Magda and of course Lees excellent story about Severus and Gwen True Loves Curse.. and all the others that have written about the colonel etc. Keep up the good work--Have a nice evening or day depending on your time zone.. Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 08:47:36 PM

Dear hearts, the only "knighthood" that matters is seen when he edits someone's screenplay & uses his "name" to get it produced. And talks to strangers about the ins and outs of the acting biz. Although reading the *comic* monologue as the Yorkshire tour guide (who couldn't care less abt. the Brontes' works) ofr a birthday-benefit show is a close second. Sorry I missed that. :)
Ann W.
AZ, USA - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 06:55:07 PM

Donna: I felt that AR was underappreciated in the uSA until I started carrying a keychain with Mesmer's photo on it [present from a friend in England]. Everywhere I go, people are eager to tell me what a fine actor he is and which role they particularly enjoyed. pssst...it's usually Nottingham or Col. Brandon

Christine, I'm so sorry to hear about your bunny. I know how hard it is to lose a little beastie you loved.
Carolyn, dear Carolyn , <Hinges of Hadesfoo>
CO, uSA - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 04:05:43 PM


Anne/Manhattan -- me again... after rereading your post in question I'm wondering if I misunderstood... were you talking about someone other than AR? I don't want to start any false rumors. Help!
Christine
USA - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 03:35:35 PM

Yes, yes, that's it! Thanks Claire! Although I realize now after looking at it again, that if I float my mouse over the pix, Suzanne has given the photo credit : 'Picture of Rickman from GQ magazine 9-91'. I have always loved that COAT! Happy Weekend everyone!
donna
- Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 03:20:04 PM

Anne/Manhattan -- Thanks for the bunny link -- what a cutie.
I really wanted to ask you about the comment you made that AR "smokes like a chimney". Do you know this for sure? I have read that Rima was a heavy smoker (supposedly past tense), and when someone asked a fellow actor about whether Alan smoked, they were told that he's a "social smoker" (whatever that means). I've never seen a photo of him smoking except for a part (Elyot and the Interrogator come to mind) and have never seen mention of it in any article I've read about him. Distressing news, if true.
Christine
USA - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 03:16:04 PM

Holy crap, I love Alan so much. Between his velvety voice, his fly away blonde hair, and the way he can capture you in with every word he says, he is the best actor I have ever seen on the silver screen. If I could meet him, I'd give him a hug and never let go. I'm not kidding.
Liz , <moaningmyrtle24@popmail.comfoo>
Montrose, NY, USA - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 02:55:59 PM

The site lead picture comes from the GQ September 1991 Article Rickman's Worth


Claire
- Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 01:50:14 PM


Suzanne, just wanted to come out of 'lurker' mode and tell you what a fantastic site you have. Been a fan for quite a few years, and have always felt he is terribly, terribly unappreciated in this country . My mentioning of his name, is always greeted with..who? oh, yes, right, Die Hard bad guy, sure.. (arrrgggghhh!) I have always considered the pic you have of AR on the home page as one of my faves. Racking my brain to recall where I have seen it...magazine article? Anyway , lovely, lovely site, I enjoy reading all the posts.
donna , <cyclechik63@yahoo.comfoo>
MO, USA - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 01:27:41 PM

Regarding a knighthood, maybe I'm being cynical, but I always thought people didn't get honoured just because they were good at what they did or did a lot for charity, but because either: they brought a lot of revenue into the UK like the Beatles, designers, scientists (think tax revenue on patents!) or: were wanted out of the way of what they were currently doing because it was someone else's turn and getting a "gong" was the only way they would go quietly eg very senior civil servants. AR doesn't fit into either of those categories, he is just supremely good at what he does, although in time he may well fit into category 1. Tony Blair is trying to open the system up with members of the public able to nominate people to be honoured, although that only seems to apply to lesser honours like MBE, etc. Still, not too late to start a campaign for the New Years Honours List, although I think you have to be a Brit to nominate someone.
Juliet , <vatman@tinyworld.co.ukfoo>
Up in't North where men are men (and usually strong featured!), UK - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 01:00:21 PM

I don't know, when I hear about some of the people getting knighthoods these days, they just don't seem that special anymore. Still, I think Sir Alan Rickman has a nice ring to it!

Hiromi, thanks for bringing up Raffaela's site. I haven't been there for a while and forgot how great it is!
sonoma
usa - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 11:04:54 AM


Hiromi, the second from the right on the top line of page one doesn't have a moustache! But that one is I think one of his early agent pix. I saw it a while ago on an agency page archives (don't ask me where!!LOL)
Sue
- Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 08:41:07 AM

The person I always think of where Knighthoods are concerned is Mick Jagger. Having played the rebel for years, he apparently let it be known he was very keen to get a knighthood (probably cos Paul McCartney had oneLOL). Having been awarded it he has now shown extremely bad manners by not finding time to turn up and get dubbed!! And that was about a year ago!!He is not exactly renowned for his charity work like Elton John so I don't know why he got one!!
sue
Iwouldn'twantoneanywaylol - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 08:30:43 AM

AR and Knighthood

Oh, good! I'm not the only one who thinks he likely turned it down.

I'm part of a re-enactment society, where we have various "Knighthoods" and there are people who turn them down. There are also people who simply let it "be known" that they are not interested in the ranks so don't bother offering.

I suspect AR is the latter kind of person.... the anti-thesis of Michael Caine.... :D
Barbara the Wallpaperer
- Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 07:52:38 AM


It's the Voice that's his best feature - not that there's anything wrong with the Nose. If only he had some hair on his chest . . . well, nobody's perfect. (Except - never mind! - and he isn't, either - he smokes like a chimney.)

My theory about Pixie Noses is that even when a movie or TV show isn't aimed at a young audience - and most seem to be, or maybe I'm just a grumpy old fart - too many decisions get made by young network suits and studio execs who don't know from acting, writing or anything else not taught in business school, and whose idea of What a Girl Wants is the boy voted Most Popular in high school, or the guy whose pecs are the envy of all at the gym.

If a young actor's nose is non-pixie, his teeth not straight, his abs unsculpted, he gets to be the bad guy or the best friend or the plucky comic relief, but he doesn't get a shot at the hero/romantic lead in a non-indie film. An actor old enough to be of interest to a middle-aged woman, unless he's one of the few who've managed to hold onto leading-man status acquired decades ago, gets to do supporting/character roles and steal the film from the overpaid lead, unless the younger man realizes what's happening and does a Costner on him.

Thank heaven for theater!
Anne/Manhattan
- Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 07:51:24 AM


Constance: Hi! Thank you for your quick reply! But, the photo you mentioned seems to be different from the one I mentionedcc. The photo: http://www.alan.subito.cc/ is placed on the second from the right on the top line on page 1 of Raffaela's site and the caption reads gUnknown Sourceh. It is a black and white photo in which AR looks very young with mustache. Thanks for your quick reply anyway. I am pleasantly surprised that you called me "Hiromi-san." (in Japanese)
Hiromi
Saitama, JAPAN - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 07:02:47 AM

ACC - Have you not considered that AR may well have been offered an MBE/OBE/Knighthood/"whathaveyou" and turned it down!?! People do you know! Of course they do not reveal who has turned them down but occasionally it does come out. Delia Smith, for instance, Britains leading tv cook, author, and huge Brit favourite was apparently offered a Dame *hood* or whatever it is(LOL)and declined as she does not believe in the Honour system.

Course, on the other hand he may have been offered an MBE and be holding out for a knighthood!!!LOL!!
Sue
England - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 06:46:20 AM


Link fixed and double deleted.
Suz (D.o.C.)

Sorry Hiromi-san! Looks like my link thingie did not work but look at Raffaela's site under pictures and on the first page, towards the bottom you will find a pic of the evening/event. When you click on the pic it will enlarge and there will be the caption I quoted (twice!)where you will learn the source of the pic you love.
Constance, yet again..........
- Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 06:19:23 AM

Hiromi: Is this the pic you are refering to ? pic

It reads at the top of the page;" From the Evening Standard Awards, 1993. Photo by Universal Pictorial Press & Agency Ltd."

Hope this helps and hope I did the link correctly! He is lovely in that one!
Constance
- Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 06:15:34 AM


Oh and yes, his nose is definately his most beautiful feature! But, as I have noticed in comparing other full-nosed men......, it is the combination of nose plus lovely, sensuous, curling lips that completes the magic! Must go lie down now..........
Constance (again)
- Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 05:58:28 AM

Hi. Does anyone know the source of the following photo? http://www.alan.subito.cc/ Although "Unknown source" is written here, my friend who is also a huge fan of AR loves this photo and is curious about the source of it, so I thought someone here on the GB can be of a help to us.
Hiromi Tanazawa , <hiromitanazawa@yahoo.co.ukfoo>
Saitama, JAPAN - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 05:57:25 AM

Good Morning! It has been ages since I have posted here! I was just wondering if anyone here, knew what OUR man is doing lately? Is he working on the next HP flick? Writng a script? Or just resting up after a wild year on the stage with Private Lives? Can you all believe that just a year ago we were all abuzz, exchanging Stage Door stories of encounters with AR? London stories! New York stories! Man! That was fun! (sigh) Sorry for waxing sentimental, I just really miss him and NEWS! Surely, we must have spies out there!

My Spatula is collecting dust! Help! ;~)
Constance , <madaboutron4@yahoo.comfoo>
NC, USA - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 05:53:03 AM


Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings but it seem the opening of Love Actually has been pushed back two weeks (to November 21) and that it will have a limited opening - only the top 25 markets. (Found this at Comingsoon.net)
VH
Ohio, USA - Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 05:49:43 AM

OFF TOPIC, to Christine: My condolences on the loss of your bunny. You might like to look at this (if I haven't forgotten how to do links): Oolong the Pancake Rabbit. Oolong was a Japanese rabbit who passed away in January at the ripe old age of 8-1/2. His owner doesn't have much English but he's taken hundreds of beautiful, charming and/or funny photographs of his pet and his site is a wonderful tribute to a much-loved bunny. The link takes you to an English-language page that explains about the Japanese site, and at the bottom of that page is a link to the Japanese site.
Anne/Manhattan
- Saturday, July 19th 2003 - 12:19:48 AM

Right. Now Pierce Brosnan has been given an OBE. It's not fair, do you hear me Queen? Rickman deserves it!
ACC
- Friday, July 18th 2003 - 09:45:28 PM

For my money, Alan Rickman's nose is his best asset. I love it -- perfect fit. God smiled on AR's parents to give him such beauty.
Juliana
- Friday, July 18th 2003 - 09:16:52 PM

Right on, Joan. No pixie nose on me, and I happen to like Alan's nose, as well as Dustin Hoffman's.

Barbara the Wallpaperer, may I say that your poem/song on Flights of Fancy July 8 struck a chord with me, at least the first part (Harry) and the Chorus. I lost my sweet bunny rabbit to an illness last weekend. My heart and my apartment feel very empty. It's been a rough week.
Christine
USA - Friday, July 18th 2003 - 07:58:54 PM


Joan --

Willoughby's personality vs. Brandon's character

Great distinction!
Barbara the Wallpaperer
- Friday, July 18th 2003 - 07:13:58 PM


Hey Joan!! -- My kids tell their friends that I look like Snape. And I do, It's kinda wierd, but I'm almost 6 ft tall, I'm of Welsh/Irish heritage and have a largish nose, stringy hair (it's highlighted) and light grey eyes. I smile a little more than he does, granted but I do scowl and Yea, I'm a woman.

-- I'm going to order black contacts - I already have the black robe and suit -- I'll put a temporary black rinse in my hair and for Halloween, I'll be the Professor. My kid's school has a Halloween party - I figure I'll go there and scare the little snots silly. -- I promise that I'll learn to post photos by then so you-all will see one or two. Just to prove that small noses aren't everything!
Chandra
NC, - Friday, July 18th 2003 - 07:05:38 PM


joan i saw alan in a dream too, he said he'd take me on if he could keep rima, hhhmmm. i'll have to think about that. :) :)
sceezer
- Friday, July 18th 2003 - 05:52:51 PM

In the USA, the celebrities seem to have a requirement to have a small nose. So, even adult men have a "boyish" look. I heard Brad Pitt complain about his "pixie nose" (his words). In AABA, Georgina Cates' child-like face, including small nose, emphasizes her inexperienced character, Stella. Yet, could she play a woman with authority, and not be seen as juvenile. I see men in movies who have that cute, boyish look. Was OK in high school to have a "cute" guy, but maybe it was time for me, as well as others, to take an interest in mature, masculine men who were not "prettier than me".

Thus, we have Alan Rickman. Deep man's voice, adult face, tall, and no "pixie nose". If you don't have the currently "in-style" facial features, you get rejected. It's not fair, but it happens with regularity. Models often have to get their nose "done". Heck, in some drawings the face isn't even given a nose! It would be nice to see more women look "womanly" and less "girlish", as well as men who look more "adult" and less "boyish". Certainly, keep those adults with their child-like, angelic faces, but does everybody have to look alike?
Joan
- Friday, July 18th 2003 - 05:23:12 PM


Lisa, St.Paul: Marianne was dazzled by Willoby's personality, but took longer to see the steady burning love of Brandon's character. Common error. It seems everybody likes the Colonel in this present time, though!
Joan
- Friday, July 18th 2003 - 11:56:31 AM

possible spoiler. I've only just finished sence and sencebility and I can hardly watch the pain in Conol Brandon's eyes. How could Maryanne ignore his love for so long? I know if AR looked at me with such longing I would just melt. Then when he realizes she dosen't return his love yet, you can feel his pain. One look into those eyes at that moment would shatter your everlasting soul into a thousand burning pieces. What an actor. I wish I was privilaged enough to see such an actor on the stage. In the little experiance I've had in the theater, seeing Alan Rickman on stage, in person, would be like obtaining the Holy Grail for myself and some of my partners in theater. If Mr. Rickman ever reads any of these I hope he catches only the good ones. Viva le cinima!
Lisa , <stargirl@aol.comfoo>
St. Paul, Minnesota, U.S.A. - Friday, July 18th 2003 - 10:27:06 AM

Internet connections are rather iffy for me right now, but I wanted to share this article I (finally) found: Stilwell, Robynn J. "Form, Genre and Funciton in the Film Score", Acta Musicologia February 2000 (72). This is an article on the music from S&S by the same musical scholar who wrote about the music of DH and TMD. More details later--bye!
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Friday, July 18th 2003 - 09:26:44 AM

I see there's another Ann W. on here! Has anyone ordered any of the Snape posters at allposters.com? Are they a reliable company? Are the prices for framing too high? I especially love the promotional poster with the large picture of Snape's face. One of the Harry Potter poster books also had this. Too bad the only other posters are Galaxy Quest. Ann Williams
Ann Williams , <awilliams@sjc.edufoo>
Simsbury, CT, USA - Friday, July 18th 2003 - 05:35:29 AM

Here's a real conincidence! I clicked on "Mars Den" and found a graphic art site...AR used to be a graphic artist! I made the words *Mars Den* up not even knowing someone else also thought of it! Wow!
Joan
- Thursday, July 17th 2003 - 04:57:21 PM

Kimberly & Rickfan 37: It's about coincidences I suspected, but I was wrong.

Yeah, I "sighted" AR in a nightmare: I was the woman in CL and AR was there, but his voice was really high-pitched, how a dream of Alan can become a nightmare!
Joan
- Thursday, July 17th 2003 - 04:35:59 PM


Off-topic, but desperate.
Terri from the vet program at Tufts: please contact your friends on the Journal. We are very worried since no one has heard from you for so long.
Carolyn, dear Carolyn , <rbrlubber@qwest.netletvetpetfoo>
CO, uSA - Thursday, July 17th 2003 - 03:34:40 PM

Joan, what is 'Mars Den'? Do you, by any chance, mean Marston, as in Elliott Marston, Alan's role in 'Quigley Down Under'?
Rickfan37
UK - Thursday, July 17th 2003 - 02:51:35 PM

"anyone have any juicey alan sitings?" she said with heart pounding anticipation. hee hee.
sceezer
- Thursday, July 17th 2003 - 10:12:30 AM

*Spelling/Typo Correction* you are
Kimberly
Michigan, USA - Thursday, July 17th 2003 - 09:50:15 AM

Mars Den? Unless you mean this photo, Joan, I haven't a clue to what your referring to.

Mars Den ;)
Kimberly
Michigan, USA - Thursday, July 17th 2003 - 09:48:05 AM


A very special thank you! for the "Sense and Sensibility" link that gives the words to the songs, Kimberly! BTW, does Mars Den mean anything to you? Joan
Joan
Pa, USA - Thursday, July 17th 2003 - 03:17:54 AM

Somewhat off-topic, yes I know, but since someone just mentioned Amnesty International; BankOne issues a credit card that donates 0.5% of your spending to AI. So that would be something like $1 for every $200 you charge on the CC. Yes, it's not a whole lot, but it doesn't cost you anything and you're helping AI along the way. And no, I'm not a CC solicitor, though I do understand they're extremely popular these days. *Snape-worthy smirk*

FYI, anyone who *still* does't own a copy of TMD (oh, come now), overstock.com has VHS copies for 3 bucks and some change.
jody
California, - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 11:38:57 PM


Hello Rickman fans! I have to confess, I am not a regular. In my context, the terms "The Man" and "The Book" refer respectively to one Will Shakespeare and 1623 Folio of his works. I am just as focused on him as you are on your Man. I hope that qualifies me to ask a favor of you. I have just launched a preview of a new website dedicated to Shakespeare. I have very little experience with running a website. It is very difficult for me to tell how it performs. If you have a chance, could you please stop by at www.unrequitedlight.org, wonder around and drop me a line if you have a comment? I am planning to include a page on all Shakespearean actors who played Hamlet. Alan Rickman is my absolute favorite. Is there anyone visiting this page who has seen him on stage as Hamlet? -Thank you in advance With best regards, Victoria Urgant
Victoria Urgant , <victoria@unrequitedlight.orgfoo>
Los Angeles, - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 11:09:15 PM

Here's a link to a website with loads of information about Jane Austen and "Sense and Sensibility." The site contains the lyrics to the songs Marianne sang in the film. The lyrics are also included with the film's soundtrack cd.

The website: Sense and Sensibility
Kimberly
Michigan, USA - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 08:59:24 PM


Dear kit,pa usa, I liked the melody of the song Marianne sings in S&S, do you know all the words?
Joan
- Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 08:41:47 PM

I am a fan of the man with gorgous hands! wow..I didnt mean for that to rhyme! lol I found out about Mr. Rickman a few years ago when the first Harry Potter movie came out (wait! dont boo me! i can explain!). I was fascinated by his acting and went online afterwords to see what other movies he has done. I was totally shocked to find out that i had seen almost all of his movies before, and just didnt recognize him. (trust me, for that i am ashamed! lol) I love this site and all others about him (or Prof. Snape) well done! and please keep me informed about all things Alan! thanks!
Kristina Carrel , <dixiepixie6@hotmail.comfoo>
Blaine, Washington, USofA - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 07:46:31 PM

Hi to the Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, fans of Alan.... I notice Standing Room Only is being shown at the Film Festival next week.... here's the web-site:

http://www.melbournefilmfestival.com.au/programme/programme_detail.asp?title=Standing%20Room%20Only

Hope you can get to see it and report back with some "Alan" details.

BTW, a big thank you to Suzanne and friends for providing and maintaining this site. I think you're doing a great job!
Gaye
Adelaide, South Australia, - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 04:14:33 PM


Hi! My name is Jana Sanz. I Love Alan Rickman I like see any alan Rickman´s fans Mi email adress: Janyjanita@hotmail.com Si alguien sabe español, aunque sea poco, que me escriba I Speak English
Jana , <janyjanita@hotmail.comfoo>
madrid, Spain - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 12:57:06 PM

I agree with the "nice guy is ignored" comment. Ah, but, MD knows who went out of his way, twice, for her sake. :) She's learning her manners.

In the event that Tami visits these pages; Don't worry about the broken links!! Above all, keep the Galleries! I've loved browsing through them. One fave: Alan sitting in the chair, dressed in black with light blond hair looking like an Eastern European Aristocrat; Beware the wounding tongue! ;)
Ann
AZ, USA - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 12:45:28 PM


Joan, maybe he looks like he's going to say something disapproving when Brandon hears Marianne's horrible reedy singing! I think he's controlling his passion (men like immature tone-deaf girls apparently!) I just started watching Michael Collins... Julia Roberts, why is she in this? Speaking of horrible singing, my mute button had to work hard on this. I can't believe the line after she sings is "she has a voice like an Angel." Not a Seraphim or the Metatron!
kit
pa, usa - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 11:21:27 AM

I still have problems with my damn computer. Sorry for the misspell Superwitch!
Carole
- Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 11:21:21 AM

Superwicth, there the link:
Russian site
Carole, Canada - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 11:12:18 AM

Repeat removed.
Suz (D.o.C.)

sorry Punk Librarian, i couldn't get the link to work for the Russian Artwork. i wonder if you would be kind enough to do it again, or just post the link itself? thanks.

had to repeat it cos i got my own link wrong. sorry Suzanne.
Superwitch
Uk - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 10:55:17 AM


Thanks Madga, I will continue my search. Nice pics Punk Librarian, I went to the Russian site too. The artwork section is so lovely!

During my search on the Internet I found this site of Amnesty International. They talk about the Four Yorkshire Men. When you go down a bit you can find pictures of Alan.
Link to Amnesty show (pics of Alan)
Carole, Canada - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 10:42:31 AM


With apologies to Suzanne, Clair and Claudia for tying up their site with my nonsense.
I have stacks of bad poetry festering away here and will promise not to inflict any more of them on you ... for a small fee. Send cheques payable to ... Ooops!! Oh Dear, got to go
Sandy
Of Well Being, Canada - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 04:50:41 AM

Ali-Pat, thank you so much for your new site, it's a lovely delight! (Well, of course a Librarian would say that. ) But my, you did your homework. I shall be busy reading for a long, long, time.

Sue: You're seeing my inner-man, I'm afraid. I'm described as being "obviously feminine" by my mother, and am a 40 year old married woman, not too chubby, not too lean, somewhat greying devotee of all things RADA and acting. I got my nickname from the time when I chopped of my terribly long brown hair into a Ziggy-Stardust-doo. From then on, I was known as "The Punk Librarian."
Anyhoo, love Cary Grant...(my coworker quips: "Thinks you look like Cary Grant...Alive or Dead?!" lol.
It might be true, I do have a sort of strange masculine charm over the internet. Something to do with being very attentive and polite, especially when in the presence of such darling, intelligent, sensitive women. If the men won't do it, then at least I can teach them how! PS: David Niven and Frank Finlay taught me my manners. Everyone is welcome for the links. I shall endeavor to find more for all of you!

All right, who are these peeps?! lol.

A very nice art piece on Snape, strangely nice, by Meg.

A rather sweet little child's artistic gif of Snape

More grown-up art: Darling search work from Russia on Snape: (very beautiful)

And that's all for now. I'll keep hunting.
Punk Librarian
NYC, USA - Wednesday, July 16th 2003 - 03:16:14 AM


A little bit more "Love Actually" news. According to one of the Firth-firsters sites, there will be a book published to coincide with the movie's release in November:

"Book to be published on November 6; with an introduction by Richard Curtis, the book features delicious extra bits of material, such as the out-takes and a look behind the scenes, stories of the actors' first loves and their favorite love songs. A 192-page trade paperback, with full-color photographs throughout."

Something to look forward to. I've also seen it for pre-order at Amazon.com.
Magda
Canada - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 07:32:44 PM


Carole: thanks for reposting that article. We've known about the project for a while (the article is 2 years old) but haven't heard much about it since the original announcement. Anyone hear new news?
Magda
Canada - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 06:28:02 PM

SPOILER S&S: 1st time I shouted: Not that old man! during the last scene.

When he hears the piano played, I thought he was about to say something disapproving. AR often does this, his reactions are not entirely predictable.

In spite of my first reactions, even the 1st time I saw S&S, I noticed how everyone gathered around Marianne and took her away leaving Brandon soaking wet, exhausted and about to collapse. The nice guy gets overlooked...but not for long!

Love will notice!
Joan
Pa, USA - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 06:25:08 PM


Double deleted.
Suz (D.o.C. with the antidote)

I think Snape cast a spell on my computer. Sorry for the double post.
Carole
- Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 06:13:23 PM

Thank you Sue for your reply. Its always captivating to hear him talking about his work. I'm sad to learn that he hurt himself with the scissors. (poor Alan!).

Yesterday I posted a meassage with a link but I'm afraid I wasn't clear enough. I'm sorry, my english writing is so awful. My message was about an article that I found on the internet. I don't know if you read about this before ladies, but I never heard or read anything about it. I wonder if this is true.

Here the article:

Ananova: Alan Rickman working on Versailles love story Alan Rickman is working on a film script set in the French palace of Versailles. He told the Daily Express the plot is about the man who designed the gardens. He falls in love with a woman during his work for the palace, according to Rickman. "It is a love story which is played out against the backdrop of Versailles at the time of Louis XIV when the expensive gardens were being created," he said. "We're just about to send half the script in now and are still working on the other half." Story filed: 09:07 Wednesday 30th May 2001
Carole
Canada - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 06:04:30 PM


Here's the Aint-it-cool link. Annoying that every other story line gets described except the one we're interested in......
Magda
Canada - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 04:20:44 PM

I'm back from nerve-wracking interviews. So I'll mention my favorite scene (S&S): Colonel B. carrying Marianne in from the rain. It doesn't require stirring music. :)

Second fave: the confession scene. Wish I could get the color adjusted on my TV: his skin always looks strawberry milkshake-pink. That one, and the soft smile on his face as MD awakes, explains why Emma "lobbied" AR to take the part.

I'll stick my neck out and say I think H. Grant is fine in the part of "the Rev." Edward Ferrars.
Ann W
AZ, USA - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 04:04:39 PM


There are two new reviews of Love Actually(from audience previews)over at the Harry Knowles site- Ani't it cool news. com. Sorry can't do links. Both reviewers generally liked the film. Alan was mentioned in the second review. Not that great a mention. They also said that Love Actually is scheduled to open the same weekend as the third Matrix movie.
Troy08
Lewiston, Me, - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 03:57:38 PM

Or even there!!!
sue
- Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 02:22:44 PM

Wow, that's a great find Carole!!Wonder what else is lurking out here!!Thanks:))
Sue
England - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 02:18:45 PM

I found this audio interview of Alan. He talked about his role of Phil in Blow Dry. I hope this link will work.
link to audio interview with Alan on Blow Dry
Carole, Canada - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 01:21:05 PM

Thanks for satisfying my curiosity, Kimberly! I knew it was probably just the forward, but he's got such a pleasing way with his words that I enjoy it whenever I can!
sonoma
usa - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 01:03:32 PM

i fell in love with Alan when i saw him in of course the Harry Potter movies, but also in Sense and Sensibility. I like him so much i have even had dreams about him and i am only 17! i just wanted to say i love him. He is so dark and dreamy. I can't wait to see him in further projects and movies!!
Becky , <ewansangel05@yahoo.comfoo>
Streetsboro, Ohio, U.S.A - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 12:58:39 PM

AliPat, I've lost your email address so sent one to your web site address. I'm in need of some FARM-aid! Help!
kit
pa, usa - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 12:57:18 PM

Thanks, Sue. I need to be more specific. Theresa Chapman's page at U of Notre Dame is full of broken or moved links. The only thing I was able to download from that page was the videogram from TCM. It takes a while to download, yet Alan is relaxed and charming in it.

Part of the problem seems to be that my 7-year-old media programs won't recognize the new downloads from the Rickmaniac.net page. I will continue to work on that problem. :)
Ann W
AZ, USA - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 11:12:42 AM


I wrote this poem, it's called Unbound by Gravity.

Unbound by gravity, Floating thru the galaxy in a euphoric trance, I feel your presence. Masked phantoms made buoyant, drifting in a rythmical galactical dance.

Unbound by gravity, Identities hidden in peaceful sanctuaries made bold by absolute cover...Some will say Viperous Bitch, Sanctimonious Imposter, Disciplinarian, Oppressor...Not I.

Unbound by gravity, Floating thru the galaxy in a euphoric trance, I see Teacher, Dreamer, Poet, Thinker seeking safe harbour. New found courage whispers take a chance.

Unbound by gravity, For some, a catharsis, a novelty, a metamorphosis, a lark. Others seeking approval bear torment in the dark. I see others still, just laughing, just chuckling away, Ecstasy, laughter, illumination, fantasy, Floating thru the galaxy, Unbound by gravity.
Sandy
Canada - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 08:47:42 AM


Sue, Price of Heaves IS funnier when you think about it. :)
Sandy
Canada - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 08:38:04 AM

I think it was Sonoma who recently mentioned the book, "Staging Youth Theatre: A Practical Guide," by Rex Doyle, with Foreword by Alan Rickman. Here is the brief foreword by our Alan Rickman. (Otherwise, the book has no mention or photos of him.):

"I first met and worked with Rex Doyle at the Crucible Theatre, Sheffield, when he directed me in his own play about the life of the great dancer Nijinsky.

Everything that makes Rex such a fine director and teacher was evident in that production. Meticulous research and great leaps of imagination. But perhaps most importantly it was a production that was guided at all times by Rex's openness and generosity towards the actors and his boundless gift for encouragement. And it was fun. The rehearsal room was by definition a market place for common sense, fleeting instincts, and mad ideas.

This excellent book is fed by exactly the same balance of the creative and the practical. Whether you need information on fund-raising, auditioning, running a rehearsal or making a prop, it is all here.

Youth Theatre continues to prove its worth not only in training young actors, directors and technicians, but also in developing the confidence and self-esteem of young people in a much wider sense. Dedicated youth leaders will benefit hugely from the guidance and inspiration which this book offers in abundance. Alan Rickman"
Kimberly
Michigan, USA - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 06:28:48 AM


Oh, I don't know price could fit in just as well !!LOL
Sue
- Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 05:21:54 AM

Obviously that should be Prince of Heaves.
Sandy
- Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 04:59:01 AM

Going thru my Mad magazine collection yesterday and found "Throbbin Hood, Price of Heaves" a Mad Magazine Movie Satire. It's in mag. #307 dated December '91 if anyone's looking for an unusual collectable. It's very funny too!

Susan, U.S.A., afraid I don't have e-mail yet. Thinking of getting one tho. Have only been cyberspacing since May and am dragging my feet at being fully computerized.
Sandy
Canada - Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 04:56:15 AM


Sandy - Steve Irwin is loved by children. My son went crazy ith excitement four years ago(well he was 6) when we went to Australia Zoo on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland. I did not matter that Steve was not there the staff are great and the Croc show a hoot. We went again last year and the place hs grown. Much to the aid of tourism to this little part of Queensland. I even had to tape Steve on a Night time show - Rove - being interviewed and wrestling a rubber croc in a kiddies wading pool. I am glad he does not take himself too seriously. It is great to see someone exciting people about the environment. The penny dropped (to me) just how popular he is in the U.S. when I read that Steven Spielburg watches him with his kids and worries about him taking risks.

If you do not mind the low brow laughs I must say I went to see Daddy Day Care and it was fun. My son went then insisted I went As he knew I would relate to the Star Trek jokes.

So does anybody else yell at the telly when S&S is on to tell Maryanne off about her early poor taste?
Janine
- Tuesday, July 15th 2003 - 12:31:06 AM


Joan, thanks for the link to Carrie's site--I had so much fun there just now! I'm wilting in the heat but found the energy to laugh repeatedly. Couldn't figure out the "Alan Says" game, though...
sonoma
usa - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 08:43:10 PM

12 Photos of AR in a game of concentration. The site is: Alan Rickman Addict's Survival Kit. Click on Snape's photo, then "Concentrating on Alan". You try to match pics of AR as fast as possible. The first time I did it, I took twelve minutes...once it only took me 1 minute 20 seconds. Tell me how you did?
Joan
Pa, USA - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 07:30:19 PM

Sorry! I put the wrong link here's the good one. Good night.
Alan charitable
Carole, - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 07:13:42 PM

I got something else it's old but interesting (I swear this is my last post for tonight. I won't bothering you anymore with my stuff.)
Alan charitable
Carole Canada - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 07:06:16 PM

Tami, "Benefactors" is one of my favorites. It is first of all amazing that Michael Frayn has written three such popular and extremely different plays as "Benefactors," "Copenhagen" and "Noises Off."

But, in addition, I think "Benefactors" has some of the most wonderful Rickman moments. The hiss of "progressive collapse" was entirely memorable even before the collapse of the Twin Towers immortalized the phrase. I absolutely adore the collapse of Colin into the easy chair in his brown living room as they snicker, drinks in hand, over the neighbors. The scene (wearing that watch that looks very like my own) over the kitchen table when he tells Jane about Sheila's previous foray into singing, and the oboe. My back shivers just thinking about it. Jane: "So are you going to leave her?" Colin: "She used to be frightened of me, of course. She used to be in love with me. I've got to have one stick left in the rack."

It does sort of end less with a bang than a whimper, but it is a fascinating journey getting there nonetheless.

Georgiana
Seattle, - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 06:45:40 PM


Gosh!, my search on internet is leading me to stuff I never heard before . Please ladies read the article that I pasted below, and tell me if you know something about this. I wonder if it's true. Sue maybe? I found something else it is a site named: My Alan Rickman Encounter the address is: http://www.boardroom.bizland.com/rickman.htm
Alan Rickman working on a film script
Carole, Canada - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 06:28:01 PM

I found this picture. I never saw this one before. I think the photo was taken in 1999. Carole
Picture of Alan
- Monday, July 14th 2003 - 05:38:37 PM

Back from dropping the kids off at school for their first day back from Winter Holidays. Should have added that that's just MY perception of Steve Irwin, if other Aussies wish to comment please feel free.
Wanted to also mention that I saw a great movie on the week-end. DH took the kids to see "Daddy Day Care" which I thought I could live without seeing!LOL Luckily, "I Capture the Castle" was also on at the same time so I opted to see that instead. It's based on Dodie Smith's novel and is set in 1930s England. Its the tale of two penniless sisters (one of them Aussie Rose Byrne) growing up in a semi-ruined castle where their literary genius dad (Bill Nighy - appears with AR in both Blow Dry and Love Actually) locks himself away and struggles with decade-old writer's block while their flamboyant stepmum dances naked in the rain. Go see it all you Anglophiles - its a lovely movie!
Aussiegirl
- Monday, July 14th 2003 - 04:35:20 PM

ACC - glad you cleared that up - must admit I DID think of you when the tropical print outfit was mentioned! LOL!
Sandy, Canada - You asked about Steve Irwin - The Crocodile Hunter - I've got to say that he was "famous" in the USA long before he was known much in Australia as his show was shown there on cable but not shown here until quite recently. We here in his home state of Queensland had heard of him because of his Australia Zoo facility here but others in other parts of Australia had barely heard of him. I'll never forget seeing him interviewed a couple of years ago on a show out of Melbourne. The panel interviewing him were literally "gobsmacked" by him. They had incredulous looks on there faces and couldn't believe him when he said how famous he was in the US. His personality is seen as quite "over the top" and "in your face" for an Australian and many Australians (mostly men) really can't stand him. I happen to think he's great. What he has done with his Australia Zoo is fantastic. It was started many years ago by his parents and was solely a Reptile Park - very small and low-key. It was on the main highway. Then the highway was moved and the park basically died through lack of passing traffic. Steve then was old enough to take it over from his parents and he has built it up to a world class facility. Its been two years since I've been to it and I've heard he's even improved it more. The reason I admire him so much is that he is always totally himself - it is not an act. He has absolutely no pretensions - he still lives in the very modest house next to the park and he puts all the money he earns into the park and other environmental projects. He is a completely genuine person and environmentalist. To stir up my husband (who can't stand him) every time we pass one of Steve's billboards near the Zoo I call out "Steve Baby!" - gets a roll of the eyes and groan every time!
Aussiegirl
- Monday, July 14th 2003 - 03:18:41 PM

Not as far as wearing a tiara though.
ACC
- Monday, July 14th 2003 - 02:14:40 PM

The tropical print cutoffs were not me. I am very much a basic black at the theatre type of person-tend to dress up a bit...
ACC
- Monday, July 14th 2003 - 02:13:37 PM

There are audio downloads on Rickmaniacs.com and on Tami's Page
Sue
- Monday, July 14th 2003 - 01:52:42 PM

**PoA SPOILERS** I've read Azkaban a couple of times and Snape doesn't cut the most sympathetic character. Well - there's the Boggart scene to which I heard a rumour it was cut, it's not - it's been filmed and should be very funny.
At the end of the story there's alot of confrontation - Snape doesn't care about the facts, he just wants revenge and the acclaim that will come if he pulls in a "criminal". he has a big part, he ends up looking like a large, angry, jealous, seething, idiot - and there is fun at his expense - the boggart scene, of course and when he is silenced and brought back to the castle - the heros of our story care little for him or whether he has a headache when he comes to... and that he is ultimately trumped in the end by "POTTER!!

It will be interesting to see what scenes from the book the writers choose to employ and to what degree.
Chandra
NC, - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 01:48:16 PM


Thanks for the kind words on the site, everyone. It will keep growing, so keep checking.

Tami--I have to admit I was a little bit disappointed in Benefactors. I read the play before I saw a tape of it and it wasn't at all what I imagined. In fact, I thought Colin (AR's role) was far too nasty and destructive--not amusing at all. I guess I was picturing more of a Noises Off kinda thing (also by Michael Frayn). The play was a great read, the but film was a downer for me.

Joan--I'm sorry but I missed your link. Could you repost it? (especially if it is related to AABA). The lines "Little Chap, stands like me" are the biggest mystery of all to me in this film full of mysteries.

Oh--and to meet Alan at the stagedoor, just wear whatever you might wear when attending a play. I saw all modes of dress at the stage door in NYC, but "black and simple" predominated. I would not go so far as to wear a tiara (as one girl did), but on the other hand, I think tropical print overall cutoffs might be considered a mite too casual (saw that, too).
Ali-Pat
On the Road Again, Somewhere in Ohio, USA - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 01:48:01 PM


In between calls and interviews, I stop by. I noticed that many sound and movie file pages have been taken down or moved.

Now, I do NOT intend to "lay a guilt trip" on Suzanne!! I kept a simple text and images page for two years; loads of "free" time went into that and all of 7 people ever saw it! It's work!

That said, does anyone know a working sound file page? -- I am especially fond of his '90's work. What are the formats?

Thank You.
AW
AZ, USA - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 01:27:20 PM


Ann W said earlier that they will not film Order of the Phoenix. Is that true? I read somewhere, (I think it was on an MSN news site, can't recall at the moment) that it would likely be released 18 months after Goblet of Fire. Are they really only making four movies? That would be awfully sad if we only got four helpings of Mr. Rickman's remarkable performance as Professor Snape. :(

*TINY SPOILERS FOR OOTP and the first two Harry Potter movies* I think that if they film Book V, the scene with the pensieve will be incredible. I can only imagine how Mr. Rickman would play Snape's reaction to Harry's intrusion. (*Shiver*) If they choose to only film the first four, I will just have to be content with the amazingly delivered lines "Our....new...celebrity..." and "Do you have ANY idea how serious this is ?!?" Can't wait to see him in Prisoner of Azkaban! Cheers everyone.
Rickfan888
Boise, ID, USA - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 12:52:59 PM


I had preview tickets. I knew AR was cast in it. Still, the sight of Brandon entering the room, open-mouthed . . . so much emotion in those eyes . .. (quiver)

If I were Marianne, surprised by his arrival in London, I would have sat down to visit with B, not go rushing off in search of W! Age before beauty.

Alright, where is it written that Alan must have a long speech? And WHY must it be anguished and sorrow-ful, not cheeky or cheerful? The fruity baritone is a beautiful instrument, but, . . .
Ann W
AZ, USA - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 12:29:00 PM


I must admit i thought it was a double wedding too....
Jizel
- Monday, July 14th 2003 - 11:16:52 AM

I'm so sorry, I don't know what I did ! I think I push the wrong button. (I'm still sleeping I guess) My message was not finished. The link for the biography is http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&id=1800021960&cf=biog&intl=us Sandy from Canada: I think you can order the tape at amazon canada the adress is http://www.amazon.ca
Carole
Me again - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 09:00:49 AM

There a nice little biography of Alan Rickman written by Rebeca Flint from all movie guide on the link below. Sandy from Canada, I don't know if you want to buy the tape or just rented, but if you want to buy the tape, You can find it at Amazon
Carole
Canada - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 08:51:51 AM

Sandy from Canada, I might be able to help you out with the Sense and Sensibility tape. Are you comfortable leaving your email addy on this board?
Susan
USA - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 08:34:17 AM

Yes, I must admit when I first saw S&S at the cinema I thought it was a double wedding. According to Emma Thompson's dvd commentary lots of people thoght it as well.
BTW I LIKE his hat LOL
Sue
England. - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 08:27:54 AM

Joan, I'd love to discuss S&S. One thing, we must assume tht not EVERYone has seen it. Anything dealing with the conclusion (i.e., Eliza, Beth and the Col., and, who marries whom) must be prefaced with a "SPOILER" tag. Ok?

Be aware that Col. B's hat has been discussed; What were they thinking? ;)
Ann W
AZ, USA - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 08:19:33 AM


Hello. I just came back from a trip and came back here on the GB, and found an exciting post from Karin saying that she spotted AR in W2 in London on July 12th. Wow! If my understanding is correct, gW2h is the area across the Hyde Park (or Kensington Gardens?), and/or the area near Paddington Station, isnft it? I miss London very much!
Hiromi , <hiromitanazawa@yahoo.co.ukfoo>
Saitama, JAPAN - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 08:15:40 AM

Joan, I'd love to discuss S&S; the horses, the clothes (esp'ly Col. B.'s ridiculous hat!) and the men have been discussed on these pages.

Discussion of "Beth", "Eliza" and Col. B. -- the secret he keeps -- deserves a "SPOILER" line.

I'll start: the wedding at the end is that of the middle sister: According to Emma Thompson, Elinor and the Rev. "Mr. F" were already married. Ah, but what a smile on her face!
Ann W
AZ, USA - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 08:14:29 AM


Really enjoyed your new site Ali-Pat. Hope it's not too late to wish you a safe and happy holiday.
Sandy
Canada - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 07:58:40 AM

Couldn't believe my own eyes when I found a copy of Sense & Sensibility at the rental store. Couldn't believe my own eyes again when I found the box was :0....empty! It was supposed to have been returned last January. That's how difficult it is to find Alan's movies here. When you do find one you feel compelled to steal it. (It wasn't one of you guys was it?). Anyhoo, there's a fan I'd like to get my hands on - if only to "borrow" her "borrowed" copy. ok, enough foreplay :D, The real reason I'm here today is to ask if the AABA group (or anyone else) would like to discuss Sense & Sensibility. Does this movie lend itself to discussion a la AABA? It doesn't matter, I would luv to hear everyone's views. Thank you.
An aside to the Aussie GB'ers - Is the crocodile hunter taken as seriously there as he is here? (Said with a Snape-ish smile:)
Sandy
Canada - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 05:37:27 AM

First time I have ever done anything like this, but have been reading and enjoying the chat. Spotted an article in "Saturday Premier" section of UK's Daily Telegraph on 5th July re: Love Actually, sorry it's late, been summoning up courage! The cast list mentions everyone but AR, but gives a very favourable review of an 11 minute trailer shown in Reading (down south somewhere) about 10 days ago. Most of the article goes over the plot which we all seem to be familiar with, however, a few snippets: "Admittedly, 11 minutes of heavily-cut scenes aren't much to go on, but I am pretty certain that (Hugh) Grant and (Bill) Nighy - whose career was reborn in BBC1's State of Play will steal the show." (I wouldn't bet on that!!) "Love Actually will be released in November and you don't have to accept my word that it's vintage Curtis and Grant. At the first audiance test with the film in Reading, 80% of the viewers described it as excellent and said they would highly recommend it to a friend - a considerably higher rating, I am told, than either 4 Weddings or Notting Hill in similar tests."
Juliet , <vatman@tinyworld.co.ukfoo>
Huddersfield, Yorkshire aka God's own county!, UK - Monday, July 14th 2003 - 04:04:51 AM

I am very sorry to post thrice. Please edit. Keep the one that has the less mistakes. Thanks

All Fixed -Claire
Janine
- Monday, July 14th 2003 - 03:18:43 AM


He would have just finished doing the housework..that is what flowers are for Ha!..no?..Oh ..sorry...that was me. Maybe they were roses and he was going to practise the tango with a rose in his mouth. I am sure Georgiana's good store would remove the thorns. My how nice to give Ms Duncan Roses with Eucalyptus. Mad Australian Women* everywhere thank you. I say this as my husband refers to A.R.'s fans as the mad mummies. I tell him no. Some are not mummies and some are sane. lol
Janine
- Monday, July 14th 2003 - 03:16:59 AM

Joan, where are you planning to meet Alan? When I met Alan I wore a long paisley print skirt (to my ankles) and a long-sleeved black peasant top, and on another occasion I wore a sleeveless white shirt with buttons and a collar and black dress pants. But truthfully, I don't think it matters much what you wear--he won't notice your clothes anyway. Your attitude and words are more important, and I know it's hard but try to be relaxed and down-to-earth. Treat him like a normal person and not some god, it seems to make him uncomfortable. Also, he loves it when fans help each other and are courteous--that gets positive attention. And never, never, NEVER bring "that book" for signing and NEVER ask him personal questions. You might try showing him a funny drawing you made or tell him a humorous story. He has a great sense of humor and it breaks the ice nicely, in addition to the pleasure you will have at sharing a laugh with him. That's my advice and good luck!
Tami
- Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 09:38:30 PM

Anybody have The Benefactors and wish to discuss it? Maybe I'm weird, but I loved it. A pleasant surprise, I must say. Alan's role reminded me a bit of "Busted" and also the underlying theme in Close My Eyes of urban development. And me being a left-leaning, tree-hugging, peace-loving liberal... it was right up my alley! Incidentally, I never get picked for a jury. Wonder why? LOL Sorry, no politics on the guestbook!
Tami
Notre Dame, - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 09:14:40 PM

What does a lady wear when meeting Alan Rickman at the stage door in NYC, for example? I'm hoping to help him feel comfortable about me being one of his fans.
Joan
Pa, USA - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 09:11:57 PM

Gosh concerned citizen! Now I wanted both! the art work and the flowers.
Carole , <I'm tired , i'm silly, its midnight in my province, I'm going to bedfoo>
Canada - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 08:53:39 PM

A Concerned Citizen, you'd make a very loyal friend of AR's if you aren't already. I think we're talking about the sometimes confusing nature of a man/woman relationship. I've had this experience of tension relieve by a "peace offering". Humor helps, sometimes.

You're absolutely right, jumping to conclusions is an extremely common error in judgment....don't you just hate it?!
Joan
Pa, USA - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 06:47:26 PM


Now, you guys, starting trouble are you? He might have been going to dinner at a friend's house and brought flowers as a "hostess gift"-it doesn't have to be a nefarious purpose, even if they weren't for Ms. Horton. Maybe he bought them for himself, doing a still life most likely, in watercolor. Personally, I would love to have an example of his artwork rather than flowers-last longer....
A Concerned Citizen
- Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 05:06:06 PM

I have the same thought Joan...
Carole ( still jealous) , <I want some flowers too Alan.....foo>
- Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 03:36:10 PM

Maybe he bought flowers because he's *already* in trouble! (chuckle)
Joan
Pa, USA - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 03:27:08 PM

I hope Rima doesn't read this site because if she didn't recieve any flowers from AR that day he's in BIG trouble!LOL
Aussiegirl
- Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 02:55:53 PM

Karin, your post makes me miss living in the city where people walk to do their errands. How neat! When I lived in D.C. I would see politicians and newspeople around Dupont Circle and Georgetown every now and then. (never actors though)It's nice to know AR still walks to shops in his neighborhood, and that he buys fresh flowers!
Chandra
NC, - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 01:05:25 PM

Congratulations on your new site, Ali-Pat! It's the kind of AR resource I've always wished for. Have a great vacation!
sonoma
usa - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 10:53:13 AM

Alan Rickman....He's my hero...in HP he is so adorable!!! I keep on having dreams about him as Professor Snape...ALAN RICKMAN...IF YOU SEE THIS PLEASE COME TO AMERICA AND VISIT ME!!!!(e-mail me first and ill tell you where I live) Love, Lauren XOXOXOXOXOXO
Lauren Walsh , <lady_canes20@yahoo.comfoo>
Crystal Lake, Illinois, United States of America - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 09:13:31 AM

Posts were deleted because they violated the second item of #13 of the FAQ.
Suz (D.o.C.)

Where did my posts go? I thought they were cute. I know Ali-Pat enjoyed the AABA discussion I contributed alot to. Didn't she think it was funny to ask for a link directly to AR? There are 17,900 sites for AR fans, I thought this would make hers stand out to suggest a link to AR, his fans would be overwhelmed with joy.
Joan
Pa, USA - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 08:40:13 AM

Karin, how lovely for you! Was it by chance anywhere near that lovely little stand just off Portobello Road near Westbourne Grove? It's a permanent triangular stand on a wedge of sidewalk, and they do the most wonderful bouquets. That's where I bought roses with eucalyptus for Lindsay Duncan on her birthday.
Georgiana
Seattle - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 08:26:29 AM

congratulations Ali-Pat, that is some fantastic information. thank you.
Superwitch , <http://www.fanfiction.net/profile.php?userid=323194foo>
UK - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 05:15:46 AM

Happy Sunday, all.

I have done all I can before going on vacation, so now is the time to formally announce my web presence:

The AR Fan's Lifetime Reading Plan

It has taken me almost exactly a year to get this far, but there is still much more to come! The Film/TV portion is nearly complete, but in the coming weeks and months, I will be adding to the Plays portion and the Radio/Recordings portion as time allows. And I hope very soon to complete the much-requested "Listing Slightly" portion for your amusement.

Many warm thanks to all my "beta testers" and others who got a sneak preview. Your kind words and encouragement have helped fuel the fire! Hope the site proves to be useful.
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 04:17:36 AM


W2 is a postal area of London covers Bayswater, Paddington, Edgware Rd ares.
Sue
- Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 03:03:01 AM

Karin, what's a W2 please, and I must say you showed remarkable restraint in actually taking the time to park your car after spotting Alan. I would've just abandoned it hahaha. Guess the flowers were for the lucky Rima.
Sandy
up before the sun & loving it, Canada - Sunday, July 13th 2003 - 02:50:19 AM

My Goodness!!Take a few days off from reading the guest book and you end up with no idea what is going on. I'm not quite sure if that is good or bad......
Troy08
Lewiston, Me., - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 06:55:30 PM

Suzanne thanks for your lovely GB .You and your deputys have done nothing but good work that I can see since I have been reading it.

I would just like to say how much I have enjoyed the discussion about AABA .One of my favourite roles that AR has done.That entrance is just so .........!!! Well you know LOL.

Ali Pat ...What a lovely web page thanks for the link:)
Magda
Scotland*the other one LOL* - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 02:28:51 PM


Apologies!! it's wish list and I have to add breaks!

When The Angels Fall

So high above the world tonight
The angels watch us sleeping
And underneath a bridge of stars
We dream in safety's keeping
But perhaps the dream
Is dreaming us
Soaring with the seagulls
But perhaps the dream
Is dreaming us
Astride the backs of eagles

When the angels fall
Shadows on the wall
In the thunder's call
Something haunts us all
When the angels fall
When the angels fall

Take your father's cross
Gently from the wall
The shadow still remaining
See the churches fall
In mighty arcs of sound
And all that they're containing
Yet all the ragged souls
Of all the ragged men
Looking for their lost homes
Shuffle to the ruins
From the levelled plain
To search among the tombstones

When the angels fall
Shadows on the wall
In the thunder's call
Something haunts us all

When the angels fall

These are my feet
These are my hands
These are my children
And this is my demand
Bring down the angels
Cast them from my sight
I never want to see
A million suns at midnight

Your hands are empty
The streets are empty
You can't control us
You can't control us anymore

When the angels fall.

(c) 1991 A&M Records, Inc.
Chandra
try again, thank you for your tolerance - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 01:57:57 PM


6 degrees of AR - widh listing

Someone mentioned "Fallen Angels" - I heard this song on my way into work this morning: It's from Sting's "Soul Cages" a tribute to his late Father. I'd like to hear AR deliver this (as poetry)

When The Angels Fall So high above the world tonight The angels watch us sleeping And underneath a bridge of stars We dream in safety's keeping But perhaps the dream Is dreaming us Soaring with the seagulls But perhaps the dream Is dreaming us Astride the backs of eagles When the angels fall Shadows on the wall In the thunder's call Something haunts us all When the angels fall When the angels fall Take your father's cross Gently from the wall The shadow still remaining See the churches fall In mighty arcs of sound And all that they're containing Yet all the ragged souls Of all the ragged men Looking for their lost homes Shuffle to the ruins From the levelled plain To search among the tombstones When the angels fall Shadows on the wall In the thunder's call Something haunts us all When the angels fall These are my feet These are my hands These are my children And this is my demand Bring down the angels Cast them from my sight I never want to see A million suns at midnight Your hands are empty The streets are empty You can't control us You can't control us anymore When the angels fall. (c) 1991 A&M Records, Inc.
Chandra
NC, - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 01:52:34 PM


I didn't know who Alan Rickman was until I saw Harry Potter and The Sorcerer's Stone. I fell in love with him the first time I lay my eyes on him. He was absolutly gorgeous. I've never liked anyone else since then. Alan Rickman is a great actor, and a total heartthrob. He's awesome. He's awesome in DOGMA as the Metatron. He's SSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOO HOT!!!!
Aeryn Roberts , <buttaphly_angel_02@yahoo.comfoo>
Billings, Montana, USA - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 11:21:39 AM

Ali-Pat, I love your site, very informative.
Carole
- Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 11:10:20 AM

Re Karin: A bunch of flowers!!!, Oh dear, I wonder who's the lucky one!
Carole ( the jealous french lady)
Quebec, Canada - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 10:49:13 AM

*sigh* Okay, let me try to explain something. Negative comments are not "allowed" by some people and not others. But sometimes they are not found instantly. Please try to understand that even though there are three of us monitoring the GB, we DO have jobs/family/a life outside the Internet, so sometimes it may take a little longer to remove it. I will or would have taken care of any insulting comments IF there weren't already a half dozen responses to it before I found it! Don't you see how that just makes it harder on us? That's why it's better to ignore negatives comments and trolls, etc. on the GB, and please be patient and trust my Deputy D.o.C.s and I to take care of them eventually.

Now, I don't want to see anything more about this subject on the GB and that's the last you're going to hear from me about it here, because we are here to discuss Alan Rickman, NOT Guestbook politics. So if you have anything else you want to say about it, please TAKE IT TO E-MAIL.
Thank you. And thank you, everyone, for your kindness!

BTW, I very much enjoyed the AABA discussion (that's one of the main things the GB is for!), and thank you Ali-Pat for the HIAF script link!

Suzanne , <Suz@mail.usa.comfoo>
TX, USA - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 08:24:15 AM


Well spotted Karin!!LOL
Sue
- Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 08:00:24 AM

He is in London. At least, he was this afternoon. I spotted him in W2. Most unfortunately, I was stuck in my car, so I could not take a photo nor ask a question or whatever. Dark sunglasses. He carried a bunch of flowers. Looked totally normal, like all the people around him, not at all like a celebrity. When I had parked my car I came back to the place where I saw him but he was gone of course. Anyway, something which is so very unlikely has occured to me, and I am really thrilled and glad. Greetings to you all from London W2, Karin
Karin
- Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 07:43:46 AM

Ali-Pat!! Wow your new site is great. What a labour of love and information. Congratulations
Sue
England - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 07:31:38 AM

Good morning, campers. I just read the note on The Rickmanista Review about a possible AR sighting in the film Lost in La Mancha. It looks like he makes an uncredited cameo as a "suit" in one of the scenes. Any comments from someone who has seen the film?
Ali-Pat
amusing myself by making comparisons between Snape and Sadistic Sister Edmunda in Dayton, OH, USA - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 07:18:12 AM

Dee, thanks for your kind words.

Chandra, now I have a soft spot in my heart for Kevin Costner after reading how he "...wished he were a better actor..." safe to assume most actors have wished the same for themselves after working with our exceptionally and beautifully talented Alan.

and last but not least, Sirius, I don't smoke anything a'tall but I used to ;) P.S. I heard you were dead!
Sandy
STILL SMOKIN' BABY!!!!!!!, Canada - Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 06:32:54 AM


"It is possible to disagree without including personal attacks on others' characters"
Thank you Joan,I agree, let's hope we all can!
Sue
- Saturday, July 12th 2003 - 12:21:06 AM

Hi Suzanne, I was the one who started the discussion of AABA when I posted as Melanie, Down in the Dumps. I knew if I signed "Joan, Pa USA" I would get rude, excessively critical comments. No one has thanked me like they do others. It seems there are certain people singled out for getting "picked on" ,as there are others who are treated courteously.

WhenA I post as myself, I don't get "credit", but when I post as a funny name I get very kind responses. It's predictable! This is no coincidence. People don't sign their name often times, if the post is directed to me. They don't want to admit they agree with "Joan", cause it's been made clear I am not "included".

I am glad I got so many people excited about AABA, and kept the discussion going. It was great fun!

Quote: If you are liked, you can get away with just about anything; but, if you are not liked, you can do everything right on target and it won't make any difference". It's not fair, but that's what is taking place.

People choose not to sign their name because you get personally insulted if you give an "incorrect" opinion. I'm a very open person, but why should I sign my own name when it only encourages rudeness. The thing is, people are discouraging the very thing they want: an honest opinion.
It is possible to disagree without including personal attacks on others' characters.
Joan
Pa, USA - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 11:55:40 PM


I must say thank you to Suzanne and her helpers for all of their hard work and for the inconvenience of having to police this guestbook. It seems to me that if a person wanted to plead their case with Suzanne, then she has an email address to do that. If someone wants to brag about "getting around the rules" call people names, denigrate other posters and threaten mayhem if they are not given their way, then I think they are just trying to start trouble and we are encouraging them by paying attention to them. However we may feel about someone else's choice of a marriage partner, this not the forum to discuss that either. Too bad about Rickman not being on stage, isn't it.
A Concerned Citizen
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 11:50:22 PM

Wait a minute -- TS has taken responsibility! He has pleaded with Suzanne to let his wife post and asked that she not be punished for his actions. Short of her divorcing him, what would satisfy the powers that be?
Kate
San Francisco, - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 09:57:49 PM

He was warned that he would get banned, and he kept up with it. Why is it Suzanne's fault that the wife can no longer post? Why is it not His fault?
Take responsibility T.S.
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 09:48:04 PM

Posts of an insulting nature ARE allowed on the GB. It just depends on who is making them. Glad that's cleared up! Georgina is right. Some dedicated AR fans HAVE been driven away from the GB. Magda herself declared earlier today that the "abusers" have not been heard from lately. I'm not so sure that's true. Oh, I see I have veered off topic. Well, I'll get back on. Punk Librarian has made some very fine contributions to our AR-gazing lately. I salute her. Wade through those "Dogma" pics if you have a chance, there are a lot of AR gems buried in the sub-categories, and he's got his pants on in all of them.
Kate
San Francisco, - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 09:40:54 PM

Totally Smitten

Your behaviour is rude, unwelcome, uncalled for, petty, obnoxious and downright vile. Yes, you are free to state your opinions in any public forum. However, this is a private forum.

As Magda says, Reality Check. This is Suzanne's Guestbook. She can run it any way she d*mn well pleases. And if it pleases her to boot you, more power to her.

You are more than welcome ... to go away.


Barbara the Wallpaperer
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 09:16:20 PM


Bet you $100 the 200-post poster hasn't been banned!!
Dee
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 07:45:38 PM

OOTP: I'll repeat something I read here: My admiration for McGonagall rose with every week of Umbridge's stay. Meow!:)

Remus: If I were in the Order, I'd ask Sirius to cast a "catatonia spell" so I can measure him for a new suit of clothes. It's my "inner Hermione" fuming at the injustice of his situation. Perhaps he would refuse, out of pride (men!).

AR: It's a pity they won't film OOTP. Because I think AR would love to sink his teeth into *this* Snape -- who is serving Dumbledore, so far!
Ann W
USA - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 07:32:32 PM


Sandy Canada what the hell are you smokin
Sirius
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 07:31:01 PM

These have been two lengthy posts now from "Totally Smitten," both of which (1) cast aspersions on Suzanne (she is accused of being 'prudish' and spiteful); (2) cast aspersions at the rest of us (we are "prudish Nuns" equally guilty--presumably of being unfair); (3) are posted anonymously neither name nor email address (oops! might be buried in some fashion in there somewhere); and, most significantly, (4) have nothing whatsoever to say about the work of Mr. Rickman, which is the erstwhile purpose of this site (unless you count trying to hawk a tape).

Suzanne is one of the kindest, most fair, least guile individual it has ever been my pleasure to know. She devotes countless hours to maintaining this site, making photos and tapes and videograms available to Mr. Rickman's many fans, and trying to fairly settle disputes among those who frequent this site, some of whom appear to derive pleasure from anonymous attacks and trolling.

Most of us are unaware of much of the damaging and spiteful comments that are posted here, as three different individuals at three corners of the globe spend untallied hours ridding these pages of most of it. It is sad that such good folk are forced to spend their time this way, sadder yet to contemplate the many fine fans that no longer frequent these pages because of the abuse heaped here by the few.

This has in the past been the location of a true community of folk attracted by this fine actor who have been eager to give to others in their own way some of the pleasure this marvelous actor has afforded to them. It is dispiriting to find an anonymous minority seeking to destroy that community. I sincerely wish them more productive useful endeavors in the future. And that the rest of us are free to carry on such fascinating discussions as AABA has afforded us in recent days.

Must say, I thought the notion that P.L. O'Hara would recognize his son, whom he hopes to find whilst racing around the streets of Liverpool on his motorbike, by the fact that his son would stand like himself, "heroical, twice nightly" made fine albeit whimsical sense. But I guess I may just have to watch that gem again . . .

Georgiana , <gellis@drizzle.comfoo>
Seattle - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 06:26:24 PM

I missed it too! Maybe we could rig up some kind of alarm on our computers which sounds so we can quickly get a look before its deleted!
Subversive in the Suburbs
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 06:20:42 PM

Hey, I never saw that naked guy's post either! I feel cheated. (Pouting)
Kate
San Francisco, - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 05:07:32 PM

BTW Sandy--well said. And I think AR has sandy-colored hair. ;)
Dee
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 05:02:01 PM

I don't wish to drag this thing out, but (oh gosh, I guess I will drag it out), I am one who has enjoyed the off-color merriment here on the GB (and I confess to being a participant). However, I read with interest Magda's post about the naughty picture and the 200-times-in-a-row poster. I did not experience either of these incidents, and I would say those posters went overboard.

Those posts were extremes!!! Look, the folks (like me) who are true AR fans and want to enjoy the GB with everybody, but who also want to have a bit of fun, are NOT, I repeat NOT the folks who post naked pictures and attempt to disrupt the GB. I believe they are once-in-awhile posters who have nothing better to do.

I shall post a site here (which I have been reluctant to do, because I'm worried about being banned, etc.) But I guess if we can view photos of AR with his pants down, this site won't bother a soul. I hope you all have fun with it. (Sorry, you have to copy and paste.)

http://quizilla.com/users/meegwun/quizzes/Which%20of%20the%20illustrious%20Alan%20Rickman's%20characters%20are%20you%3F/

Please, can we have a little humor back again??? There's been enough discussion of AABA's script!!!
Dee , <IMissTheHumorHerefoo>
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 04:51:18 PM


Wow, great find, Ali-Pat! Thanks!
sonoma
usa - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 04:34:29 PM

Interesting catch there, Ali-Pat (fish pun intended).
Magda
Canada - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 02:51:50 PM

I hope nobody is paying $40 for Fallen Angels-- that's a bit pricey, don't you think TS? BTW, my AR chat is tonight at 10:00 CST (Chicago time), just click on my name, then click on "Chat About Alan." Everyone is welcome. See you there!
Tami
Notre Dame, - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 02:25:39 PM

Well, bust my buttons. I was just trying to find out the name of the children's book that Help! I'm a Fish is based on and I ended up finding the entire screenplay in PDF! If you're like me and really, really enjoy reading screenplays, you will find it here.
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 01:44:18 PM

Well Hello Suzanne, You have finally condescended to reply to me.Well as I am now on open forum I would like to set the record straight.Point 1 never at any time did I post anything vulgar everything was written with inuendo and to my mind if the site is read by a load of prudish Nuns how the hell do they know what is inplied ,they thought it I did not say it.Point 2 My rudeness to other posters is justified,these postings directed to ACC,Joan and Chandra was a positive response to their unwarranted attacks on certain other posters,those three seem able to post with impunity,without fear or recriminaton,are they personal friends of yours? for my attacks on them I make no apology.For any other postings supposedly in my name I bear no .responsobility,I think you have a case of mistaken identity.All I ask is that you open up the site for my Wife to post on and you will never hear from me again.As I have shown that I can access the site at my pleasure this is surely the nice way to go about it,however if you choose the other road who knows what Iam capable off,I should hate to be the one to spoil the fun of so many.Angry people do crazy things.By the way my E-Mail is insley at thewind.fsnet.co.uk.I hope this posting can make you see sense in what is becoming a very silly feud.I await you response with interest Regards Totally Smitten
Totally Smitten
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 01:33:17 PM

Hmm. I finished OOTP last night, all but the last chapter. I think the death scene is fine; please remember that this is a series written for children from age 9 upwards. She handled it, and Harry's rage and sorrow, very truth-fully and with grace. this might be a *** SPOILER ***: I was thinking, as Dumbledore was talking with Harry, about how Sirius' death might have been averted: when Sirius and Snape were trading insults, it became clear to this reader that one of them had "made it his law of action" that one's childhood (think of Snape's) is not an excuse for our behavior. I know that some people are struggling to put up appropriate boundaries around wounds inflicted by others, twenty, thirty, forty or more years later, and to lead a fuller life. There are, as Dumbledore says, [lives] worse than death. But I digress. Snape overcame the shame from his and proved to be a trustworthy ally. Despite Harry's curiosity. Yes, yes, if Sirius had not been so hot-tempered, there would have been three books, not five.;) But I trust you will take what I say with a grain of salt. Sandy, here's the next chapter of the novel! :)
Ann W
AZ, USA - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 01:15:22 PM

Adding my applause.
Cindie
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 11:54:30 AM

There has been an update on whatsonstage.com:

UPDATED: Ah well, in hindsight, it probably was too good to all be true. A few hours after we posted the above paragraph, RSC casting director John Cannon called us to set the record straight. Apparently, however wishfully the McKellen and Rickman appointments may be talked about outside the company, these are not on the cards. That said, the Boswell Spanish series will indeed feature and Greg Hicks' Macbeth is likely. All in all, it's still looking like a corker.
Sue
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 10:59:36 AM


Hear hear, Magda! Cheers to Suzanne, Claudia and Claire!
Gwenn
NYC,, USA - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 09:43:57 AM

****BIG AABA Spoiler!!**** Joan: it used to be one of my favorite lines and I can't remember it!! I think it was "I have a fairy on my shoulder." = a dialogue hint. :)
Blissful Wanderer
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 08:55:29 AM

How on earth do you "curate" a dramatic performance?

Sandy: on the whole I agree with your comments on the GB but the unfortunate reality is that Suzanne, Claudia and Claire have to deal with some pretty awful stuff like the idiot who posted a nude shot of a guy displaying his - shall we say? - non-ken-doll appendage. Or the recent activity (which precipitated the move to this site) whereby someone posted over 200 times in a row, thus clogging up the GB.

Reality Check: this is Suzanne's site, she can run it the way she wants. She's been very tolerant, even of the handful of people who've abused her good nature in the past (and before anyone gets into a "does she mean me?!?!?!? snit fit, I assure the list that the abusers haven't been around for a while).

Claudia even set up the DownTime Bar (accessible from the FOF page) for people who want a more relaxed posting environment. So let's have a big round of applause for three ladies who do a lot of work to give us a lot of pleasure and say, take a bow: Suzanne, Claudia and Claire.
Magda
Canada - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 08:45:15 AM


Thanks for that news Penny! It's only on the gossip page but hope there is some truth in it.
sue
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 08:44:11 AM

OK, Are y'all sitting down? Here's some news from the whatsonstage site: The Royal Shakespeare Company's 2004 season at Stratford is shaping up to be a real corker. Following the announcement of Antony Sher's Iago and Dame Judi Dench's return to the bard's home after nearly 25 years (in All's Well That Ends Well), we hear some more exciting casting whispers. Amongst the most titilating are: Sir Ian McKellen playing King Lear under the direction of former artistic director Adrian Noble; Greg Hicks...as Macbeth; and Alan Rickman leading a Spanish Golden Age season curated by Laurence Boswell. And here we were thinking the 2003 Festival season - featuring the likes of Ralph Fiennes, Henry Goodman, Emma Fielding, etc., was going to be hard to top! London base or not, the company's recently installed artistic director Michael Boyd is oviously doing something right. Long may the good news continue.
Penny S.
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 07:23:28 AM

Alan's impersonation of Ken is perfectly charming. A Ken Doll for the Thinking Woman! Where would a guy hide a thing like that anyway?).

Enjoyed all the comments re AABA BTW. Haven't seen this movie yet but it's on my lengthy list of things to do. Have been reacquainting myself with the other Alan movies in my possession. I sure do like having him in my living room.

Hello Suzanne, not to interfere (right) but would it be too much trouble to let everyone say whatever they want to say and let us decide what is worthy of reading? Wouldn't it be less work for you if you didn't have to enforce rules and police us and then delete and ban certain people? Maybe the GB format could be changed so names are at the top of the posts. We could then see in an instant whether or not to read any further. Forgive me for over-simplifying things as I'm sure I've done. You have to know I'm clueless re setting up websites, can't define downloading, don't understand "e-mail me" and am becoming increasingly perplexed by people who can't even go for a walk without a cell phone. What's up with that? So take my "techno" suggestions for what they're worth - 2 cents Canadian.

This is turning into a book. Wishing for you all an abundance of love, life, laughter, peaceful sanctuary - may our hearts be Sparkled and Brightened by much Love and Joy.
Sandy
Canada - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 07:15:53 AM


Hello everyone! Lets hope my computer doesn't play up this time! I didn't expect to see 2 entries! Debi, from Springfield, Viginia, yes, I was interested too about this "Stella Maris" in TMD. "Star of the Sea"? Does it mean this, I wonder? Pretty name and I think at one time it was said, that she is a good friend of AR? Can anyone help me here please?
Barbara the Australian , <bpac350@hotmail.comfoo>
Gold Coast, Australia. - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 07:09:06 AM

Thanks for your sterling work Punk Librarian ( I have this vision of a Cary Grant-type man entering the library and letting down your Mohican and removing your glasses "My but your beautiful"!LOL Sorry I really DO watch too many movies!!)
When I got BroadBand back in April I googled the whole AR Image pages in abour 15 mins. Anyone considering getting Broadband- just get it ;)
I like the Bob Roberts pix and the OOoo! one.
Sue
- Friday, July 11th 2003 - 04:20:50 AM

Interesting little thing - I just got on Amazon. I was looking up Galaxy Quest The "people who bought this also bought..." list is all AR movies.... not Tim Allen movies or Sigourney Weaver movies - All AR.

RHPoT SPOILER- O.K. I'll give it up.
Someone asked what I was referring to in the Two Kevins commentary first Marion's castle scene- The line that is so great is Kevin Costner, just saying to the other Kevin like it's nothin' "I wish I were a better actor.."

it floored me.
Chandra
Hey Kev!, We do too. - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 03:35:35 AM


Ah ha, trust me to not go searching hard enough. The piccies were from a lovely website that gave me most of my early Rickman info, Rickman in The Round. Well, I'm guessing everyone saw those. Appologies too all. Next time I promise it will be me haplessly rushing around trying to find piccies of AR in the library. ;) I really do need more AR! (As I'm sure we all do.)
PunkLibrarian
NYC, USA - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 03:08:28 AM

Your pardon, I seem to have screwed that all up.
Here is what I hope will be the cleaned up version?! ;0
My fault for getting too overconfident. *chuckle*

Oooo...
Interview on HardTalk
(Thanks to the Rickmanix Circle. It's from before the HP debut, and Private Lives was still in London - a very nice LONG interview!)
Really delightful art page
Outake Bob Roberts Stills
(Right click on the piccies and get the original page addy from 'properties'. Don't know if these were circulated, they are lovely.) The other piccies on this website are...strange! I wonder who this person is. Wait, better not to reason why, eh?

*Phew, my eyes adore him, but my brain is spent! 23 pages of google images.....yipes!*
Yours, PL ;)
PunkLibrarian
NYC, USA - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 01:05:21 AM


Always happy to be of service. :)
Let me show you some more gratitiude for tons of nights reading here on the GB. (Please note: these sites and pictures were found with googelsearches for images of AR, if I don't mention your site it's prolly because I'm so lazy. Sorry!)

a href="http://www.spatzel.net/alfrey/arkhamslayer/lazarus02.jpg">Oooo... a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/progs/01/hardtalk/rickman07nov.ram">Interview on HardTalk (Thanks to the Rickmanix Circle. It's from before the HP debut, and Private Lives was still in London - a very nice LONG interview!) a href="http://www.nasubionna.net/voice/index2.html">Really delightful art page a href="http://members.aol.com/prisab234/BRstills.html">Outake Bob Roberts Stills (Right click on the piccies and get the original page addy from 'properties'. Don't know if these were circulated, they are lovely.) The other piccies on this website are...strange! I wonder who this person is. Wait, better not to reason why, eh? *Phew, my eyes adore him, but my brain is spent! 23 pages of google images.....yipes!* Yours, PL ;)
PunkLibrarian
NYC, USA - Friday, July 11th 2003 - 12:55:00 AM


"Heroical and twice nightly" is old fashioned acting lingo. PL plays heroes. The troupe puts on two shows a night, as they used to back then. Twice nightly. OR it could mean that PL is such an animal in the sack that he does it twice nightly. Or maybe he actually said "thrice nightly."
Foxy Mulder , <canwemoveonalready?foo>
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 09:10:01 PM

Italics fixed.
Suz (D.o.C.)
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 08:42:47 PM

Suzanne, I forgot the precious and powerful "/", so guess what? I'm sorry, please fix it, thanks.
Joan
Pa, USA - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 07:45:47 PM

Smitten too: regarding Totally Smitten--it's not what you think. TS's so-called "partner" is his wife--a lovely and loyal AR fan. (They are both excellent people.) Sometimes a man stands up for his wife!!!

And, your stuff was funny too.
Anonymous, Okay??? , <IDsWithheldToProtectTheInnocentfoo>
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 07:44:38 PM


The fifth photo of AR as Snape reminds me of Tiny Tim. Now, I'm not saying they look alike, just reminds me of him, as seen on the link from Magda Canada, Lulka's Snape CoS.

BTW, I like to play with words, but I don't like them "mangled", hope someone can solve the mystery I posted below!
Joan
Pa, USA - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 07:27:50 PM


Not from AABA:

Little chap, strands like me mate
Her red hair comb, twice nightly

I don't understand "Heroical, twice nightly". Heroical could mean "larger than life size". Little chap, stands like me--larger than life size, twice nightly...still confusing!

Rose asked PL how he would know his son, but his response are unclear. Is it in the book?
Joan
Pa, USA - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 07:09:13 PM


Well, dinner's going to be late because I was so enjoying Lulka's Snape scenes--what a great idea! Thanks for posting the link!
sonoma
usa - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 05:35:55 PM

Thanks Magda for letting us know about Lulka's site - it's fantastic!
Aussiegirl
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 05:08:32 PM

Totally Smitten is a guy ?!? I didn't realise that! Not that it matters.
Smitten Too
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 04:50:22 PM

Yes, totally smitten, I agree that an innocent dedicated Rickman fan should not be blocked. But I haven't received any e-mail messages from either you or your partner (and I don't know your addresses). Did you send it to Suz@mail.usa.com? I can no longer receive or access e-mail at my Prodigy address (emeraldegg@prodigy.com). So please resend to my usa address so that we may discuss this via e-mail.

And to clear up any misconceptions, totally smitten was not banned for his first story (it's in the archives as you can see), but for subsequent posts which became very vulgar and for extremely rude remarks made to other members here (among other things which I will not discuss on the GB). Be grateful if you did not see them.

Suzanne , <Suz@mail.usa.comfoo>
TX, USA - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 04:37:19 PM


Wow... Loads of Rickmaniacs here. Who agrees with me and says AR was criminally underused in CoS? I WANT MORE SNAPE IN HP-MOVIES!!! By the way, nice site, keep on rockin'!
Lucia , <lulka@lulka.skfoo>
Slovakia - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 04:20:28 PM

Barbara the Australian: You are right about the actor in TMD whose real name is actually Stella Maris. She plays the part of Maura. This seems too much of a coincidence. Can anyone shed some light on this? I am a bit curious myself.
Debi
Springfield, Virginia, - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 04:13:18 PM

Viva la Totally Smitten! No mas el baniciamente, por favor!
Loco para TS
La ciudad de Rickmania, - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 04:10:32 PM

Why are you blocked "Totally Smitten"? If I recall your only "sin" was the original Manchester Guardian article (unless you're posting under other names) and I and many others thought that was brilliant! I've been meaning to ask - was it an original piece written by you or did you adapt it from something else and just insert AR's name? Whichever, it was very entertaining and prompted me to get a bit creative and write the follow up pieces. It also prompted Claudia to do her web-cam pictures which lots of people also enjoyed. Hope to see more of your work!
Smitten Too
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 03:06:31 PM

hello suzanne is it not about time you removed the block on my IP, as you can see if i feel so minded i can find a way round it any time and as i wrote in my email you have not deprived me of posting but a dedicated rickfan. as an adult i would have thought that your spite towards me should not spill over and disallow an innocent party from posting.if you do not want to discuss this on the guestbook you have my email address where we could go into the situation more deeply. i feel that you were railroaded into your decision to block me by others who were just as guilty and whereas i have no inclination to post any further my partner does.oh and by the way if any of your so called rickman fans are interested i have a copy of fallen angels for sale at forty dollars it is in vhs pal format so you would need a video player that is capable of playing it ps excuse no capitals could not be bothered regards totally smitten
totally smitten
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 01:26:19 PM

Oh Lulka! Thank you! My favorite way of watching AR movies to is just watch HIS bits. Now if someone would just make me a VHS or DVD of "Just Alan" stuff, I'd be in heaven. I watched Die Hard again yesterday, but only had 40 minutes, so my ff button got a lot of action. Thank you!
kit
pa, usa - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 01:10:35 PM

To Punk Librarian: Thank you for the link and pics of Alan. It's fun to see him behind the scenes.
Carole
Canada - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 11:49:01 AM

AR didn't get a lot of screen time in HP and the Chamber of Secrets but someone made up a nifty site that gives the pictures and lines of all his appearances in the movie. You'll find it here: Lulka's Snape in CoS

Magda
Canada - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 11:13:03 AM

An excellent point, Sue. I'd LOL, but I don't want to get banned.
Moaning Myrtle
First toilet on the left, - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 09:26:06 AM

SPOILER HP5 -- well, sorta
Snip
What did everyone think of the The Order of The Phoenix? I thought it fell flat at the end. Ali - Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 09:33:16 AM
Unsnip

I thought so too, but then, a week or so later the ending has been haunting me. I keep thinking about it and it has "grown" on me. If that makes sense. I mean, the impact of that death can't be even touched upon in the little time between it and the end of the school year. I think now that it's anticlimactic-ness and senselessness (falling through a veil and no body to cry over? geez) is going to be a major part of Harry's emotional state. Rather than being lame, like I originally thought, I think it's starkness is going to be a major factor. Think about it. No closure. No body. Major guilt. No family. Yipes.

But, I was a bit disappointed in the whole blood-Dursleys thing. But it did answer some questions, so it served it's purpose. Can't wait for book 6!!!
witch lisa
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 07:57:03 AM

Ah! Very interesting Dogma photos. Now I understand why AR never had kids!! ;)
Barbie , <IHadTheSameProblemWithKenfoo>
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 07:25:07 AM

Good news! Some footage from PoA is going to be shown Saturday, July 19th at the Comic-con 2003 in San Diego. Read more here. Hopefully this means a teaser trailer will soon be forthcoming.
VH
Ohio, USA - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 07:13:33 AM

Callette, yes, it does appear that way doesn't it. However you might recall that some of the "arguing and nastiness" was brought about by some of the "fun"!!Which just goes to prove the old adage "You can't please all the people all the time etc etc......";)
Sue
England - Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 05:19:37 AM

Is is just me or is there really less arguing and nastiness now that the guestbook has moved? That is very positive. But there seems to be less fun stuff, too. That is a pity.
Callette
- Thursday, July 10th 2003 - 03:08:09 AM

Here we are:
Click here for the Index Page of the piccies of Alan...without his appendage, or, rather, with codpiece.
Remember to click the number (size of the photo) to get the full size picture, or click "next" for the next unbelievably heroic photo.
Also found on the site are "Misc." piccies, underwhich I found the darker photo of Alan standing about.

I certainly hope you will all take the utmost care in not giving yourselves miniheart-attacks when visiting the index. ;)
PunkLibrarian
NYC, USA - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 10:31:06 PM


For TooShyTwo, sorry, no, I haven't reversed the image of AR and Ken doll. However! On most PCs there is a file under "Accesories" called "Paint" which will afford the luxury of "flip horizontal". If you "save picture as " by right clicking the piccy, you can keep the photo and reverse it yourself. Neat, eh? It's what I use, especially when making up transfers for t-shirts. That shot of AR and Ken doll would be a doozie for casual sleepwear. *Oh, the website is Kevin Smith's, and it's HIS FAULT! for taking that piccy of Alan. Actually, there's several on the site. Give me a moment, and I'll post the spot. :)
PunkLibrarian
NYC, USA - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 10:15:49 PM

AABA --

PL's comments to Rose.... The first part, as I remember it, is:
Little chap, looks like me....


Barbara the WallpaperER
- Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 10:06:43 PM


O'Hara :little chap, stands like me Rose: hows that? Ohara: heroical, twice nightly any close captioners out there, corrections appreciated{although I think I have all his movie lines memorized, whilst he doesn't remember them after he is finished with them, if you believe that-not sure I do}
ACC
- Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 07:55:55 PM

Hi all, This week the Harry Potter and the order of the phoenix Cd tapes came in for us to listen to from the Library. There are 23 discs to listen to. It was a rainy day and a wonderful way to spend some time today. We got up to tape 6 and hope to listen to more tomorrow. We have them on loan until the 21st but will return them sooner than that so someone else may have a chance too. It is so nice to hear the story read and listening to how the characters develop in the plot etc. My son and I finished the book the first week it came out so are really enjoying the tapes. Jim Dale is an excellent person to narrate these HP stories. Try to reserve them at the Library if the hold isnt to long on the tapes. I believe they also come in cassette form too. Have a nice evening everyone-off to bed early as my son had a birthday sleepover and we are exhausted in this household. Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 07:51:57 PM

As memory serves, the second part is "Heroical, twice nightly."
Georgiana
Seattle - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 07:31:27 PM

From AABA. Rose & PL O'Hara sharing a drink. He says,
"Little chap (words unknown)"
"(words unknown) twice nightly." What are the missing words?
Joan
Pa, USA - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 06:40:43 PM

hiya! pretty cool site you got here! kepp it up!! right question time. please dont think me rude but i've been on this site a few times and you haven't put up your video or audio galleries back up yet(by the way i neva got to see them when they were up! doh!!)so my questio? when are you putting thease galleries back up?? me so desperate to see and all those files that were up there!(pleadingly) (balls up fist in frustration!) e-mail me back with a answer asapluv + peace hippie ~x~
hippie , <hippie_mad_cow@hotmail.comfoo>
mad town, oh! no! not oopseyland!!! - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 05:17:47 PM

Chandra: it's really not a spoiler if you tell us what a line from the Commentary says. So please just tell us what it is or give us more detail about what is happening on screen when he says it.
Magda
Canada - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 04:23:36 PM

Also, did anybody else hear the priceless line in the Two Kevins Commentary at Marions Castle Scene I?? I don't want to spoil it, you just have to hear what Costner says... If you have, just high five me or something....
Chandra
NC, - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 03:55:27 PM

Hello, raining like the Dickens...I've re-read The Philosophers Stone this week. A couple of things. Harry thought that Snape could read minds...he didn't know why,

and...

Dumbledore insisted that Harry use "Voldemort" over "He Who Shall Not Be Named" because...fear of a name increases fear of a thing itself.... In this latest book, he is told to stop calling Voldemort by name. Harry keeps arguing that Dumbledore says the name...and he is told that he is not strong enough to utter it.
Chandra
NC, - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 03:52:22 PM


I finally watched the RHPOT special edition DVD last night, and I came up with more convincing evidence of JK Rowling's secret Rickmania: In the beginning of the film, when Nottingham and his crew attack Robin's father, what are they all wearing? Masks and hoods, of course, just like Death Eaters!!! This on its own might not be very convincing, but when added to our already-not-insignificant list, the picture grows clearer!
Julia
Calgary, Canada - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 03:13:13 PM

hand?! My legs (ie, my lap) feel semi-bloodless! I've only reached the first Potions class with Snape. ***SPOILERS!*** As someone looking for employment, and bored of tackling the chores, I can empathise with Sirius! His pent-up anger, or, his desire to get out and DO something, could backfire with consequences for everyone. Moody's reason for showing HP the photo of the original Order was to remind him that they knew happier times. Harry, of course, focuses on the negative. Good ol' Lupin: He's a virtuous "quiet man" I'd want in my corner!
Ann
AZ , USA - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 10:40:53 AM

Really, rickmaniacs! The idea is not who AR looks like, but who looks like AR!!!! His face is so mobile that he can look like anything, English, Irish, Italian, Russian, German, etc.(I see a lot of Slav in his cheekbones and eyes) So ladies (or gentelmen), true fans (or nutty people like me)look for AR-ness, not the other way around!
kit
pa, usa - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 09:42:11 AM

I think the resemblance has been mentioned before, but at certain shots in the In Demand-video, Alan reminds me of Leonard Cohen.
Letty
The Netherlands - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 07:37:49 AM

Hmmmm, Sonoma--that's a new one on me. The only place that lists Alan Rickman along with the title Staging Youth Theatre is Amazon (not Amazon UK, not OCLC, not the publisher's website, not the various online theater bookshops), so I wonder... Time for another ILL! By the way, while searching Amazon for details on the book, I ran across a familiar name on a list: Fausta's Favorite Alan Rickman Stuff. What fun!
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Wednesday, July 9th 2003 - 05:05:37 AM

I was browsing and came across a book called "Staging Youth Theatre: A Practical Guide" by Rex Doyle. The cover says the forward is by Alan Rickman. Just curious if anyone knows anything about it?
sonoma
usa - Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 11:58:34 PM

Or my Mum! LOL
Janine
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 10:09:53 PM

The question is about who AR reminds you of not who he "looks like". (She pointed out cheerfully).

I was talking about photos or tinyinstances in films. In AABA, when dressed as Captain Hook, AR reminds me of Elizabeth Taylor! (?) I know that sounds silly but let me explain: his make-up is black, heavy, arched eyebrows with blue eyesshadow, exaggerated black eye-liner, and a thick, heavy black wig. It's the eyebrow make-up that caught my eye. Their shape looks more like Liz's than Alan's natural brow shape.
Star-gazer Lily
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 08:45:58 PM


Go, Sue, Go! Everyone cheer Sue on to victory. How does your hand Feel?
I love the Ken doll Pic!
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 05:07:57 PM

That AR with Ken doll picture is mean!
Stop teasing us Alan Rickman!!!
Too Shy Two
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 04:47:10 PM

Alan Rickman is the coolest actor. I love his roles in the Harry Potter movies and in Dogma. He is so cool! ^_^
Devon LePore , <Doogan763@aol.comfoo>
Rochester, New York, - Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 03:25:18 PM

Hi Kelly, I thought that picture of AR with the Ken doll was cute and funny, too. It's the awful black-dyed hair that made me cringe. Probably from "Dogma" set. He's an "angel".

Do you have plans to see him at the stage door with this photo and are you planning to ask for his autograph? Not me!

PunkLibrarian, do you have the "reverse" angle of the pic?
Too Shy
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 03:23:58 PM


Just finished chapter 13!!
Sue
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 03:01:51 PM

I thought the picture was very cute and funny, and just proves that Alan has a healthy perspective on things and doesn't take himself too seriously. He was just having a bit of fun. Lighten up people, life's too short.
Kelly
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 01:39:17 PM

ACC: Maybe Alan is a ham. Acting is about showing off! I agree with you, it made me cringe, too. I'd say to him, what the hello were you thinking of, Alan?

Half a million people isn't too many. There are six billion people in the world, that means (here in USA) 6000 million!!! That Ken Doll and AR photo proves AR really belongs in show(off)-biz. What a sense of humor! you too, ACC!
Joan
Pa, USA - Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 01:16:59 PM


I thought Dogma was brave, as was Dark Harbor-it takes guts to take off your clothes, knowing a half million people are going to freeze frame and zoom in on you. Talk about being able to identify a willy in a lineup! {no I didn't care to know him that well}Standing there with your pants down without the above appendage takes guts too. It makes me cringe to look upon that photo, doesn't seem respectful or dignified, somehow. I think that Judas Kiss was so astoundingly bad that it took guts for all of the actors to be in it and "Play" was a gutsy perfomance, if ever I saw one, IMO...
ACC
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 12:58:07 PM

Where are you now Sue?
MME
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 12:12:31 PM

Some of us are still reading it out loud!!!
Sue
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 10:59:06 AM

Ooops!??? I try it again. I wonder if you share my looking forward very very much to the next episodes, e.g. HP movies, regarding the increasingly important part Mr. Rickman is apparently supposed to have. Do you also imagine all those eye-starring scenes on screen when Harry is receiving private lessons from Snape? I cannot wait, I tell you. But I do also sincerely hope that in the end, in parts 6 and 7, the whole HP thing turns out to be more of a real challenge for Mr. Rickman: really up to his level and a bit demanding for him, not just the Richard III thing he has been showing over the recent episodes. Which of course has been breathtaking, ensnaring the senses, you name it. What do you think?
Karin
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 10:53:34 AM

I do not know
Karin
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 10:32:28 AM

Ali, we discussed "Order" quite a bit and speaking for myself, while I enjoyed the book, and J.K. Rowling's writing, there were so many loose ends and unexplained stupidity, which led to the problems faced by Harry and the others. Apparently, all due to Harry's being only fifteen. Hopefully, she will make the next two books primarily about Snape. (She says with tongue in cheek):)
MME
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 10:13:48 AM

What did everyone think of the The Order of The Phoenix? I thought it fell flat at the end.
Ali
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 09:33:16 AM

Thanks, Sue. I can see it when directed to a specific photo with the comparison in mind, but it would have never occurred to me independently.

I'm still amazed how good an actor he is, that a man with such a distinctive voice and demeanor can convincingly be such different characters on stage and film.

And the voices! That you actually hear Eustacia or Dicky-Bird. In "Magic," even the two words of the youth asking for a light on the street, "Me?", "No," so distinctly different.

Now that's acting! And seemless it is. Although I do fear he is not quite as adventuresome as he was in his younger days.

Georgiana
Seattle - Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 06:31:40 AM


Can't sleep...Castleton or Edinburgh...Anyway, as for AR looking like other people in photos, I haven't thought so yet. But I do think he's had different distinctive faces as he's aged. I suppose he had a more dashing look earlier on, but I really like how his face has softened over time. Maybe it's just that he seems to be smiling more often in the photos I've seen of him as an older man? I tend to think of the younger AR with the more cynical, intense (but also marvelous) look of say, Achilles, as in the photo of him seated with his arms crossed. One day I hope to put all of my internet photos of him in chronological order and just sit back and enjoy his metamorphosis over the years.
sonoma
usa - Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 02:31:46 AM

Dustin Hoffman? Other than them both having two eyes, one nose,one mouth, and AR looking a bit grim, like Dustin looks in most of his photos, I don't see the resemblance. But then, I think that Snape looks a bit like my granny. She's been dead for quite a long time, though, so it is hard to compare...hair style was the same.
ACC
- Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 01:01:27 AM

Georgiana-I was only referring to photographs not performances. I know that several other people have THIS photo reminds them of Dustin Hoffman.
Sue
England - Tuesday, July 8th 2003 - 12:53:22 AM

Great News!!! On August 21st, 2003 the Alan Rickman an unauthorized biography is being released..I just pre-ordered mine from Barnes and Nobles. The author is Maureen Paton I believe (not sure-too excited to see this book being released...Cant wait--sweet dreams of AR everyone- Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 10:07:52 PM

When Stella asked O'Hara to take her to bed he should have taken her over his knee and given her the experience of a good old fashioned fatherly spanking, but knowing these two they would probably enjoy it!
Rene
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 09:57:04 PM

Sounds like a fab sequel to me!
What Planet am I on??
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 09:12:28 PM

Well, my dear Aussiegirl. If you think Rickman may not be innocent, perhaps he's guilty!
I shall sent him immediately to (dramatic pause) Journalism School!!!
Sheriff of Nottingham
Country? None of your business, twit! - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 08:26:41 PM

AABA/The sequel: Stella finds out she is pregnant and nine months later gives birth. She has a boy, but he is accidentally switched with another boy who is born the same day. Fifteen years later, "her" son joins a production company where she works as a bell-ringer. She still doesn't know Potter is gay, but she wants to get her mind off of him somehow. They meet and she starts thinking she is Mrs. Robinson and he, being only fifteen, wants her to teach him how to eat Chinese food properly. After several weeks, the hospital informs her of the mistake and the two of them spend years in therapy.
justathought
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 08:21:15 PM

Looking at different photos, AR's face can look so variable. Sometimes his nose actually looks short and his chin large. From an over-head shot his face looks round and innocent. His eyes look so sexy when they are slightly closed covering the top part of the colored part of his eyes. There's seems to be eye-liner ***under*** his upper lids, that really enhances this sexy pose in some photos. He is so beautiful!
Know him, love him
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 07:54:50 PM

AR is both married and single. Rima thinks he's married, his fans consider him single. AR keeps us guessing what he thinks (I hope this isn't a case of "confuse the enemy".)
AR is private
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 07:34:19 PM

He may not be technically married, but I have never met a "single" man that was less available than he is.
ACC
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 07:32:24 PM

Aussiegirl, AR must be innocent--didn't you see the picture of him with the Ken Doll? He's an *angel*!!!
See photo from "PunkLibrarian" below.
AR is innocent
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 07:12:28 PM

Whoops! Sorry "AR is innocent" (do you really think he is?) Looks like I've got egg ommlette on my face! ;)
Aussiegirl
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 06:37:56 PM

I don't know, Ali-Pat, Sue. I have never found him to look remotely like anyone else. Occasionally, one character might remind me of another (for example, one of the extra scenes from "Galaxy Quest"--the "I-am-a-rock" business--has definite overtones of Mesmer), but even those moments are rare, in spite of how unmistakable that voice is. Now, occasionally another actor might remind me momentarily of Mr. Rickman--never for long enough.
Georgiana
Seattle - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 06:34:06 PM

Er, AR is single too.
Single is Single, Married is Married
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 06:02:18 PM

Pssst, Aussiegirl--you're not supposed to say *AR* in bed with the girl, you're suppposed to say *O'Hara* in bed with the girl.
AR is innocent
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 05:49:21 PM

Did you all love it when she starts telling HIM how to Foo-King? I need a screen saver of his face at that moment. LOL She is egg-foo-YOUNG.
MME
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 05:26:12 PM

Snort-I thought Stella was talking about chinese food--foo- king...
ACC
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 05:18:23 PM

I don't believe it - first time I've attempted a link and it actually works!
Aussiegirl
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 04:40:34 PM

ACC - you're right! Chad Kroeger does remind one of AR! I had heard of Nickelback but had no idea what any of the band members looked like so I did a search just to see for myself. As soon as I saw the photo, even though it didn't have their names, I immediately knew which one you meant. Here's the link to the site Nickelback.com And ACC why wish you were 30 years younger? You never know, maybe he prefers older women! ;)

All this AABA talk of accents made me laugh. When I watched the movie about six months ago I found Stella hard to understand. There was one particular scene (of AR and her in bed) where, try as I might, I just couldn't understand what she was saying. After much rewinding and replaying I burst out laughing when I realised it was actually the F word she was saying!
Aussiegirl
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 04:39:12 PM


Mr. Rickman is one of my favorite actors. Although I have seen as many of his movies as I can, Sense and Sensibility is my favorite.
Jan Frye , <jnfrye2001@hotmail.comfoo>
Carlisle, Pennsylvania, U.S. - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 02:10:58 PM

Julia - we had The Harpers Hitchock Party Pic Up while you were away!;)
Sue
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 02:06:58 PM

Arggghhh ACC And I thought Chad was all mine!!!LOL
Sue
Oldenoughtoknowbetter, England - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 02:02:06 PM

I've just returned from a two-week sojourn in England, and have a few tidbits for you: First, the June issue of Harpers and Queen has a pic of Alan at the Hitchcock Blonde party. Second, on a visit to the newly-renovated Almeida theatre, I learned that Alan attended every single night's performance of The Winter Guest. Third, the Jane Austen Centre in Bath has an exclusive photo of Alan as Colonel Brandon, sent in by Emma Thompson. Very dishy, and if my photo-of-a-photo turns out, I will scan it and post it.
Julia
Calgary, Canada - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 12:30:43 PM

People in the states had a similar wartime experience, and the Great Depression also had many people saving string, margarine wrappers etc. I think some of our "comfort food" recipes, like bread pudding, were a type of "recycling". As for look alikes, Chad Kroeger of Nickelback looks like a young Rickman with long hair, except that he fits his nose a bit more, as he is not as skinny-if I were thirty years younger-you younguns-he is single!
ACC
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 12:20:26 PM

Yes Ali-Pat he has the odd look-a-like moment!! There is a definite Dustin Hoffman pic out there and even one with a touch of the screwed-up eyes a la Richard Gere(Eek!!! heaven forbid!!)
Sue
England - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 11:17:43 AM

I seem to remember that there was an Actor in TMD with the name Stella Maris. It was the lady who had the little girl - Lovely scene with Nina holding the Baby! Something in this? Janine from Vic. I can get AABA here at my local video store. Maybe they can order you in one? I love AR as Capt. HOOK!!!!!!!!! He would be so great as Charles the Second. Line these two up side by side!!!!! They are Alike. Bye!
Barbara the Australian
Gold Coast, Australia - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 07:03:13 AM

Name Checkers R Us here. In both the original edition and the movie tie-in edition of the novel An Awfully Big Adventure, the name of Stella's mom is "Renee", which they pronounce "REEnee" in the film. And yes--there are two Stellas in the film. Renee, apparently unhappy with her own name, used to call herself "Stella Maris". Perhaps this was a stage name she created just in case she ever needed one. I think PL hints at this. In any case, she liked the name "Stella" so much that she gave it to her daughter.

As for AR looking like someone else at times (Hey--he says I look alike! Chico Marx), there is a scene in Dark Harbor, the one where the Young Man is applying suntan lotion to Alexis's back while David looks on in the background, in which AR looks for all the world like Michael Caine. Every time I see that shot, I just can't shake the impression. Also, in the screen shots I have seen of Pity in History, he reminds me a powerful lot of John Lennon, which is something like divine convergance for me.
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 06:10:36 AM


I just had to go check the kitchen scene in AABA and YES it definitely is Renie (twice). My father was a Liverpudlian and so I know the accent well enough. I love that final scene where PL realises the awful truth. So much expression in that face.
sue
England - Monday, July 7th 2003 - 05:37:34 AM

AABA WAR TIME: My mother in law lived in England during that time. Buzz bombs flying overhead, many of her friends dying- here yesterday, gone today. There is not a mean bone in her body. She is the most charitable person I know, and will help anyone. They saved everything because food was scarce and they shared what little they had with others "less fortunate." I know many, many people in England from having a large family and friend base there, and they are so far from the selfish American yuppy culture of the eighties, especially the generation who lived through the war. The people who lived through the war did suffer significant trauma, even if they do not show it everyday by whining. To this day, she has a tough time throwing away a margarine wrapper without proper thought to it.
yes more pics please Punk Librarian!
- Monday, July 7th 2003 - 05:30:30 AM

Apparently Angels don't have knickers either.
ACC
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 11:02:30 PM

Oh, (help me to contain myself!) here's another -

Alan standing in the dark, looking contemplative in a moment of silence.

Wow... I wonder if there are more? I especially like the

look of "The Actor at Work".

Very moody, just like we like 'im.

I shall continue hunting for more!
PunkLibrarian
NYC, USA - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 09:51:28 PM


Oh my METATRON!

I had to pop by to deliver this GOODIE for all!

Click here for a piccy of something wonderfully funny! Namely Alan in a candid photo with one Ken Doll.

I know you'll enjoy the bemused look on his face. Amongst other things. :)
PunkLibrarian
NYC, USA - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 09:41:25 PM


Alan Rickman has the most gaze-worthy face. Sometimes he ***reminds*** me of someone else. In AABA, in the scene where he's shouting at the water, he reminds me of Anthony Quinn, with the wind blowing his hair away from his hairline, he has a nice, oval-shaped face.

I know someone who reminds me of him, but like it says in the movie, "There's no substitute for the real thing."!!

All you who met him in person - you are so lucky!!
Star-gazer Lily
US - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 09:24:07 PM


ACC-I watched with CC and the name was Rene. or REENEE :)
MME
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 07:41:11 PM

Re: Pam H. I enjoyed the first game too! My son finished first and showed me the ending. A had a good laugh. I didn't finish the second game yet but you're right if you are following Snape too often in the potion class, he gets angry and he can remove all your points.
Carole , <carolegag70@hotmail.comfoo>
Canada - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 06:58:32 PM

I still think her name is Jeanie, not Rene-anyone with closed captioning have the answer to this one?
ACC
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 06:43:44 PM

*SPOILERS AABA* Aha! I thought that girl looked only about ten years old! I thought O'Hara said the mother changed her own name to Stella Maris (Star of the Sea). I thought there were two Stellas'!

How confusing too that Stella claps watching buildings burn, yet tells someone (Bunny?) that candle flames make her cold and that they are the stuff of nightmares.

I still think we would understand alot of their behavior if we take into consideration the trauma of war.
Miss Teri, mystery and misery
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 06:43:17 PM


I'm going to have to watch AABA again! I've only seen it once, I really have to do a review to see the timeline stuff. At the end of the movie - I felt that the girl's future was bleak... really bleak - what was she going to do?
I felt bad when O'Hara drowned, it was so clearly not a suicide...
It was so sad,
but the toughness, the meanness
I lived through a recession in Cleveland, Ohio in the early 80s and it was mean and bleak -vacant storefronts, trash everywhere, nothing getting fixed, everything old. People had small grasping natures - everyone working being threatened -- we moved to Washington, DC and were amazed when people hired us and paid us for our work ontime - no checks bounced, ever. And didn't threaten us --never threatened us -- we've never looked back, The post-war Liverpool was like this, the meanness is real, The filmmakers portrayed the feeling of this accurately. It may be sad, but many people become small minded and mean when faced with scarcity -- and many of us try like hell to keep our values intact and live within the scarcity - we cut back, but we are still human. Some will become rabid.
Chandra
NC, - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 06:17:21 PM

Hi everyone, Did anyone here on the site ever complete the PC game Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone? It has quite a wonderful surprise at the end involving Snape!! I am stuck in the Potions part where you have to pick the right potion (The table turns at an angle and is rather difficult to find the correct potion bottle!) Over the 4th of July holiday, my niece finished the game, and was surprised by the ending..Now I know why all those magic beans are so important to collect during the game.. This game is quite a challenge if you havent played before. They have the potions class etc. and if you stick around to much, Snape gets rather "Cranky"!! After all the talk of the AABA, I cant wait to get it at the Library again but will have to wait until September when my son goes back to school... Anyway, have a good one, Pam
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 06:03:00 PM

Sorry to contradict, Miss Teri, but the girl outside clapping during the air raid was not Rene but Stella. You hear Uncle Vernon calling, "Stella! Stella!", as he comes outside to drag her back indoors. The shots of Stella in a drawer on the floor surrounded by candles occured at a (much) earlier date, when Stella's mom was still in the picture.

MORE AABA SPOILERISMS

I am with the folks who are confused by the timeline in this film! I think what must have happened was that Rene became pregnant in Liverpool at the time PL was in a play a the local theatre, then she ran off to London for a time after PL left (perhaps running after him only to discover he was married?) and then she came back to Liverpool to deliver the baby. After Vernon and Lily threw her out, she went back to that artist's apartment where her former trysts with PL took place.

Oh how I love this movie! It is so complicated--I have woven and unwoven the tapestry of my understanding of this film many, many times.
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, USA - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 05:39:14 PM


Janine (and all other Aussies) - AABA has indeed been released in Australia. I hired it about 6 months ago at Civic Video so do try to hunt it down. I also remember when it played at the cinema but I didn't go to see it unfortunately.
Aussiegirl
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 04:18:31 PM

kit, pa: Maybe it's too harsh to call these people "failures".

War. It makes people desparate for happiness.

*SPOILERS AABA* The war scene (l941) shows Rene outsideing during an air raid clapping at the bombed burning buildings. She looks disturbed. In the shelter there is Uncle Vernon and Aunt Lily, baby Stella on the floor in a drawer, surrounded by candles.

I'm sure the war has something to do with O'Hara's behavior, as with everyone elses.
Miss Teri
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 03:12:27 PM


Kit, I was thinking the same thing, I am surprised Hermione and Ron aren't Bunny and Jeffwee!
MME
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 02:26:12 PM

AliPat and Joan, I think we're on the same thought wave-lengths about AABA.(spoilers) I do like and not like this movie. The "like" is for the fine acting done by nearly everyone, and the "don't like" is the gritty depressed quality of the film. ALL the people, except Uncle Vernon maybe, are fairly disgusting failures. Everyone is mean, selfish,unhappy, and grasping and none of them have realized their ambitions, including PL. They are all in this close to penury condition and the theatre company is a penny-pinching operation.Potter says: "You're the best cast we could have...for the money." Even Rose is hard-hearted, saying that PL's death will be good for business. The timeline stuff that I mentioned before bothers me. If PL lived in Liverpool and with Rene, why didn't he know where her family lived? Why does Uncle Vernon say she got pregnant in London? Why does Rose know PL won't find Rene? If she knows who Rene was, then she must know who Stella is! Rose doesn't say this in the book, only in the movie. As we all know, movie scripts do whatever they want to a story, including mangling logic and plot line. Did JK Rowling read this book? We have Unvle Vernon, Aunt Lily, and Mr. Potter! If this posts twice, I'm sorry. My computer is acting weird.
kit
pa, usa - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 12:01:24 PM

Ali-Pat,

I agree with what you said in your post below. You either "read" my mind or read my posts because I basically said the same thing. I read your post saying that you want the AABA discussion to continue. I'm very grateful for this discussion because this movie really got to me. Movies rarely make me cry. If AR wants his audience to "work" when they watch a movie, this one certainly did!
Joan
Pa, USA - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 09:25:12 AM


Wow Janine, that's great news. You know, Alan Rickman could have been a really great "thing," he would have been perfect! Just think, "Thing" wallpapers and screen savers. An opportunity missed. LOL
lee
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 07:22:53 AM

O.T...completely ..I have solved one of life's mysteries. Thing was actualy played by Lurch! Ha!
Janine
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 06:24:10 AM

MME, AABA; O'Hara told Stella about her mother making up her own name "Stella Maris" which means *star of the sea*. Perhaps she was also in theater. I thought Uncle Vernon was nice to Potter to get his niece a job in the theater as a student.

Most people seem to think O'Hara's death was a tragety and I agree.
I thought Stella was calling the time line not to hear her mother's voice, but just to dial anything so she could pretend she was talking to her mother. Uncle Vernon said that Stella kept her feelings to herself and so encouraged her to learn about acting.
I don't recall any color photo of the mother, there was a photo on O'Hara's nightstand in black and white; I thought it looked like the girl in the beginning of the movie in the war scene which was also black and white showing Stella Maris.
Miss Teri
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 05:32:43 AM


AABA SPOILER BELOW

It has never occured to me that PL might not have been Stella's dad. That casts a new shade of light on things! Very possible (as Rene was indeed a tramp) and very interesting...and it does make O'Hara's death all the more tragic. As for that death, I don't think he intended to drown himself, but I also don't think he fought to save his life once he felt it ebbing away. Yet, he might have considered suicide eventually anyway. In the book he is portrayed as a rather pathetic figure--failed actor, a failure at marriage, living in the memories of his glory days. Consider this--wouldn't there be an interesting sequel possible if O'Hara had been rescued from that fall and had been given the chance to live on and cope with his failures?
Ali-Pat, loving every minute of the CityFolk Festival in
Dayton, OH, - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 05:25:38 AM


Desert Island DVDs

6 reniassance era/costume drama films I would like in the cabana [special reasons/moments]:

Shakespeare in Love [ending scenes where they are moving to Virginia - There were People in Virginia during Shakespeare's time!]
Robin Hood Prince of Thieves [a must have]
The Man in the Iron Mask
The Princess Bride [I love this film, great cast, great writing]
The Mists of Avalon [big, long, made for TV, I got time...]
Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - Special Edition
Chandra
NC, - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 04:18:17 AM


Six degrees of AR - So, the idea occurs to me, the posters here are all AR fans, why don't we do a Desert Island DVD list.

You have three months in a remote resort, there's fun people to hang out with at the beach bar, plenty of rum and limes, seafood....scuba...catamaran, windsurfing...little red Vespa to get around the island... a cabana, hammock.... with all the amenities... you will have time to just kick back
what DVDs do you bring?
and they don't have to be all AR films.
Chandra
NC, - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 03:58:49 AM


AABA: Here are my impressions after watching for the first time. P.L. O'Hara took Stella to his place for "tea" with full intention of bedding her just because she reminded him of Rene. He was able to overlook her age because he was in such a mental state of denial, evident in his calling "her" name and the turpentine smell in his room. He was recreating Stella Maris in his mind and it was so powerful that he was able to hypocritically scold potter for almost the same age-related predatory acts.

I don't think Stella was actually his bio daughter; he was under a false impression just like the sex of the baby. She had red hair (unlike the parents) and Rene's promiscuity is what got her kicked out of Uncle Vernon's house. She left the tiny baby behind to run around so she must not of had deep feelings for the baby's father. I doubt Rene knew who the father really was, but guessed it was PLs. I wonder why Stella's middle name wasn't Maris? Since there was no DNA testing back then, we will never know, but the fact that the writer went to such great lengths to make it a possibility that they were actually unrelated, wouldn't O'Hara's death in the end be that much more tragic?

I thought Grant's reptilian performance was good in a creepy sort of way proving he can actually act. I don't quite get the Meredith/Uncle Vernon thing. Did Meredith have the hot's for uncle Vernon, or was he tiring to get O'Hara in trouble?

And why did Stella prefer to talk to the mother's time voice instead of the Aunt who took her in? the movie didn't explain why the Aunt and Stella had no relationship.
MME
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 03:53:04 AM


Six degrees of AR - A couple of things - We watched The Princess Bride last night - Robin Wright was the princess, So that's Robin Wright! O.K. Princess Bride is a great movie, but casting Robin Wright 3 years later in RHPoT - wouldn't that have been kind of confusing? Like, haven't I seen this movie, only with Cary Elwes & Mandy Patinkin? - and Robin Wright could have been an All Purpose Princess -- I think that the two Kevins were fortunate indeed that she couldn't follow through and the part went to Mary Elizabeth Mastrontonio (sp).
Chandra
NC, - Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 03:47:53 AM

AABA spoilers-O'Hara didn't have the death mask of a man who drown. He died when he hit his head.

After he died, he fell into the water and because he served in the Navy, he was buried at sea.

The water currents move his body in such a way that it looks like he's still alive. The air escaped his lungs as the water filled them, it was not a breath.

He died symbolicly when he heard the truth, he died when he hit his head, if this did not kill him, falling in the water took away all hope of his survival.
Miss Teri
- Sunday, July 6th 2003 - 12:39:20 AM


A big thanks to Lee for submitting more of True Loves Curse tonight! You are a very talented writer and I am enjoying the stories very much. Keep up the good work-now I can go to bed!! Good Night all and have a good weekend Pam H.
Pam H.
Massachusetts, USA - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 08:56:12 PM

I dunno, Joan. I guess I like to view AR in a movie as playing a part, and not being AR. I'm teasing you girlfriend, don't take things so literally.
My Subconcious
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 07:34:01 PM

Hi everyone, Happy 4th of July!! Hope it was a good one.. I see people are discussing the movie AABA-I borrowed it from the Library last spring just to see what all the fuss was about. It is very dark and haunting-not sure if I can watch it again or not-maybe I will though and have it so the subtitles come up so I can catch some of the words that were heavily accented that I missed and give it another chance as the actors were really good in their roles. I was sure surprised by what happened in that movie and was sad also with the ending where AR's character drowns. The next day, I watched sense and sensibilty as it sort of lifted the haunting feeling I had from that other movie AABA. I also hope AR continues to play Snape in the upcoming movies as for me (and everyone else here) he is the only one that can pull off Snapes characteristics and style... If Lee is reading the GB, please submit another chapter of your story-I cant wait to see what happens next! Pam
Pam H.
Massachusetts, USA - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 07:27:22 PM

Kit pa, said that the body they took out of the water was so Rickman-like. I agree that it was awful to see AR lifted from the water, but I did not mean it literally. In fact, I thought it was a dummy, not even a stunt man, but who knows for sure. If it was actually Alan Rickman himself doing the stunt, didn't he "look" dead to you? He was supposed to be dead, not AR, but O'Hara. When I said I was expecting him to open his eyes, I was referring to the fact that AR was not dead. The sight of AR dead, even pretending to be dead is something I don't like to see and I avoid watching all his death scenes.
So "guilty" do you think the body pulled from the water was AR acting "dead" or a dummy?

Try not to take things so literally. When you watch a movie, do you ever laugh or cry, yet what you see is not real, but the feelings you have are? Right? Thank you for your concern. BTW, the sub-conscience does not know movies are pretend, unless someone lied to me about this fact.
Joan
Pa, USA - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 07:02:27 PM


Er, Joan, you do realize that AR didn't really die in that movie, and it had a point to make???
Withheld to Protect the Guilty
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 06:36:03 PM

Image: AR chased around the room by a Mini-Snape! lol! AABA: AR would never say something cutting *on record.* His agent could easily have a "cuttings file" of quotes from former cast, crew, and directors, attesting to the "certain kind of class" (as K. Smith said) Alan brings to a production. Enough said. As I remember, HP & TPOA features a strong supporting part for Snape (viz. the history of a certain willow tree).
AWF
USA` - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 05:48:32 PM

Hi sonoma! Please don't be depressed. Try to see the good in characters, it really is there. I'm still learning to concentrate on the good people do because the other way, pointing out the wrong actions and ignoring the good is, well, depressing.

It was I who was the "saddest person on earth" after watching AABA. I was afraid if I used my real name I'd hear from those old posts that were deleted. I get positive answers if I use a different name, isn't that pathetic!

This new guestbook is friendlier, but I'm still wary.
Joan
USA - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 04:35:50 PM


Iwas dissappointed with the new HP book.
ASA
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 03:31:18 PM

I finished HP, and I have to say I'm not to impressed with it. The story fell short at the end, and there was almost to much going on! I thought she should have done more with Umbridge, and more with the Ministry of MAgic. There change of heart at the end was to sudden and unrealistic. The audience is to believe that now they are good, despite there "allowing" of voldemorts's return? The "Prophecy" was a major let down too, HArry is the chosen one with whom Voldemort hates. Didn't we establish this in the first book? I don't know it just draggggeedd on and on! One positive note, Snape has a major role in this book! Anyway, I got to go, going camping. HAve a great weekend!
Ali
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 03:29:29 PM

A Concerned Citizen, Joan, and all the other non-U.K. television viewers watching AABA and the like, utilize the closed caption mode in your newer tv sets to penetrate those accents. It's also fun to watch how the actors' performances occasionally deviate from the scripts, the source of the closed captions. (30 years of working in the music biz have necessitated those closed captions fulltime in our household anyway.) Amelie, your English is suberb. And we all need a Lager! (feeble attempt at multilingual humour.)
FastFilm
Los Angeles, - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 03:17:42 PM

AABA (SPOILERS)is not a favorite of mine, but I've enjoyed the comments and watched it again recently on IFC. I saw O'Hara as an aging man desperate to hang onto youth, both in the search for his imaginary son (a younger version of him) and the affair with Stella. Yes, he was the adult in that situation, but she was using him as much as he was using her, so they both came off as victims to me. The actress's ruse only makes me like Stella less. Yes, it was clever and worked out, but she denied the cast and crew the opportunity to make honest judgments about her and their own actions, which I don't think was very fair. And as for O'Hara's death, I had it twisted in my memory that he'd actually jumped in, but I also felt he was dead the moment he found out Stella's identity and the physical death was pretty much irrelevant. My impression was that he might have even been relieved. Now I'm depressed.
sonoma
usa - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 02:43:54 PM

AABA-I'm not sure that we are all watching the same movie! It did take me a half dozen times to figure out what the lot of them were saying, and I never did get some of it till I asked on this site. Stella's mother's name was Jeanie and PL lived in the flat , perhaps with a painter friend, which is where Jeanie stayed with Stella after PL flew the coop to avoid having to marry her. The painter was gone by that time, as he would certainly have told PL the sex of the baby. Even people who are indifferent to babies usually know that much. PL abandoned Stella and Jeanie because he was immature and self centered. Jeanie abandoned the baby due to immaturity and self centeredness. Women were conquests to O'Hara, thus it never occurred to him to see his child as a real person that could be a girl. His immaturity, injuries, and sins of his life came crashing down on him, and when he was dying underwater, the picture of his baby became a picture of a girl baby-the resolution of his search-very greek tragedy, that...
ACC
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 02:25:11 PM

Hello Janine!
About AABA. AR's character (O'Hara) lectures the director for having love/sex affairs with boys, esspecially Jeremey who is very hurt by the director. Yet, O'Hara is doing the same thing to Stella, whose just 15. Another case of people not practicing what they preach. O'Hara knew what he was doing was wrong, but for some reason he could not resist the temptation. He could see how the director (Potter, played by Hugh Grant), was harming Jeremey with his indifference and taunts, but O'Hara just could not see himself and the harm he was doing (and the women did not exactly point it out to him either). The way he talked and acted was quite seductive (AR's great at portraying these kind of characters).

Sex is very powerful, that's probably one reason sex with a minor is illegal in most places.
AABA FAN
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 01:07:09 PM


I had difficulty just understanding the accents, let alone not knowing what was added to the movie or left out. I did not read the book either.
Hi kit! I'm sure O'Hara died instantly when he hit his head on the metal part of the ramp (some round object, I don't know what it's called.). His face did not show any sign of a struggle against drowning, I can not believe that he would allow himself to drown, no one has that much control. I too was saddened to see AR lifted from the water. I was even expecting him to open his eyes! That's why Melanie was so broken-hearted after watching this movie(?) Have you read the other posts from this past week? This was a good movie to discuss.
Joan
Pa, USA - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 12:45:10 PM

AABA, my two-seven-cents again. First, Stella's mother was named Rene (pronunced Reenie in the film); Stella Maris was O'Hara's pet name for her. Second, if you watch his face in the flat as he's making tea, his attitude is no way fatherly: he's planning seduction, but she gets there first. He doesn't argue! 3. All the women in the company are waiting for him to make a move..on them...he has a reputation. 4.As to looking for his great love, this was more a movie thing that a book thing. In the book Rene came home from London in disgrace (pregnant). In the movie, Vernon says this, too, but it seems to be belived that she got pregnant in Liverpool. She also lived with other men in Liverpool, apparently in that basment flat PL rents. She's run away with a man when Stella was a baby, so no one has heard from her, unless you count listening to her on the clock phone number! 5. PL was married in the book, making his hobby (sleeping with cast and crew women)a worse one. That gets left out of the movie. 6. I loved all the backstage stuff, having worked both sides of the trade. Anyone who's done community or professional theatre can identify with the problems and solutions this film shows.7. I think PL accepts that his life is over when he trips and dies fast as he sinks. I agree he is resigned to being punished for sleeping with his possible child (though if Rene had a number of flings, who knows who the father really is!) I hate the scene when they drag the body out. It looks awfully Rickman-like! This is too long. Bye!
kit
pa, usa - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 12:25:02 PM

Silly comment:
Interruptions. The movie, "An Awfully Big Adventure" was over-flowing with interruptions. From the war interrupting Stella and O'Hara's life, to Captain Hook interrupting the sewing machine. Just watch the movie, and you'll see what I mean. I never noticed this in other films, I don't know if it's significant.
AABA of interruptions
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 12:24:42 PM

*SPOILERS* AABA: I think Stella was only 15! The morning after she said to O'Hara, that last night was not what she expected and that it was very intimate. When they got together the next time, while they were in the most intimate moment, she told O'Hara she was in love with somebody else. He asked her if she does "this" with him, and she asked "What does this have to do with love?"!!
I thought the actress who played Stella was perfect for the role. People were miffed because she fooled them into thinking she was what she was not? Good heavens! that reaction makes me wonder just who is the "inexperienced" one....after all that's show biz!

Why must people in show biz wait and wait for young talent to prove itself year after year until the young talent has just a few good years left? AR became famous after the movie "Die Hard" and he was in his forties already. Now, he's even more famous for HP's Professor Snape and he's 57. I bet alot of people are wondering why they kept him a secret for so many years.
Joan
Pa, USA - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 12:10:40 PM


The source for comments about Rickman's reaction to Clare Woodgate's deception (as younger, 'unknown' actress Georgina Cates) in "An Awfully Big Adventure" was the New Line Cinema webpage for this film. It was up for the longest time, but no longer appears to be on line.

There is also an article up at Claire's page.

Unlike some of you, I adored Stella. She seemed much older than her years--and, yes, even so, PL should have known better.

It's his laugh that gets me every time.

Georgiana
Seattle - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 10:02:26 AM


**OOtP SPOILER**
Janine - The mirror drove me crazy. It would have saved the day - he didn't open it because he didn't want to cause trouble.....?!
Thanks for the "good Holiday" wishes! We had a great 4th, went to a minor league baseball double header with fireworks after - the kids loved it. Best 4th in years!
Chandra
NC, - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 09:50:11 AM

Regarding AABA & the sex scenes (Stella was a minor by the way, which makes having sex with her illegal) I read in an interview with the Director that AR was a bit miffed after the young woman portraying Stella admitted she was an experienced actress of several years, instead of the teenage girl with no acting experience that she had presented herself. It explains that everyone, including AR, as you might expect, was very careful & considerate of this young lady during the "love"(?) scenes, believing her to be this young girl with no acting experience. I think this was in one of Claire's interviews, if you want to look. It was kind of interesting to read, I don't think I read too many critical or negative comments attributable to AR. A good movie, but I wasn't overly impressed with the actress portraying Stella.

After watching HP1 and HP2, I can't help but feel that AR was much better in the first movie, & hope he will be better utilized in the third.

These are the things I'm going to think about when I am committed to St.Mungo's: (Which is a real place, BTW) After watching Spiderman the other day: If they, meaning Hollywood, can take Tobey McGuire, certainly not a well known actor, & sign him to star in in this huge movie, in the lead role, what was the problem with signing AR for the film version of LLD? I loved reading one of the reviews of this movie that says, regarding John Malkovich, (sp?) that the only thing wrong with him is that he isn't Alan Rickman. That while JM is a good actor, AR is a GREAT one. (quotes are approximate) HA! But we knew that already.
Gabrielle D
Concord, NH, - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 08:10:09 AM


SPOILER I have not watched AABA as it not available in OZ. I think the incest issue is different from abuse as the characters in AABA are consenting and adults. While this would not make incest better; it seems to be portrayed as plausible. I wonder, as I gleam information from your comments, that the issue may be of the responsibility one would have for their own sexual behaviour. I do not know A.R. and would not presume to know his personal life. Yet the character's fate seems to be of a classical tale of hubris. May I dare to think that A.R.(via the writer, author, director, ect). Draws us a narcissist person, who, while in love with his own image (Mini me is good lol). Drowns in the reality of his own lack of responsibility.

HP SPOILER What are people's opinion of the mirror..I was shaking my head thinking why didn't he remind Harry when they spoke (it is only a book I mutter to myself..thinking if I ever end up in a strait jacket this is probably what I shall be doing)(the muttering not the wondering) I hoped it will help Harry oneday find u know who.(chapter 7 no doubt as JKR likes to draw these things out). Mr Janine swears he read somewhere JKR has written the next book already having gotten over her writers block. I think he is teasing me.
Janine , <janinels@optusnet.com.aufooythingo`foo>
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 05:57:35 AM


ACC - ' a minature version of himself' now you've got AR in my head running around being chased by Mini-me from Austin Powers, but it's Mini-Snape instead . . .
Jizel
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 04:00:41 AM

I like this discussion very much. I also like to go on. I always need some time because I haven't that "native speaker feeling" for the English Language. Sometimes it is hard to find the right expressions and I'm not always really sure I did it right. Für alle deutschen Fans: Ich habe gerade wieder gesehen, daß bei ebay EU 30 für Rasputin geboten werden. Geht zu jpc.de. Dort gibt es Rasputin (1996) mit AR für EU 12.99 plus Versandkosten, VHS, engl. Originalversion, NTSC, und sie ist am Lager!!
Amelie
Germany - Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 03:46:41 AM

I thought the sex scenes were well done. One could almost hear those wheels turn in Stella's head-"so THAT'S how it's done." Being a teenager, she is an expert very quickly, telling him how to do it! His expression is priceless. I did notice that he appeared to be looking in the direction of her naked torso, but was really looking off into the distance, which I thought was probably a courtesy to a young lady that he thought was less experienced than she undoubtedly was! To a man who is jaded about the whole sex and conquest thing, someone who finds everything a novelty and who is innocent enough to show it would be endearing. I think that O'Hara only knew how to relate to women in a sexual fashion, which is why the combination of sexuality and fatherliness. The kid was bald and not wearing a bonnet, and looked like it could have been a boy baby, and it would be easier for a man like O'Hara to fantasize about a miniature copy of himself.
ACC
- Saturday, July 5th 2003 - 02:19:04 AM

White Raven: Thanks for the new chapter of TWTBD. Just got back from GA and I'm homesick for the south. Please email me. More to say, pictures to send but didn't know how else to reach you.
Carolyn, dear Carolyn , <rbrlubber@qwest.netnetnetfoo>
CO, uSA - Friday, July 4th 2003 - 09:14:50 PM

*SPOILERS AABA*. O'Hara, as played by Alan Rickman, is so soft-spoken and kindly with Stella the first time she's at his flat that it seems as though what they are doing is fine. But, of course, they are using each other. Him, to recall his lover Stella and she to learn how to please the director she plans to bed.

I never saw AR in a movie sex scene. Does anyone think that the unintentially funny comments Stella makes were put in because it is such an uncomfortable scene? I'd love to hear either one of them reveal what it's like to do a scene like this.

We saw AR in bed? Not exactly the circumstances we'd like. It must have taken some courage on his part. I hope he was never the victim of this kind of abuse.
A big AR fan
- Friday, July 4th 2003 - 07:46:42 PM


I have to say, I have not seen 'Adventure'. I have often wondered what it is like to be on the acting end of theatre. What I do is not in the professional realm and the cast has so much that they do it is amazing. Since I am a techie, I really don't see their world from the inside. This is one of the reasons that I admire actors so much.
Anna , <druidicbabe@yahoo.co.ukfoo>
Michigan State University, USA - Friday, July 4th 2003 - 05:30:45 PM

From interviews of Rickman, one gets the impression that he chooses stories that he thinks need to be told, and he wants to be part of the storytelling process.
He said that if someone wants to know him look at his work. His movies seem to be important to him personally because of the stories they tell.
I think I got a taste of what it's like to be in theater because of "An Awfully Big Adventure".
I agree with Ali-Pat, please don't stop the discussion of AABA!
His movies seem to be like a gift he wants to share with the audiance, thanks so much, Alan!
Sherry
usa - Friday, July 4th 2003 - 05:21:42 PM

Hello! It took me long enough to get motivated enough to actually read all the posts on here so I could post on her without saying something too stupid. I enjoyed reading your comments and finding out that there is a place to talk about AR without every other comment being on how fine he is and how much some thirteen year old wants to marry him. I have never seen some of the films you discuss, but I am going to have to! SPOILERS Back on the Snape / Occ. sequence and how things will change after that: I rather thought that Snape ignoring it was in character, I mean, the character is like a locked door and wouldn't really discuss things that were humiliating in his past. I think that Harry being able to push into Snape's mind was one of those 'I-have-some-Vold.-skills' things. Anyhoo- does anyone remember what the memories were that Harry unleashed in that sequence? For the life of me I cannot and since I am a fanfic writer, they are of slight importance. Glad to have found you! ~A.
Anna , <druidicbabe@yahoo.co.ukfoo>
Michigan State University, USA - Friday, July 4th 2003 - 04:55:50 PM

AABA *SPOILERS*
Take away the inappropriate sex and O'Hara was concerned about Stella the girl.
He offered her a ride home from the party, offered her tea, was genuninely shocked when she invited him to give her sexual experience, at the party he saw Jeremy yell at her so O'Hara asked Stella to dance and he took her away, told her she should have a proper coat, offered her tea to warm her up, when she described the fur-collar coat someone gave her he complimented it as "glamourous", apologized for his question about her pearls, gave her his Navy coat which she wore to the football game, when she suggested a certain sexual activity, he covered her up with a blanket and asked her if she "loved him just a little", warned her about the director's habit of "collecting hearts", and at one point told her not to talk rot and quickly took her hat off her head (fatherly admonishment?), he visited her Aunt and Uncle to see how Uncle Vernon was doing because of his injured leg.
Sue England, he was not entirely selfish. If only he had said no to her sexual request.
Carey
- Friday, July 4th 2003 - 04:46:56 PM

I am enjoying all the AABA discussion, so please don't stop! It is by far my favorite AR movie and performance.

Sue, I have no trouble believing that Uncle Vernon just hasn't a clue. He is a sweet-natured, naive man who only thinks the best of people. I mean, look how long it takes him to figure out that Stella is "burgeoning" and perhaps needs watching.
Ali-Pat
Dayton, OH, where both John Glenn and Neil Armstrong appeared last night!, USA - Friday, July 4th 2003 - 10:56:16 AM


Zadie Smith, in the Tuesday, July 1, 2003, edition of the Guardian Unlimited, wrote about her admiration of the late Katherine Hepburn.

Her thoughts about Hepburn struck me -- for they are so similar to my thoughts about Rickman:

She is the last of the great stars, the very last, and my God, I will miss the thrilling feeling of re-watching [her films] and knowing her to be still on the planet, still fabulous. When people truly feel for a popular artist - when they follow in their thousands behind Dickens' coffin or Valentino's - it is only the dues returned for pleasure given, and it never feels like enough (emphasis mine).

Thank you, Ms. Smith. My thoughts exactly.
Barbara the Wallpaperer , <Although one could argue that Lauren Bacall is still alive, so the Golden age is not yet over.... foo>
Anytown, OO, USA - Friday, July 4th 2003 - 08:02:31 AM


*SPOILERS*AABA: Someone once told me that the lower notes of music affect the pelvic area. Uncle Vernon also said this about the lower notes of 'a man's voice', although he did not say exactly how.
I also do not understand why O'Hara thought Stella had a boy. Did she lie to him, telling him he had a son? Is he the father or is the incest due to his having sex with a lover's (Stella's) daughter? Uncle Vernon threw Stella out and she left the baby with Uncle Vernon. O'Hara could not find Stella or the baby, he did not know her uncle. Did Stella (mother) drown herself, did little Stella, too? In the end they are all underwater.
"AR runs like a girl". I know AR has a bad knee. Maybe a stunt man did AR'S running scenes, and thought he was supposed to run that way. In one close-up shot, AR diffinately has his arms bent at the sides of his body just like any other male athlete, however.
I enjoyed studying O'Hara's flat with the pause button, got to know more about his character. At first I thought it was almost bare, but he does have enought. Did anyone else notice the picture on his nightstand? I thought it was a picture of Stella the mother when she was 15 years younger!!!
Carey
- Friday, July 4th 2003 - 07:20:19 AM

AABA SPOILERS
I have been interested in the AABA discussion. Wonder if anybody else was interested in the homosexual theme running through it. Stella is a naive young girl and obviously is clueless as to Meredith's sexual proclivities. Bunny is obviously devoted to Meredith but is treated like dirt by Meredith and Meredith has obviously been a serial ruiner of young men a la *Jefferwee* I am always surprised by Uncle Vernon's attitude to Meredith. He also appears very naive. I would have thought a working-class man of that time would be highly suspicious of *theatricals* and yet he is keen to mix with Meredith and go to the football etc etc. I was wondering if Uncle Vernon may be a closet homosexual, so closet in fact that he himself is unaware of it. He shows great sensitivity in such things as music etc. And BEFORE you all accuse me of suggesting that sensitive men must be homosexual!!I am not!! I am only referring to this character!! I think the whole story is about damaged people. O'Hara has obviously had relationships with many of the women in the company in the past and seems a selfish individual. His only one regret is knowing that he has a child (The "boy")and he does not know where "he" is. Had he been around the child would he have behaved any differently to how he treats everybody else now? Who knows? he has a dream and the dream is shattered.
Sue
England - Friday, July 4th 2003 - 05:45:49 AM

Hem, hem. When I read HP5 I heard every line that Snape delivered in AR'S voice. Enjoyable. Did this happen to anyone else? I also understand Snape better now. I hope they will film Hp 5 with AR as Snape. He would get tp play such powerful scenes.
Callette
El Dorado, Tropiclandia - Friday, July 4th 2003 - 02:29:27 AM

ODE TO AABA

In An Adventure that's Awfully Big,
Hugh Grant is a bit of a prig,
He does a big hurl,
AR runs like a girl,
But it's still a movie I dig!
cheesylimericksRus
- Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 11:01:09 PM


Alan Rickman is one of the best actors I've ever seen.He was good in Harry Potter, Dogma, Robin Hood:Prince of thives. All in all he is the greatest actor ever!!!!!
Elizabeth , <sgt_kewl58@hotmail.comfoo>
Kingston, Ontario, Canada - Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 06:40:45 PM

Hi Karin. r.e. TMD- all moviegoers approach films with a bit of prejudice about their own areas of expertise. The Polish/Russian mix angers you because you know better. To me, good art not only transcends these concerns, but touches universal emotions, while, at the same time, reflecting the artist's personal concerns. Great art juggles these seemingly contrary aspects simultaneously and deftly. It "gets it right" to you, the one viewer, and to most all viewers. Even with scenes reminding you of "Actors' Advanced Studies 101," TMD is my own favorite Rickman film, in a whole canon of superior films, because, even throughout the clunky side characters, the performances of Rickman and Stevenson get their emotional thrusts "right" to me: Nina's shows the true agony of real loss, and Jamie's niceness to her just, well, rings true to me. Getting it right in art is hard. In non-fiction, the only author I can think of who consistantly gets it right no matter what subject he tackles is Tom Wolfe (the American one.)
FastFilm
Los Angeles, - Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 06:31:37 PM

*SPOILERS*AABA:
Amelie Germany: thank you for your generous answer.
I watched the movie again today and found I missed something the first time.
O'Hara believed his having a son was so important that life lost all meaning when he learned he did not have a son afterall.
Poor O'Hara, having a son is not the only road to happiness. There are many, many roads to happiness.
(little) Stella says during the play "Peter Pan", "You have to believe." Beliefs are the key. What good is belief, if it causes hopelessness.
This movie felt even more heart-breaking due to the sad music accompanying the sad scenes, exceptionally so.
It feels better to rewatch the scenes where O'Hara is still alive, though. I avoid watching our dear Alan Rickman die in any movie!
Carey
- Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 04:10:44 PM

Thanks Sue - can't think how I missed that site! I now have a very nice S&S wallpaper which I can gaze upon in moments of contemplation!
skeptic
NZ - Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 03:58:14 PM

Dear Carolyn. He does not understand email you can find him on the floo network. You will need a parents consent. Mind you, he is mean to children and does not like muggles. You should ring Harry on the fellytone.
Mr. Weasley
- Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 03:49:17 PM

I have just seen TMD. Great film, great performance, I think Stevenson is even better than Rickman. However, some scenes have a bit much of actors school, have they not? Has Titus being introduced as Polish and speaking Russian been discussed before on this forum? I am really upset about that, it was the same in Die hard, that ... lack of authenticity and care (the German spoken parts in DH being desastrous, why couldn´t they hire a German or Austrian native for that) If one has a clue of Polish culture (just think of Solidarnosc, let alone Hitler´s and Stalin´s Pact), how dare they let a Polish emigrant speak Russian!!! And then that foolish dance against the rats, that is total rubbish. Nevertheless, great pleasure to see Stevenson and Rickman in perfect collaboration. What do you think?
Karin
- Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 03:36:20 PM

I am 12 years old and I am a huge fan of Snapes. My favorite house is Slytherin.I have dark hair and am tall like Snape. I love you Snape. Will you please e-mail me back? Love you, Caroline
Caroline Parker , <mvcb219@wmconnect.comfoo>
LaGrange, GA, U.S. - Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 01:02:10 PM

Thanks to all for your feedback. Carey I think you are right. Hope is what led O'Hara through his life, that distinguishes him from Meredith Potter.(He is O'Haras counterpart, a cynic without love and hope, who made others suffer in revenge for his own pain. "I,I,I,I have the pain, not you") O'Hara feels, that his life has a destiny, which saves him during the war when death was near and he realises that this is so, because he has to make up for his guilt, leaving his pregnant love behind.And he is deely involved in life because he feels so much love for his son. But his lines from his part as Hook came true, that in the moment of his greatest triumph,(the moment his destiniy is fulfilled), he will face death. And he says it again in front of Stella Maris' pictures, that the truth is his death. He searched for his love or his child to meet his guilt (I mean: Schuld begleichen)as well as to find love again and has to realise that in doing so he incurred more guilt. He lost his hope in the moment of truth, and therefore he must die, because hope is the essential of a human beeing. Hope means to believe in something, to have a desire, to move. (That is the role of the motorbike, it "dies" when he dies, it is the symbol of his quest)At the harbour after he stops screaming he turns very calm, his face relaxes, because the struggle has come to an end. I dont't think that he wants to die. He doesn't jump into the water to drown himself. He knows he will die, as he knew he would not during the war. That is the logical structure of O'Haras role in my opinion, that is not real life, and it is not my opinion about life. O'Hara is a tragical hero in a classical sense.Yes, he has everything you mentioned, Carey. But that does not count for him, he has destroyed his dream. Tragedy is the content of many films and plays: a hero is involved in circumstances which he cannot see through ( Think of the pearls! Stella wears them because she has an idea!)and that will kill him in the end. That he does not deserve to die is the point, this makes the story a tragedy. There is much of old myth and it is really very sad. But I can't help, I like this film. I like Alan Rickman in this film. And I too like many of the other characters.
Amelie
Germany - Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 11:36:41 AM

Hi everyone! According to a Swedish DVD seller "An awfully big adventure" will be out on DVD but has not yet been released. So just hang in there!
Sarah
Sweden - Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 09:03:47 AM

Kit, what do you mean Alan attending His Girl Friday at the National Theatre? This would be really an coincidince, would it! Well, let's see who I meet in London! Drop me a line then (alan-ric@alan_rickman.nl)
Stezi , <alan-ric@alan-rickman.nlfoo>
Holland - Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 06:35:56 AM

Still busy reading HP&OotP, enjoying it, but,like you Pam H, I am very much reminded of my ex boss everytime I read about Umbridge - looks, mannerisms, voice. Unfortunately she got away with it. On the brighter side, the August issue of Total Film magazine has a feature on the making of RHPoT, with rather a juicy pic of George as the special edition DVD is released in the UK in September. I'm pleased to see Standing Room Only may be on tv soon, have to keep eyes peeled.
A Fish Needing Help
UK - Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 05:31:58 AM

Skeptic NZ - Try Truly Madly Wallpapers for all your decorating needs.
Sue
England - Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 01:17:24 AM

ODE TO O'HARA

O'Hara was a man of emotion,
Of a daughter he had not a notion,
He slept with a tramp,
Then slipped off a ramp,
And had to be fished from the ocean!
cheesylimmericksRus
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 11:14:26 PM


SPOILER-Snape knows that Harry has some of the powers of Voldemort, but doesn't know the extent of the similarity, so he is playing it safe by putting his most painful memories into the pensieve, and also some "top secret" ones involving the OOTP also. I think that he has to maintain some 'openness' of mind to Harry to teach the occlumency. He would not have to do that with Voldemort, and perhaps could use methods on Voldemort that would harm Harry's "not quite adult" mind. I think that if Dumbledore had sat Harry down and explained everything to him in the beginning, then Dumbledore could have taught him occlumency and Harry would have known not to encourage the thoughts of "what is behind the door" [shades of let's make a deal?] but also, there wouldn't have been much of a plot left either...
ACC
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 10:39:32 PM

Little story of hope to keep in mind:

During a forest fire, pine cones explode and their seeds are scattered. Thus, the forest is re-born.
Sylvia
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 10:03:14 PM


*SPOILERS* AABA:
Amelie, Germany: Do not choose hopelessness. When Pandora opened the box she was told never to open all the evils came into the world. Yet, she went back to have another look!

That is when she found *hope*!

Resignation is like a depression carrier. I like to think P.L. O'Hara changed his mind about killing himself because when he slipped on the ramp the first time he caught himself by grabbing for the rail. The second time he did fall and hit his head hard on a metal part of the ramp and I'm sure he was killed instantly.

He had a daughter. He had a job. He had friends. He met Stella's Uncle and Aunt. He was handsome. He was capable of love. He liked riding his motorbike. He was talented as an actor. He survived the war. His baby was cared for. He had alot of life left to live. He had remorse for what he and his daughter did. God or Nature, if you will, gave us a brain in order the solve even the most difficult problems. It is not helpful for anyone to declare anyone's life "ruined". If you make a mistake, you take all the necessary steps to improve things. Life is about caring for what we have including those we love.

How sad to see someone with good potential die. It may make great drama, but in real life it is tragic So please, choose hope!
Carey
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 09:40:27 PM


Hi there ... I've been lurking for a few weeks now - this is a major form of procrastination for me ... I'm a student, and I'm supposed to be writing my dissertation! Anyway, since I am sitting in front of my computer pretty much continuously at the moment, I wondered if anyone could point me in the direction of some really classy AR wallpaper, that will give me luscious full size images of Alan for my desktop. I tried downloading some nice wallpapers from Sally's page, but I'm a bit of a computer novice, and I could only get them in a small size. It just wasn't enough!! Thanks for your help ...
skeptic
New Zealand - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 09:39:53 PM

Hi everyone, I too wondered about rhe Marriage and Children issue in the Hp world. I wrote a short story about our Professor etc on this theme but don't want to submit to the FOF yet, as Lee is presenting her story and I don't want it to conflict... I wonder what else Snape has for Memories that we didnt see in the Pensieve?? It should be interesting to see where the story from JkR goes from here. Off to watch the new RHPOT again...Isnt that movie excellent with all the new scenes presented in it? What an excellent actor our AR is...I tried to watch the AABA but found it sad and depressing though he as usual was excellent...Maybe I will give it another try when my son goes back to school in the fall know that I have seen it once and know what to expect. I found it in our Library where we can keep tapes and DVD's for a month. Have a nice one and Happy 4th of July- Pam H. from Massachusetts P.S. I emailed my friend in Scotland and asked her to Please get AR's autograph for me if he ever appears up there again. I know she will as she approached Leonard Nimoy years ago over here at the stage door and got his. (we were a lot younger then!!)
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp.comfoo>
Massachusetts, usa - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 08:05:32 PM

Completely off topic, I went to the Peter Pan web site, I saw the trailer and I was impressed. I think it's gonna be a very good movie. Jason Isaacs (Lucius Malfoy) plays Captain Hook in it. The web address is: http://www.peterpanmovie.net
Carole , <me again, I forgot to tellfoo>
Quebec, Canada - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 06:31:54 PM

I read on the Leaky Cauldron that the first trailer for Prisoner of Azkaban will be released around November 5th. I hope there will be a lot of A.R. in it.
Carole
Quebec, Canada - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 06:09:40 PM

Hi MME - Snape put the memories inthe pensive so he could not let his emotions about James cloud his ability to treat Harry..Or Snape is realy evil and he set up Malfroy to interupt notice Harry was late therefore if he was on time the OCC lesson would have been revealed and no doubt a new Order set in place. Hmm I do not think Snape came out looking to good in HP 5 yet I think he is blamed by Harry (as JKR states in the book) for it is easier to blame Snape.
Janine
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 05:28:57 PM

SPOILERS HP5 That’s what I’m on about, If Snape cannot close off thoughts to HP, how can he lie to the dark lord (I hate that Snape calls him that and use capitals!) and get away with it? Snape should not have *had* to use the pensive with HP and would never have left it there if Occ. Lesson was postponed.
MME
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 04:56:06 PM

Melanie: "cowran, tim'rous beastie,
O, what panic's in thy breastie!
Yep, life has not dealt kindly with O'Hara and it's pretty sad, but real life with that kind of baggage is messy; and I think that any film that proposed to show how he could heal and move on with his life would be very long and very complicated and deeper than a lot of film-goers would want to wade.

The Georgia meet-up with Jayne Claire didn't happen because I set everything up, she was willing to rearrange her plans to accomodate my family, I put together detailed directions regarding reservations and parking validation, thought I'd sent the email, and came home to find that the damned thing was still in my virtual "outbox." Arrrrrgh! Talk about your "best laid schemes..."

Now that I have the new and improved RHPOT, my older dvd of the same is up for grabs. Just email me and I will mail it to you, gratis.
Carolyn, dear Carolyn , <rbrlubber@qwest.netnetnetfoo>
CO, uSA - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 04:56:01 PM


I should say May everyone ..even those that like KC stay safe
Janine
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 04:53:28 PM

May all the GBers stay safe.
Janine
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 04:46:40 PM

Janine! hi! OT!! It's 7:30pm where I am in North Carolina - on Wednesday evening - we're having a Hurricane! Hurricane Bill is pouring on us, and we're closing in on the 4th of July Holiday on Friday. Greetings from North Carolina!
Chandra
NC, - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 04:37:06 PM

Hi all , one thing that occurred to me while reading these points of marrage. Are there couples in the HP world that are married without children? Is JKR placing the convention of marriage like the ancient Spartans..only married once conceived? It is early morning so my brain may be even slower than usual, so I am open to correction.
Janine
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 04:30:53 PM

What I meant by Harry breaks in - is he is able to see into Snape's thoughts - as a "superb occlument" how is that happening?
Chandra
NC, - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 04:29:48 PM

**SPOILER - OOtP** They're going to have to find somebody really sparky to play Tonks - I like her too! I've been thinking about Occlumency - I re-read the first Occlumency lesson this afternoon. I'm not sure about Professor Snape. He's going way too fast. He's not explaining, he's forcing, and when Harry comes up with his revelation(!) "I Know, I Know!" Snape, although obviously taken aback by what the child says, doesn't react in a way that is caring, either for the task at at hand, or for the child itself. It's frankly odd how quickly he dismisses Harry. He also is a "superb Occlument" as quoted by Lupin - Occlumency is the ability to close off parts of one's mind to external penetration and Snape is a spy for The Order over the "Dark Lord" There are alot of loose ends here. (Harry breaks in at one point.)
Chandra
NC, - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 04:27:38 PM

SPOILER not POILER. Sorry. It was in response to kit's message mentioning Ella's message about Tonks. I'll shut up now.
Deb
Canada - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 01:34:13 PM

Sorry, I forgot HP PHOENIX POILER SPOILER SPOILER. for my message sent just below
Deb
Canada - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 01:31:20 PM

Tonks'mother was Sirius' cousin and married Muggle-born Ted Tonks. Nothing about pink-haired Tonks being married, that I noticed.
Deb
Canada - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 01:29:06 PM

Only Slightly OT -- ORDER OF THE PHOENIX SPOILER, of a sort... I love Tonks. We don't see a lot of her, but I thought she was brilliantly written. I'm guessing we'll see more of her in the future, because of that fact. And it's a shame that Zoe Wannamaker was Madam Hooch for the first film, because I could see her taking that role and making it motor! (not that I worship her since I saw her on stage in NYC or anything, LOL) Okay, bringing on topic...she and Alan didn't have scenes together in the first to HP films, I'd sure like to see her return and work with him! :-)
witch lisa
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 01:09:25 PM

Stezi, a play you might see AR attending in London is His Girl Friday at the National. Zoe Wanamaker (Madame Hooch and friend of AR)is starring in it. Very funny. Have fun! I love London (when I have money and time).
kit
pa, usa - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 12:37:53 PM

To AABA lovers and haters, I am both. I love AR, Hugh Grant, Rose, Uncle Vernon, and most of the adult players in this film, but don't care for Stella (the actress and the character. I read the book, and don't much like it, either. There are many unanswered questions in the movie and the book, but the movie is easier to understand. (He's so suave in this part.) IFC has shown it several times and I recorded it on my good VCR so have a nice commercial-free copy. WE network showed it once a few months ago,(WHY I don't know; it certainly does not depict women in any positive way) but I understand it was heavily edited, and had commersials, too. If you get IFC (Independent Film Channel) email them about AR films; they've also shown the Winter Guest and many Emma Thompson films, and short films (Standing Room Only, Please!) Ella, Tonks is married already. Remember she is a relative of Sirius and he mentions that she married someone the family didn't approve of, unlike her sisters. Anyway, NO ONE is allowed to have Snape!
kit
pa, usa - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 12:35:10 PM

STEZI, I be in London next week one night and stay at the Leinster Inn in Baywater. If you feel like meeting me, drop me a line.
Karin , <jackwhite111@yahoo.comfoo>
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 09:53:08 AM

AABA DVD - Thanks Georgiana, I get back to you when I am back from UK in August.
Karin , <jackwhite111@yahoo.comfoo>
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 09:36:56 AM

Amelie--well done. I was a great hater of AABA, until you offered up that well-thought-out critique. I have not watched it for some time, but I'm curious as to how Hugh Grant's character fits into the whole thing (under your schema). Have you any comments on that?
Not an AABA Fan
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 08:03:13 AM

Karen, there is a Hong Kong entrepreneur who has put AABA on DVD/VCD which he sells on ebay periodically. It's not great quality (rather faded color--I'm sure he ran it off the video) but watchable. Keep an eye out.

Georgiana (Or, if you can't find it, let me know and I'll send you my copy [if I can find it--I didn't contribute to the discussion of 'where do you keep your AR collectibles'--'messily all over the house' didn't seem like it would add much.]
Seattle, - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 07:18:42 AM

Forgive me if the oh-so-obvious storylines manage to escape me. Guess the blonde jokes affected my ability to think clearly. (smile)
Sandy
Canada - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 07:16:43 AM

CdC, didn't you visit a fellow GB'er? Hope you enjoyed your visit with her.
Sandy
Canada - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 07:12:13 AM

Well done, Amelie. Please contribute more.
Lily
Chicago, IL, - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 06:43:45 AM

I liked "Help, I am a fish" very much. The voice of Joe (Alan's) is just amazing. You can almost see him speak. I think he enjoyed it very much, because he regrettedbly turned down the part of Scar in "The Lion King". Harry Potter: I haven't finished the book yet. But I hope to finish it before I will go to London (again) next Monday for 10 days. I hope I will spot Alan somewhere!!! (Dream on!) I will go and see the play "Brand" starring Ralph Fiennes. I am looking forward to it. See you all when I get back!
Stezi , <alan-ric@alan-rickman.nlfoo>
Holland - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 05:43:00 AM

AABA SPOILER

Amelie--that was absolutely beautiful. I have never heard the dawning of O'Hara's understanding described more beautifully than "his life ran like sand through his fingers". I could see the whole extraordinary scene in those words.

SPOILER ENDED

A DVD release of AABA is high on my list of desirables. Just like a DVD of Barchester Chronicles or a theatrical release of (here she goes again) TSFJG.
Ali-Pat
preparing for the 100th anniversary of flight in Dayton, OH, USA - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 05:16:27 AM


Thanks Amelie, very profound thought.
Sue
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 05:03:40 AM

Inzest is not only "not right" it is an archaic human trauma and so this storyline touches the contents and the structure of classic greek tragedy, e.g. King Oedipus. The Question is : Are we responsible for things we do without knowing the circumstances? Are we guilty? The greek tragedy answers this question with a "yes" and leads their heroes in perdition.(Untergang, I mean) The first words O'Hara said in this film are "I know her" meaning Stella, and he knows nothing. But his life and fate is determined from that moment on. He started a love affair with her, as he did with her mother. He became guilty without knowing. O'Hara cannot, in no way and not depending on his will, live with this guilt in e deep human sense. He has no choice. The moment of the realization of the truth is the moment of his death. His search has ended, but what he always wished to be a beginning turns out to be the end of everything, in the span of seconds, (and Rickman played that fantastically), his life ran like sand through his fingers. At the harbour he screamed at the horizon the love, the desire, the pain of his life , all symbolized in Stella Maris. I think he feels desperation and bewilderment. His soul tumbles and so the accident only fulfils his death physically, the motorcycle stopped as well, the search is over, his life is over. He has to die. The film would make no sense otherwise. That is the tragedy of "fate": You become guilty by only living your life, unaware where the gods will lead you to. And unaware, that you make the same mistakes again. And there is no safe side. And now I'm nearly about to cry, too. Das Leben ist ungerecht The best laid schemes o' mice an' men gang aft agley an'lea'e us nought but grief an' pain for promis'd joy From "To A Mouse" by Robert Burns, whom I lover very much.
Amelie
Germany - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 04:48:41 AM

Karin - Pretty sure that AABA has never been issued on dvd. You can't even get the video in Britain, I had to order mine from the States.
Sue
England - Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 01:00:43 AM

An awfully big adventure: I am searching for AABA on DVD, but at Amazon and Ebay, they seem to have it only on VHS. Does one of you know if AABA is available on DVD? Does one of you maybe even own a copy? I have given my TV away 10 years ago, nor do I own a video machine, and I can watch films only on my computer. That is the reason why I am searching for a DVD and the VHS would useless.
Karin
- Wednesday, July 2nd 2003 - 12:47:54 AM

*SPOILERS An Awfully Big Adventure*: AR's charactor dies. It was an accident, but so hard to watch and to accept.
My heart's broken, I haven't cried like this in years! Incest is wrong, but he didn't deserve to die. I wish there were more hopeful stories where people show us ***how*** to live "happily ever after" in spite of difficulties.
I love Alan, I want so much to see him in a story where he's actually happy, especially at the end.

Also, maybe he's so private because his family has asked him to be, I would think he would honor that request. Sorry for being the saddest person on earth right now. Please writers, keep Alan's characters living!
Melanie
down in the dumps - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 11:22:26 PM


Hi, I finally received my copy of the new RHPOT today!! It was excellent and I can't believe the producers/directors would cut out those very important and crucial scenes. They explained so much..SPOILER-The part where the eye holes were and Mortiana would watch and listen to him...I also noticed on the credits that Kevin Costner was one of the Producers? I guess that is why those scenes were cut out. I like the movie and even Kevin Costner with his apparent lack of the English Accent pulls it off with a kind of Han Solo charm (but not as good of course as Harrison Ford) in some of the scenes. It's to bad they wouldnt't re-release this version to the movies now that AR is now popular, I bet everyone would love to go and see it. (I would be first in line around here!) There is also a special movie book that was published RHPOT with the stars and their biographies and pictures which I managed to find a while ago. The photo of the Sheriff is fantastic-- As for the Umbridge womans's "demise" SPOILER- I thought Hermione was so clever to lead her to the forbidden forest and was hoping Grawp (not saying who he is in case someone hasnt read it yet) would someone use his ways with her and teach her a lesson. She was one evil woman-she sort of reminded me of a boss I once had in the office where I used to work that wasnt qualified for the position but got it. Eventually, they saw through her ways and she got fired (or sacked) and had to leave immediately. After she left, the whole office broke in a chorus "ding Dong the witch is dead" from the Wizard of Oz" It was an awful thing to do, but she was just like that Umbridge Woman, even the description- Anyway, enjoy the book to all that havent finished it yet. I just finished reading a book called The Women's Factory Strike of 1909-We shall not be moved by Joan Dash. It was a very well written account of the womens movement etc. and the horrible working conditions in the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory in New York City. When I saw this book, I remembered it was on a PBS about 6 months ago..Read it if you get a chance. Oh well, enough yakking for now-I better get to bed-its getting quite late.. Good night or Good Morning.. Pam H.
Pam H. , <sholman@tmlp..comfoo>
Massachusetts, USA - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 09:37:53 PM

Teenagers alternate between adult behavior and childish behavior and (we hope), they become less childish and more adult as they grow older.
They may have an adult-like body, but emotional maturity takes longer.
Easy-to-raise, quick-to-mature children? Not even in super-imaginitive JR Rowling's mind!
Rita
US - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 08:38:21 PM

Here's another little snippet, this time from our Aussie TV Week Magazine (they give reviews on movies shown at the cinema):

""Help! I'm a Fish" .... Is it any good? Despite the American dubbing, this animated underwater adventure is from Denmark. Kids will love its quirky characters - most memorably the wicked pilot fish, voiced by Alan Rickman."
Gaye
Adelaide, South Australia - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 07:15:27 PM


SPOILER HP5 What a great insight. I remember that J.K. Rowling said in an interview that HP5 is laced with hints of things to come. When that Umbridge woman asked Snape the question about his applying for the DADA job-- that was probably one of the hints. I would like to see AR take Snape over the top with a core of sheer wickedness, (brought out by the job and the wizard wars) while just barely staying on the right side of things.
MME
- Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 06:29:21 PM

SPOILER! I think you are spot on Ella. I think we are brought to remember that Harry is a kid and in hating Snape he can transfer any self guilt he may have for Sirus's death.
Janine
- Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 05:08:09 PM

SPOILER - SORT OF

According to a live webcast by JK Rowling at the Albert Hall in London where she took questions from the audience and by video from around the world:

When Dumbledore first hired Snape as a teacher and he asked to be DADA professor, Dumbledore was worried that the position would bring out the worst side of Snape (!!!!) and so he said "Well, let's start you out in Potions and see how you do." Rowling indicated that even this little bit of info might be a spoiler for future books.
Magda
Canada - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 03:30:13 PM


SPOILER HP5 Ella, I do like your take on the thing. Last question, and I promise I will stop. Why doesn’t Headmaster appoint Snape as DADA teacher? Any guesses?
MME
- Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 03:05:09 PM

Magda, superbly Snape-ish sonnet! (Or was that MA? Sorry if I've credited the wrong person.) And pink hair...riiiiight. Snape and Tonks marry in Book 6, by the way.

**Book 5 SPOILERS**...
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Ok, my take on the questions.
"Question: I still don’t understand why HP *still* hates Snape."
I don't think he hates him, quite the contrary. Harry's behavior towards the PM, at the end of OotP, is unmistakably deferential. Does Harry owe him an apology? Nah. Snape gave him a rough time from the word "Go"; just because Snape suffered a bit at the hands of Harry's father, and had a difficult upbringing, doesn't excuse Snape's vindictiveness over the past four years. The best that can happen between them is a tacit mutual respect.

"Also…why was HP so mad at Dumbledore, and treating him with such disrespect after he came and saved the day?"
My answer to this question is "He wasn't!" Harry just witnessed his godfather's death, he's been under a lot of strain, he doesn't understand why Dumbledore's been ignoring him...he's in a tremendous amount of pain and Dumbledore, ever sagacious and possessing a Godlike emotional maturity, *knows* this. He sees exactly what Harry's tirade is stemming from and *empathizes* with him. I love Dumbledore so much more now after having read this passage. You gotta love this part: "You do care," said Dumbledore. He had not flinched or made a single move to stop Harry demolishing his office. His expression was calm, almost detached. "You care so much you feel as though you will bleed to death with the pain of it." He does what an exceptional counselor would do: he lets Harry get on with what he needs to do while contextualizing Harry's emotions, gently guiding him to a place where rational discourse can occur.

It's a shame to think that Sirius *would* actually be alive if Harry had trusted Snape, but Harry didn't have that justification (remember Snape had canceled Occlumency lessons), and the ending would've been kind of anticlimactic.
Ella
Pa, USA - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 02:48:02 PM


Afraid that has been up an awful long time without any further news so probably another red herring:((
Sue
- Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 02:05:13 PM

Czech AR fan Harriett Snape found out, that Alan will maby star in new movie called Wanted. More informations on Moveis.com: http://movies.go.com/movies/W/wanted_2002/
Alis , <alis@mybox.czfoo>
Trutnov, Czech Republic, - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 12:52:38 PM

Chandra, I have no idea either about the whereabout of Mr. Rickman, but apparently, the Azkaban shooting in Glencoe finished two weeks ago, and "Percy" / Chris Rankin has revealed to BBC that "the next block of filming for me is in July when the principals get back from Scotland, but I’m not sure exactly what we re doing. It’s a Great Hall scene I think." Which might mean Gloucester or Leavesden Studios/ Watford. http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/kids/rankin_azkaban2.shtml
Karin
- Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 10:48:15 AM

Well, the AR-realted news: I bought a set of German S&S promo photos -- mostly of the Dashwoods (of course) with a couple of pics of AR: Brandon carrying Marriane and Brandon talking with Eleanor. Sigh.
Ann W
AZ, USA - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 10:27:00 AM

SPOILER HP5 Thank you Sandy, I was beginning to think I had missed something major. If I had been Harry, I would have written Snape a short, non-detailed, somewhat cryptic note (in case he showed it to Malfoy) that stated that he empathized and was sorry for what he had gone through and that his father was in the wrong. Snape would have treated HP like he did the mother (calling her a mudblood) and THEN, I could see why HP hated him. JKR… next time call me, we’ll talk. She has good proofreaders, only found one mistake. I have MUCH more, but I’ll save it for later. Note, I am using capitals instead of italics, I am not shouting in the least. Hurry Sue, I read as slow as molasses traveling uphill in January, and I’m finished. Read ahead when kid is in bed asleep. LOL
MME
- Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 09:12:42 AM

DARK HARBOR ***SPOILERS***:

Lynda, we've discussed that before. There was an extra scene filmed where The Young Man is beat up by David in a motel room which was to go at the front end of the film. They (wisely) decided to leave it out as it would make the plot "too obvious" (which many of us felt it already was). But clearly that scene would make it clear that David and The Young Man had a prior relationship, and had staged the bit about finding him by the side of the road, which you can also surmise by David's insisting that Alexis "watch the road."

I believe Adam Coleman Howard spoke about this scene when the film aired at the (was it the 24th?) Seattle International Film Festival (alas, I was in Peru at the time), and Jeff Howard (producer) certainly did when it opened the (second) Main International Film Festival.

Georgiana
Seattle - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 08:00:28 AM


Well some of us haven't finished it yet!!
Sue
Reading out loud takes time... - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 07:03:34 AM

Well, I think Rickman is in Azkhaban for throttling the person who made up that news story about him and the donuts alone in a hotel room...
ACC
- Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 07:00:46 AM

Since it seems we're going to discuss The Book on this page anyway, I have a suggestion: Severus Snape and Nymphadora Tonks. This man needs pink hair in his life. Discuss.
Magda
Canada - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 06:45:27 AM

All this Snape discussion--I ran across this some months ago, and thought that if Shakespeare had written a sonnet with Snape in mind . . . well, read for yourself.

Sonnet CXIX.
“What potions have I drunk of Siren tears”

WHAT potions have I drunk of Siren tears
Distill’d from limbecks foul as hell within,
Applying fears to hopes, and hopes to fears,
Still losing when I saw myself to win!
What wretched errors hath my heart committed,
Whilst it hath thought itself so blessed never!
How have mine eyes out of their spheres been fitted,
In the distraction of this madding fever!
O benefit of ill! now I find true
That better is by evil still made better;
And ruin’d love, when it is built anew,
Grows fairer than at first, more strong, far greater.
So I return rebuk’d to my content,
And gain by ill thrice more than I have spent.


MA--Now imagining a fanfic with Shakespeare from a wizarding family.
"I'll break my staff and drown my magic books . . ." - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 05:46:24 AM


The web page name!

Malcolm McDowell Tribute

Thanks again, I'm hoping folks will see what I see - that Malcolm would be great as Mad Eye.
Chandra
NC, - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 05:09:30 AM


Casting Petition

My suggestion for Malcolm McDowell to play Mad Eye Moody in HP4 is picking up steam. I now have an online petition for the casting office to look at. Below is a link to the Malcolm McDowell fan site that features a link to the petition in the first item on the home page. I'll post a direct link to the petition later on today Please check it out.

The web page name

thanks!
Chandra , <chandrasoleil@hotmail.comfoo>
NC, - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 05:04:48 AM


Double deleted.
Suz (D.o.C.)

Oops, opinionated and trigger happy, it seems. Time for a second cup of tea.
Sandy
Canada - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 04:55:47 AM

HP5 SPOILER --- my, I'm opinionated this morning and it's not even 8:00 yet. Harry hates Snape because he's an ingrate. Really, he can't be too clever if he can't see how he's been helped all along by Snape. Maybe he's just upset because he has to live with the muggle family, deal with his raging hormones (I can relate to that), and the fact that he's being kept clueless by all the adults in his life. There is so much communication not happening here even I wanted to scream.
Sandy
Canada - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 04:51:55 AM

MORE SPOILER -DARK HARBOR---ACC, maybe David was hoping to find Alexis dead when he returned to the cottage with only two lobsters, but with a dead body on the premises and a murder to conceal, sitting down to a romantic meal might look a little suspicious. So many people to call, forms to fill out....
Sandy
Canada - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 04:29:25 AM

SPOILER - DARK HARBOR --- I think the Drifter lucked upon an unhappy couple and set his manipulative sites on Alexis but couldn't get anywhere with her. He then honed in on David's latent homosexuality.

When David was taking the Drifter across the lake (after the clams), the Drifter told David of the afternoon spent with Alexis. That's how David knew of the "dress up games" that were played in the barn. This could've been when David admitted his attraction to the Drifter and they planned Alexis' murder. They then "broke" the boat and returned to the island. The Drifter was a master manipulator.

The "creepy" actor Norman Reedus has an appropriate name for the role as "Read Us" is exactly what he did to David and Alexis and took complete control of them from the beginning.
Sandy
Canada - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 04:26:14 AM


As the kids were leading Umbridge into the woods I was chanting Aragog, Aragog....drums were beating, you know....

Where is AR?..no theater sightings in the UK or the US, quiet as a mouse...Filming Azkaban? vacationing in the Outback or Tibet or something? Like Aragog, I need fresh meat! (actually I don't eat much actual meat ick but you-all understand, don't you? (drums resume) Rickman.. Rickman.
Chandra
NC, - Tuesday, July 1st 2003 - 04:23:31 AM

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