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Melissa- Thanx for the non-Rima bit. I would have looked in the previous guestbooks, but for some reason, my computer won't unZip them. Technology. Go figure.
julia
wrentham, MA USA - 07/31/97 at 14:57:57
That would be John Hurt not Hurst--excuse me while I unfumble my fingers! Egads!!
Noel
USA - 07/31/97 at 14:50:13
KelClancy: Thank you so very much for the new articles on your site. They were all excellent and it was such fun to read something AR had written himself. I felt his essay provided quite a bit of insight into the acting process. Eva your comment regarding how artists are translated onto screen was perceptive. I do remember seeing a film 9 or 10 years ago about Van Gogh that was tremendously moving. I think it was called "Vincent"--no acting just John Hurst reading the correspondence between Vincent and Theo with the corresponding paintings on the screen. It was well-filmed with good pace. If you ever run across it, it is well worth seeing.
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/31/97 at 14:49:04
Hi all! Some really intersting postings! Must respond to some of you personally! SUSAN- Has this Oscar Wilde film actually be released? I would love some more info on it. WIlde is my favorite writter! I did hear mention of it sometime back. Thanks for any info. DEBBYE- Opps! sorry just realized I was shouting, sorry, I just joined Columbia House Video last week. I was thrilled with your posting to see that I can get Rasputin through the club. Thanks so much for posting that! Finally to Rankin, I'm not new to AOL or AR for that matter but I was not aware of the PCMusic keyword. I am going to check this out right now! Thanks for letting us know it was out there! Keep the great stuff comming everyone!
Michele <FMerc58402@aol.comfoo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/31/97 at 12:14:59
Liz Anne: Thank-you for that (profile) shot in the ARm.
Renie <reniept@hotmail.comfoo>
CA, - 07/31/97 at 12:04:00
I, for one, regret AR's decision not to take on Carrington. Maybe he could have done for Lytton Strachey, in life a fascinating character, something like what he did for Brandon. Emma Thompson was, as usual, enchanting, and the script did leave something to be desired. Jonathon Pryce was revolting! However, in AR's hands it could have been a different film altogether. The man who elegantly and wordlessly acted his first scene in AABA could have brought out the subtlely in Strachey. Oh well.
susan
USA - 07/31/97 at 11:14:39
Re: Christopher Hampton. I'll be very frank and say that I don't think CH is a very good screenwriter or director. It makes me wonder how much of LesLiasDang was worked out through rehersals with AR.

Secret Agent was terrible (and I had looked forward to it eagerly because of Christian Bale who is excellent). I was at the premiere at Toronto Film Festival. The narrative was so hacked up and the editing so obtuse that when CH and Bob Hoskins took questions after it was over, they were things like, "At the end, did Gerrard Depardieu jump off the train?" or "What were you selling in the store?"

With AR working on M&SP, it should be much better.
Laurie <lreid@cga.cafoo>
Toronto, Canada - 07/31/97 at 09:14:44


Following on from Robyn's posting about AR at 11 Downing Street on Tuesday evening - this was covered by the TV news programmes and guess what - there was a shot of AR in profile. He was in deep conversation with someone I couldn't identify, suited up and wearing his hair longish at the back.
Liz Anne
St Albans, England - 07/31/97 at 05:20:07
Wendy, NZ: Yes, I'm definately in New Zealand - about 15 minutes on the train to work in Wellington 3 days a week... Worst luck. I'd rather be back in England with my best friend Lis (since we were 12). At least we can write outselves into some interesting situations next door, now she is On-line!
Claudia
Whitby, NZ - 07/31/97 at 04:18:14
The earlier Gauguin movis is Oviri, directed by my fellow Dane Henning Carlsen and stars Donald Sutherland. I am not aware that Christopher Hampton was involved in this movie, but I can check it out. IT IS A STINKER OF A MOVIE. Movies on painters are often bad, think of Picasso, I would like M&SP to break that mould. Any news onwhen the production will start?
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/31/97 at 03:06:13
THAT book, written by THAT woman, says that AR second-guessed his decision not to play Lytton Strachey in Carrington. Well, he shouldn't have. I watched the film two nights ago on cable. And I pretty much regret having done so.

What can you do with a script that has an openly homosexual man (Jonathan Pryce) trying to steal a kiss from a noticely younger woman (Emma Thompson) whose opening salvo was, "I wish I'd been born a boy"?

Obviously they're confused - and Hampton's script is confused - and as a result we're confused.

Alan did himself a favor by turning this one down.
Robyn
Miami, USA - 07/30/97 at 23:47:16


To Gilda, Beth and Emma: I'm uncorking a virtual bottle of Madiera in your honour. Thanks for all your help!!
BTW, somebody here -- I think it was Melissa -- mentioned ages ago that Blind Corner was a sort of boy's adventure story. What age would it be good for? I'm debating whether to give it to my stepson (who's 12) or my nephew (who's 14), or whether to just send it back to Amazon Books.
Sign me Frustrated no longer :-)

Debbie <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/30/97 at 19:54:34
Thanks to all concerning info on Rasputin. I am a woman on mission! Also thanks to Noel for the invite next door; I'll probably take the plunge soon. BTW, I'm new to computers and the Internet, so this may be old hat to you all (or y'all as we say round here), but I found some sound files from DH on AOL. Keyword PCMUSIC and go to drama movie sounds. You can download "That's very kind of you" and "What idiot put you in charge". Thanks again for all the help on Rasputin - everyone is so nice here!
Rankin
Florence, SC USA - 07/30/97 at 19:07:03
Hello All: E! Online has an informative website at www.moviefinder.com. The following link brings you directly to the Alan Rickman Filmography. They list almost every film that Karina lists here. KARINA RULES!

The added attractions of moviefinder are the search facility and drilldown capabilities to movie summaries, reviews (looks like mostly Roger Ebert), availability of video/laserdiscs, ordering info, movie theaters, video stores etc.

Concerning the E! Online reviews, it's hard to take them seriously when, for Michael Collins, they say, in part, "...Neeson ... easily outshines a cast that includes Julia Roberts, Aidan Quinn and Alan Rickman doing work that definitely won't appear on their future résumés." No person takes credit for that remark. It's the E! Online review. Hard to believe; isn't it?

Cheers.
Andrea
LI, NY USA - 07/30/97 at 18:00:32


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Melissa
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/30/97 at 17:33:32
I'd like to plug the bio of actor/director/AR mentor/fellow Labourite Richard Wilson cited here by Robyn on July 18. It's everything that Paton's book, sadly, is not, and gives a lot of insight into the ways he and Rickman like to work. Re: the non-Rima, I think the best educated guess (a loooong time ago on the guestbook) was by Andrea Chavez in Idaho, who suggested that the mystery companion was younger sister Sheila. Take a look at the distinctive eyes.
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/30/97 at 17:29:21
Please forgive, my Rickmaniac acquaitances, my using this as a personals column. This is for KIMBERS: Pussycat! I've left word with Donal (the poor fellow almost collapsed from the shock of the sound of my voice) as to where you can reach me. I'll be in London again in a couple of weeks (as soon as I wrap here), and then the game's afoot! (PS: Have you seen the Rickman bio? Blanche!) xx/Mari
Mari
USA - 07/30/97 at 17:24:29
Upon re reading S&S (after seeing the movie), it seemed to me that Brandon was "the one that got away" in Jane Austen's life, but
a) I don't know much about Jane Austen's love life
b) old age is affecting my brain
c) Rickman's interpretation certainly casts a long shadow on the way I would view a character.
Certainly a man less patient than Brandon would not persist for as long as B did.

Emma
USA - 07/30/97 at 16:41:03
Rankin- -I ordered all my Rickman Films from the Columbia House Video Club. Rasputin is #1988807. To place an order: 1-800-262-2001. You don't have to be a member...they will start an account for you and send you the film or you can charge it. I have all his films except Mesmer and Close My Eyes and I got them there.
Debbye <toby.henderson@hq.doe.govfoo>
Washington, DC USA - 07/30/97 at 16:12:13
I'm referring to the guy who was a s., not the horse.
Emma
USA - 07/30/97 at 16:11:51
I agree with Lori. The first time I read S&S, and the reread, it seemed to me that Marianne clearly loved the Col. as strongly as she could love anyone, even better, since she'd outgrown the-cute-guy-in-a-horse-who-was-a-s*** and could appreciate the good man Brandon.
Emma
USA - 07/30/97 at 16:11:01
Hi! I'm new. But a longtime fan of AR, spurred into obsessiveness from waaaaay too many viewings of S&S. Just found out one of my online friends saw him in DangLiais on Broadway..I may have to kill her. :-) I reread S&S after seeing the movie. Good book...an amusing turn that was left out is that while everyone is in London it was widely believed that Brandon would be marrying Elinor, because they were very great friends in the book much more so than appeared on screen. One funny exchange between Elinor and Mrs. Jennings where Elinor is talking about Brandon's offer of the living at Delaford to Edward but Mrs. Jennings thinks she's talking about Brandon's proposal of marriage. And who says Marianna preferred Willoughby at the end? The book makes it clear that, her being unable to love someone halfway, she came to love Brandon just as much as she had Willoughby. Anyway, I had to rent Robin Hood for a fix the other day. Man, Kevin Costner is a bad actor. Made even worse seeming by his juxtaposition with a far superior thespian! Hope to see y'all on IRC sometime soon. --Lori
Lori Summers <summers.65@osu.edufoo>
Columbus, OH USA - 07/30/97 at 15:31:04
UK folk: does BAFTA have an archives? Or otherwise maintain (or print, perhaps in its publications) the texts of its sponsored lectures? Archivally speaking, BAFTA is our "fonds" (source of origin) for this. One hopes that somewhere it is maintaining its organizational history and records?
R.Faey, Archivist
USA - 07/30/97 at 15:28:50
Re: Richard Wilson: Nice new bio of AR's theater mentor has professional insights--and vignettes of AR & RH: holidaying in Crete, and choking down tripe at an unfortunate dinner party....
R.Faey
USA - 07/30/97 at 15:23:16
Per: a new Christopher Hampton study by Ben Francis (ISBN 182868193), CH has been trying to film THE MOON AND SIXPENCE for almost 20 years. Let's hope this time it happens! (CH wrote another Gauguin film, 1986's THE WOLF AT THE DOOR, with Donald Sutherland as PG. Does anyone know it?)
R.Faey
USA - 07/30/97 at 15:18:57
Eva- Yes! its the guy on the motorcycle. Oy! he's not famous for nothing! As for the title of the movie, In translation its House of Angels, but I'm afrid I don't know how that would translate. Its probably what you said. As for the language barrier, blame the Biblical people who built the tower of Babel. If it weren't for them, perhaps we'd see a lot more talent. Plus, the world would be a more peaceful place. I'm sorry I'm being depressing, but I'm still a little shaken after the news of the bombings in Jerusalem. Shalom!
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/30/97 at 15:04:55
Rankin, If you want to order Rasputin online go to:
http://www.videoexpress.com

Chris <ckwible@ptd.netfoo>
NJ USA - 07/30/97 at 14:39:19
Christine - YES!! Rickman would have been a great Marquis de Sade. Did you see "Closer" with Ciaran Hinds and Clive Owen? I could picture Rickman playing Larry easily, especially the cyber-sex scene!
Barbara
USA - 07/30/97 at 14:32:27
Rankin: Try your local Blockbuster--that is where I rented it from (it was in the new releases section but in the section where they put foreign and independent releases.) If you cna't find it, ask a clerk to look it up and locate it for you. It is in VHS format and is released by HBO. Go ahead and post next door. It is a definite free-for-all and it is always fun to hear/read a fresh voice. Who knows where the storyline will go next?! Cheers, Noel
Noel
USA - 07/30/97 at 12:54:50
Rankin -- I found Rasputin at my local video store. Its called Purple Pottamus Videos (very strange name) and I think its a chain. So it should be out there.
BC
Washington, DC USA - 07/30/97 at 12:52:43
I received a terse e-mail message from Sophie Bristow at the Edinburgh Festival last week in answer to my query about the availability of the BAFTA lecture on their Web Site or in print. As of July 24 she said there were no plans to publish it anywhere. Maybe now that it's an overnight sellout to the well connected they will make it available. Sophie just referred me back to www.edfilmfest.org.uk, which is of course where we came in...
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/30/97 at 12:24:34
Debbye - I wondered about AR's voice in S&S myself, then figured it might be all the high ceilings in the shoots. I live in an old house with high ceilings and it does change the timbre of your voice. Finally, ventured next door when I had insomnia couple of nights ago, pretty wild stuff! Thought about posting, but it's a little daunting; fun to read though. Also, no one has answered my inquiry about Rasputin - is there nowhere to get a copy? I haven't tried too many places, but the ones I have say it isn't available on VHS yet. Is this true? Thanks.
Rankin
Florence, SC USA - 07/30/97 at 12:04:34
No way can Liam Neeson play Oscar Wilde!! Hugh Grant could be good as Bosie. Did you catch him in the tiny role as the gay painter in Restoration? I didn't even realize it was him until the credits. Certainly you don't have to be gay to play Oscar Wilde, but you must be able to project a strong sense of style, not the befuddlement that Liam Neeson projects. I think Hugh Grant could do it justice, although Stephen Fry must be utterly miffed that anyone else was chosen.
susan
USA - 07/30/97 at 11:06:56
Julie, was it Anglagard, you saw? As there is many actors in that move, I would need a bit more to identify, but I suspect your are aking about the companion on the motor cycle, who is played by a famous Swedish singer/actor called Richard something. It could also be Sven Wolter, who playes the man, who turns out to be her father. Sven Wolter has been voted the sexist man in Sweden and has done many great movies and plays. Like AR he is also from a working class background and is involved in politics as left as it is at all possible. A wonderfull actor. Bruno Ganz the German actor can be seen in movies like the Sky over Berlin or Marquise von O. There are many graet European actors who do not get international recognition because of the language barrier. The French Daniel Auteil is another example.
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/30/97 at 08:02:56
Winter Guest is coming to Denmark as early as November 1997. Regarding Wuthering Height with RF it is difficult to find on video, but I did managed to find a copy in Paris for my friend who is the High Priestess of the RF temple here in Copenhagen. speaking of the dysfuntional stars of the Almeida, liam Neeson will play Oscar Wilde there later this year. He is also planning to play Wilde in a movie version with Hugh Grant as Bosie, which has been criticised even before it has begun. Liam Neeson has stated that he want to play Wilde with out focusing on the gay bits, with more focus on his boxing. In UK people have argued that Wilde could be played by a straight actor and that Stephen Fry who is also doing Wilde on film is a better choice, also because he is openly gay himself, than Neeson. I do not think you have to be gay to play gay, but I must admit that playing Wilde without the gay element seems irrelevant. But Almeida will the place to settle that argument. Regarding to much Emma Thompson. It could even have been a fourth movie, as AR turned down Lytton in Carrington. However she will be able to do M&SP very well and she has worked with Christopher Hampton before. This being her third movie with Rickman puts that partnership on almost equal levell as the professional Branagh Thompson partnership on movies, at least in the movies (Branagh and Thompson did also do some television and stage productions as well).
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/30/97 at 05:33:00
Lis...Glad to hear from someone who saw CCC. I saw it at the National in London. In Cambridge did they play it in round? A really increadible production from all aspects (lighting,costume,choreography, etc...) We also saw "Marat Sade" at the NT in the same space. I could see very easily the elustrious Mr. Rickman in the role as the Marquis de Sade. Did anyone see that? The Marquis was a complicated man and quite twisted and tortured. With the depth Mr. Rickman puts into his performances, the juicy role of Sade would be an incredible endeavor.
Christine
Portland, OR USA - 07/30/97 at 02:30:07
Alan was one of many entertainment figures who showed up last night at No. 11 Downing Street to celebrate both the Labour Party victory of last May and a newly announced tax break for British film-makers. Other guests at the reception were Richard Wilson, David Puttnam and Bob Hoskins Those of you who have access to the Brit papers should keep an eye out. There are bound to be photos!
Robyn
Miami, USA - 07/30/97 at 00:30:22
HEY EVERYBODY! Come next door, I'm driving a Porsche!
Skippy <barakel@msn.comfoo>
NJ USA - 07/29/97 at 20:40:45
#1. Mary Anne, Emma, or somebody who has Shakespeare In Performance, could you E-mail when it's convenient? I have a question regarding that book.
#2. Could anyone out there who has the recording of Blind Corner E-mail me also? I also have a question for you. I can't believe it! Amazon.com Books kept me waiting for months for Blind Corner, having assured me that it was AR's recording of the story they'd find me and not the book, so what do I get in the mail today?! Aaaggghhh. Honestly! I just can't win!!
Sign me "Frustrated again. :-(

Debbie <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/29/97 at 20:00:54
R Faey-Thanks for the Hans site (and for the Reel Clothes site - That's a dangerous place to visit!) Gail-Spielberg cast Fiennes in SL after seeing him as a very wicked Heathcliff in WH. Boy, was Spielberg right. I found WH with Fiennes to be excellent; he and Binoche have chemistry.
Renie
CA, USA - 07/29/97 at 19:27:48
Christine - I saw 'The Caucasian Chalk Circle'! It was a fabulous production - except for.... I saw it in Cambridge on 5 July at the Corn Exchange which has apalling acoustics for a play. Juliet was fantastic - she is truly my favorite English actress. I think that one of the reasons I like TMD so much is that it had my two most favourite actors in it! Michael Maloney was a bonus.... Anyway, back to 'The Caucasian Chalk Circle' - have you actually seen it? I wasn't entirely sure from your message - I think you did?! I was so excited to see Juliet - I've been looking out for something for ages.
Lis
UK - 07/29/97 at 17:40:49
A scholarly publication (?), "Happy Trails, Hans: Roy Rogers as the New Heroic Ideal," by EJ Abele, is at http://www.qni.com/~ijournal/issue03/features/diehard1.htm. Touts McClane as a warm, family-man hero, but also has brief sound and video clips of Hans, and a picture of the fall.
R.Faey
USA - 07/29/97 at 17:25:45
Fans of the art of sardonic eyebrow raising (Rickman division) might also be interested in a version of Wuthering Heights that was shown on a local Toronto TV station last night. Made in 1992, it starred Juliet Binoche, Janet McTear (who is such a hit on stage in NY at the moment in The Doll's House - I think) and Ralph Fiennes. I presume it would have been made either just before or after Schindler's List and Fiennes certainly seems to have perfected both the eyebrow lifting and the evil stare. Looks equally good with raven black hair as with blond in the English Patient! The film was generally well made with the usual cast of stalwart Brits and worth looking out for, in video form or telecast.
Gail <grayment@istar.cafoo>
Toronto, Canada - 07/29/97 at 17:25:36
Claudia told me that I had to tell you all that I've seen AR in the flesh - gives me goosebumps just thinking about it! Brrr. I had the opportuntity to see him in a production of Hamlet about four years ago - I remember it like yesterday! At work I have the poster from the production on the wall right behind my monitor (they tell me my office is like a teenager's bedroom (I'm 31 going on 13)). I went to Hamlet with a friend, Chris. She has an even bigger claim to AR than me. She saw him in Les Liasons and went to the stage door afterwards and got her picture taken with him (Gnash Gnash! - am I the jealous type!). Anyway, I'm going to pass her details of this and she may be able to tell you everything herself. Steve and I are in the process of moving at the moment - when we finally get to the new house AR (the signed version) will go back over my side of the headboard - I guess that's as close as I'll ever get to him in the .... Yes OK catch you later!
Lis/Elisabeth/Wizzy - you choose! <lis@varzil.demon.co.ukfoo>
UK - 07/29/97 at 17:18:14
Oops! forgot to say, Boston area fans, QDU is on on Friday at 8pm on UPN 38. Check your local listings! As for Emma Thompson, do you think this is type casting, putting her in 3 of AR's movies. With all due respect, Enough Already!
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/29/97 at 15:41:48
Karen- Awwwwwww! How cute! And the smile... Oh, I shiver, I melt. Everyone- Yesterday I watched a Swedish movie on Bravo called house of Angels. Its a nice little movie, but the important part is that there's a guy in it whose voice is (gasp) like Alan's sacred voice. That got my attention. Now, I don't know his name, (Eva, perhaps its Bruno Ganz?) but he is truly sex on legs! This guy is actively sexy, whereas Alan, (in my opinion) is passively sexy.But the voice! I never dreamed it could be duplicated. Another love? Lovely.Oh, in case youre wondering about his appearance, he's extremely tall, looks like my favorite sheriff, and his smile is *Incredible!* I will now duck to avoid the sharp objects flying at me.Bye for now!
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/29/97 at 15:34:17
I have the RSC Yearbook, an A4 size softback: Royal Shakespeare Company 1985/86, 1986/87: a complete record of two years' work, RSC Publications, Stratford, 1987, ISBN 1 869985 02 8. Every play produced in that time gets 2-4 pages with full cast lists, critical comment and lots of small photographs, fully captioned. As You Like It: AR is on p14 in close-up as (a debonair and melancholy Jaques who plays every part as he describes it in 'All the world's a stage'), on p15 with ensemble. Troilus & Cressida: on p 18 as 'Alan Rickman's disarmingly rakish' Achilles. There are 2 pages (34/35) on Les Liaisons Dangereuses, with AR in all 4 photos. Rickman's Valmont 'languorously drawling his way through a series of seductions with the sinuous charm of a snake hypnotising its prey'...'Languid, darkly handsome, Alan Rickman makes a perfect Vicomte: plausible, cruel, and only less of an intellect than his partner'. Mephisto: 140-142, AR in 3 photos. 'Alan Rickman's Hoefgen, Billington thought, "suggests the orphaned isolation of the star and a quality of superior detachment."' There are lots of other people, Juliet Stevenson and Lindsay Duncan, Jeremy Irons, Tony Sher, Ben Kingsley, Kenneth Branagh, Sean Bean etc.etc. Recommended. Screen International this week has The Moon and The Sixpence [sic] in pre-production and adds Emma Thompson to the cast.
Jean <geoff.cram@virgin.netfoo>
Leeds, UK - 07/29/97 at 15:26:52
Emma-Yes, but KB and the book are pretty off-topic, so we might want to talk about it elsewhere. Drop me a line if you like.
Renie
CA, USA - 07/29/97 at 15:16:00
Karen-Sweet story. I can just picture that smile now. Christine-Please contact me privately to talk Branagh.
Renie <reniept@hotmail.comfoo>
CA, USA - 07/29/97 at 15:12:12
Christine, Karen, thank you! Two fine looking gentlemen, and so interesting, both! My heart goes pitter-patter. Has anyone read Branagh's autobiography?
Emma
USA - 07/29/97 at 15:10:38
Hi All! Nice to see so many fans out there. I've never had exactly what you might call a "Rickman encounter" but I did get to participate (along with about 10,000 others!) in the crowd scene of Michael Collins where Alan (as De Valera) addresses an audience. It was great! He seemed really tense and nervous at first but really warmed to the lines and soon had everyone roaring out their reactions to his speech. He was very serious apart from one moment when a continuity girl rushed in between takes to comb his hair which had fallen over his forehead. The audience as one immediately said "Awwwwww" and the smile that that produced was truly amazing. I think I became a fan at that point!
Karen
Dublin, Ireland - 07/29/97 at 14:25:41
Emma - He was back to his tresses of strawberry blond, and looked much like he did in Dead Again...but better. A truly handsome man he is! Much better in person and such an incredible presence. It was a very relaxed atmosphere, and he chatted about his early Henry V days as a young film maker and the ingenuity it takes to get your dream out there. He had quite a bit of insight into the buying and selling of ideas (selling your idea, yourself, or your soul) He was very encouraging to students in the audience and a bit jaded when it came to discussion of producers and distributors. It was interesting to hear him speak of the evolution of his career and his first endeavors as a director... then to watch Hamlet, his latest. A truly talented and charismatic man. I had just been at Blenheim Palace the week before and it was incredible to see the grounds and house before the film. CHILLS!!!! Cheers!
Christine
USA - 07/29/97 at 14:04:21
I was so pleased to see that there was a web site for Alan Rickman fans. I'm a great admirer of him. Please keep the web site updated. Thanks!
April Bosmans <APRIL1108@aol.comfoo>
Wilmington, NC USA - 07/29/97 at 12:51:27
Christine, what did Branagh say at the lecture? And was his hair still bleached or did he go back to his natural strawberry blond?
Emma
USA - 07/29/97 at 09:06:37
Did I say BAFTRA?? I meant BAFTA?? Maybe it should be the British Addicts of Films by Rickman Association?
Christine <ChriRich@aol.comfoo>
USA - 07/29/97 at 02:09:54
Back from a much needed vacation to the UK. While I was in London I went to a screening of Hamlet and lecture by Kenneth Branaugh, to benefit the Panico Media Workshop and celebrate BAFTRA 100 years (great trailer!!) I was wondering if anyone who reads this was there, and what did you think of his comments? Also I would love to hear if anyone saw the Royal NT production of "Caucasian Chalk Circle" with the talented Juliet Stevenson. I enjoyed both, but I'd like to hear what others thought of both? The only thing missing from my trip was an Alan Rickman encounter, but I guess you have to leave something for the next trip!! I really enjoy reading this board. There are some truely, madly, and deeply creative minds at work here.
Christine <ChriRich@aol.comfoo>
Portland, OR USA - 07/29/97 at 02:04:25
Claudia - thanks for adding to my vocabulary. As a servant of Dracula I could bite my own neck for not knowing that there's a Whitby in New Zealand. Assuming you're not pulling the collective Rickmaniac leg, of course! Speaking of which,(addressing all and sundry) I initially thought the delectable Mr. Rickman would make a good Dracula, but on reflection maybe Van Helsing would be better. And is it just me or does he play Tybalt a lot like the Sheriff? Good excuse to get out the videos of both! At least with Tybalt I can pretend I'm watching it for the Shakespeare anyway.
Wendy
New Zealand - 07/29/97 at 01:59:40
OH, I left out the most important part of the oddest thing about that mural.. its a mural of Michael Collins.. Jill at work is leaving for England Wednesday and I get to driver her to the airport.. always a brides maid and never a bride. I am making doggey whining noises at her all day and and asking her to bring back rocks and soil from West London..and Jean asks if she should go to Edinborough? Oh yes, she should go. I loved that dream, forgot who had it, felt like I had it. Makes me paranoid to be a journalist..I hope its not that the jobs so superficial by necessity and therefore the entire job as a profession is in question. When I was 11 and 12 I pretended to be HL Menchen all the time and drove my parents crazy! That I think is pure. Oh well, rejection has so many levels.
Ellen
USA - 07/28/97 at 23:59:30
Hello everyone. I've just made my first trip next door and WOW! Is this great or what?!!
Michele <FMerc58402foo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/28/97 at 19:56:33
First of all, Hi Nancy! Haven't seen you here for a while. Thanks loads for the Players of Shakespeare info!
Also, for what it's worth, I E-mailed the people who've put together the Edinburgh Film Festival web-site last week asking if they knew whether a transcript or some other film or print document was going to be made of Alan's speech. No response has come, (not that I really expected one), so I don't know if anything's planned, but maybe if enough of us show an interest, there might be some sort of permanent document made. Who knows? It may be worth a try. :-)

Debbie <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/28/97 at 19:35:27
You can also do a book review at www.amazon.com, which are carrying the Patton book.
Emma
USA - 07/28/97 at 18:33:39
Bowes-Lyon@British.Books.American.Prices.com and it's info wanted.
Jean
UK - 07/28/97 at 18:02:21
It did not write this address -try again! Info_wanted

Jean
Leeds, UK - 07/28/97 at 17:55:54
I have posted a short and sharp comment to this site who actually invite comment on the Paton book. That feels better!
Info_wanted
Boohoo and woe is me - I have not been successsful in getting tickets for the Alan Rickman BAFTA lecture. According to the Box Office girl, who wanted to go herself, it was a total sell- out to insiders. I'll write to AR and ask if anything can be done about a transcript, or filming the talk for TV (for publicity etc). I'll also suggest it to various TV programmes and email addresses. Wonder if it's worth going to Edinburgh just in case I see him. I wish!

Jean <geoff.cram@virgin.netfoo>
Leeds, UK - 07/28/97 at 17:52:54
Watched the first episode of Rilley Ace of Spies with Sam Neill. Terrific cast, Sam's better than ever, and the theme music is a wonderful violin piece by D. Shostakovich (don't know the name since it was not listed in the credits). So now I found a Sam Neill page at www.kevin.net/~erika/sn.html. Where do I find time for all this?
Emma
USA - 07/28/97 at 16:29:26
Question- if the woman in the AR bio isn't Rima, then who is she? Wasn't that the same woman with Sweetheart at the Emmys and the Golden Globes? And if not who was that?
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/28/97 at 15:37:56
Hello, everyone. You should check out KelClancy's page -- 4 new articles (new to me, anyway) are posted. There is one from '92 on TMD with extensive stuff from Juliet Stevenson. But alas, our boy didn't impress the interviewer with his bubbling personality. There's another from '85 with AR's and Branagh's philosophy of acting, etc., which is great. Interestingly, I was reading along in the TMD interview, enjoying every word, until AR "joined them at lunch". Then even my obsessed self was put off. I'd sure like to read whatever article-review-interview that caused him to treat all future interviewers as if they had the plague. Judging from the portion with Juliet Stevenson, this interviewer (I forget her name) would have done a great job with any remarks he chose to make. But it appears he didn't give her the chance. Lord knows I no lover of the press, but there are a few good people out there. Maybe the levels of publicity around Diehard changed his attitude. Anyway, thanks, Kel!
BC
Washington, DC USA - 07/28/97 at 14:40:56
The book Players of Shakespeare, mentioned in earlier postings, comes in several volumes; volume 2 (with Kenneth Branagh on the cover) is the one that features Alan Rickman. It consists of essays by Royal Shakespeare Company actors describing roles they played between 1982 and 1987. AR's essay is on Jaques in As You Like It, and there are 2 photos of him (unless eagle-eyed Robyn can find more!). One photo is full-paged and shows him looking a bit like Jamie. Other contributors include Branagh, Juliet Stevenson, Ben Kingsley, and David Suchet and Edward Petherbridge (familiar to fans of "Mystery" as Poirot and Lord Peter Wimsey, respectively). It's published by Cambridge University Press and cost 12 pounds 95 pence (about $20). I got it at a theater in England - I'm ashamed to say I'm not sure which; I think it may have been the Barbican. North of the river, with a big enclosed courtyard. It has an RSC bookstore on the premises. I recommend the book: a rare chance to read AR's own words.
Nancy R. <nroberts@pop.sonic.netfoo>
CA USA - 07/28/97 at 14:38:20
Yes, indeed, thanks for the book info everyone! On another note, I had an interesting little dream last night. AR was giving an interview to this inexperienced little guest host, and being all defensive and Alan-like when he was interrupted by this other host who started talking about her sister's wedding to the camera. AR showed immediate interest, and kept looking at her and asking her these questions, trying to make her look at him. All of a suudden, a knock came on the door (" 'Tis some visitor, I muttered, knocking on my chamber door, merely this, and nothing more") AR got up and opened it, and there was this really annoying reporter who asked him for an interview. Alan just slaamed the door in his face, and you could hear the guy's voice, all muffled, saying "I guess that means no, Mr. Rickman" Then I appeared, out of nowhere, and I said, "just for that, I'd like to shake your hand!" He just shook his head and mumbled, "No." Then, all this became a film presentation at the first annual Rickmania Convention! I should live to see that day! So, who's gonna set it up? (interview clip not included) Better question, can we get AR himself to appear? Oh, dare I dream?...sigh.
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/28/97 at 14:37:31
Thanks, Noel. Emma, thanks for the BBC link. I've had to do some *work* at work. (The nerve of some bosses!) Been hanging out with my real family lately who insist that I drop this Alan Rickman Thing. (In fairness to them...they have suffered through my obsession with Smokey Robinson since I was twelve! BTW--Smokey Robinson and Alan Rickman are both born on February 21 and if I'm not mistaken..the same year. Must be something to it.) Welcome back, Rebecca. Hey...have we lost Ellen of St. Albans? Haven't seen a post from her recently.
Debbye
USA - 07/28/97 at 14:35:35
Thanks for the book info everyone!
Debbie <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/28/97 at 14:01:28
Debbye: You're back!!! Great to hear/read (?) you! Alas! poor Kate is away from our little circle for the week which hopefully explains your not receiving word from her. Yea for E.T. gracing the Venice Film Fest--thanks for all the tidbits to Eva and Rafaella. TMD all, Noel
Noel <nmm@episcopalhighschool.orgfoo>
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/28/97 at 13:24:31
Robyn, you eagle-eyed girl! Thanks! You're right, he's in the center of the picture at the top of the stairs. What is he wearing!?
Emma
USA - 07/28/97 at 11:51:06
Ok, everybody who got a look at the Troilus and Cressida photo of Alan, flip the page over to find the second photo of Alan in T&C. On page 234, look for him on the staircase, behind the duelists. See?

Enjoy!
Robyn <RobynR22@aol.comfoo>
USA - 07/28/97 at 11:01:18


The July 7 issue of "For Women First" has an article called "Why Women Today Can't Have Enough of Those Old-Fashioned Heroes". It included a picture of AR from S&S with the caption, "The dashing officer: There's nothing like a man in uniform, especially when it's Alan Rickman as the soulful lover Colonel Brandon in Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility."
Andrea
USA - 07/28/97 at 10:39:13
Oops! The book I mentioned on Saturday is *Shakespeare in Performance*, not *Players of Shakespeare*. Sorry about the confusion, people. It's been mentioned here before because of the picture of AR when he was Achilles in *Troilus and Cressida*.
Mary Anne
USA - 07/28/97 at 09:10:48
Oop! Debbie, sorry, I don't have info on Players of Shakespeare. Neither of my two books is Players of Shakespeare, obviously. Sorry I got carried away.
Emma
USA - 07/28/97 at 08:59:12
Debbye, yes, I got your e-mail, did you get mine?
Debbie, re: books: There are 2 nice books on Shakespeare:
Shakespeare in Performance, consultant editors Keith Parsons & Pamela Mason, Salamander Books, London@1995, ISBN 0-517-14091-8, which I got for $7.98 at Barnes &Noble
and The World of Shakespeare by Anna Claybourne & Rebecca Treays, EDC Publishing, Oklahoma, ISBN 0-7460-2454-1, which I got from www.amazon.com a few months ago, I think for $10 or so.
As a Shakespeare fan, I liked both books. Also, each has a nice picture of Rickman, but I liked the books for other reasons.

Emma
USA - 07/28/97 at 08:56:02
Love and kisses, Members of the the *Secret Society* of Rickmaniacs! Julia and Rankin..."I fell the earth move" when Col. Brandon speaks...especially when he says, "A great pleasure indeed." Is it me...Alan does Col. Brandon's voice different than all the other characters I've seen so far. The Voice is in a very deep and rich register. I guess because Brandon is so laid-back, so to speak, he put everything in his delivery. That Voice is a character all by itself!! (Think I'll spin me a thread next door with that in mind...or Mary Anne, Renie, Kate and Claudia can...they're far better at it!!) Kate and Emma...I tried to e-mail you...did you get it??
Debbye <toby.henderson@hq.doe.govfoo>
Washington, DC USA - 07/28/97 at 08:46:09
According to Reuter, Emma Thompson will attend the Venice Film Festival, whih undoubtely will help to bring TVG more media coverage.
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/28/97 at 07:20:14
Hi Lis (I can't call you that, Elisabeth - Lis doesn't sound right!) Welcome to the real world!!! You must tell everyone you are in England and have seen the man in the flesh (and in a love scene no less)!! Your signature comes up as USA (the default)so don't forget to change it next time!! I know, it is all very confusing. I don't visit here very often, next door is far too interesting, so see you there...
Claudia
Whitby, NZ - 07/28/97 at 05:38:36
Wendy - a troll is someone who shouldn't be here! Someone who hops around the web, creating havok, leaving silly messages or pretending they are someone they are not, and getting everyone's hopes up!!!
Claudia
Whitby, New Zealand - 07/28/97 at 05:32:55
Would someone please explain what a troll is? Thanks.
Wendy
New Zealand - 07/28/97 at 01:10:00
Too all, the oddest thing...I just finished watching "Portrait Of Jenny" on AMC and I'd forgotten in the film the artist Eben Adams paints a mural on the wall of an irish pub in exchange for food, and when he unvails it...it looks like Liam N. But this film was made before Liam was even born.. Its the oddest thing...
Ellen
USA - 07/27/97 at 16:28:42
Hello Again! Sorry I haven't written for ages, but I was really busy. TWG at Venice Film Festival!! When I read it on the newspaper (oh, Alan's sacred name...obviously misspelled) I nearly burst into tears: my daring dream had become reality. Too bad I'm not in Italy in September!!! I hope they're going to present it before 31/8 (another daring dream, isn't it?). I live near Milan, that's only 5 hours by train from Venice.....*SIGH*... Eva, I agree with you: dubbing is a curse, especially for Alan's magnificent voice. They're always making a mess of it. I'm so happy he'll be in TM&S. I loved the book, I know Alan is going to be a raving Strickland. Ciao
Raffaella <rossross@busto.working.itfoo>
Italy - 07/27/97 at 16:04:52
Wow! Claudia I finally made it. Like your comment about intelligent people coming to AR! AR's got class - so we must have too! Just saying hi for now. Want to go back and read what everyone's submitted. It feels like joining some secret society!
Lis - or Wizzy!
USA - 07/27/97 at 16:03:58
And it's great when people join in next door by reading and/or posting! Day one at the FOF guestbook can be reached by scrolling all the way down. Earlier virtual parties, as well as lots of *wonderful* discussion, insight and information about AR can be found in past guestbooks.
Renie <reniept@hotmail.comfoo>
CA, USA - 07/27/97 at 14:01:21
Michelle...go to the top of this page and click on "a guestbook page devoted to fiction and/or virtual parties" and you will find yourself in a fantasy land devoted to an ongoing party/story with all AR's characters participating.
Chris <ckwible@ptd.netfoo>
NJ USA - 07/27/97 at 12:12:37
Ummm.....I'm still kind of new to this page, would one of my fellow AR fans enlighten me to what "Next Door " is.....Thank you!
Michele <FMerc 58402@aol.comfoo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/27/97 at 10:37:17
Mary Anne, who's the authour of Players of Shakespeare? Is there a Volume Number?
Debbie <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/27/97 at 02:57:26
Mary Ann, the book is wonderful by itself. AR' contribution made it all the more special. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
Sherree <stagmgr@gte.netfoo>
USA - 07/26/97 at 21:24:07
Skippy--glad to have you with us next door! (Calls next door--"Hey, everybody--another addict!") But fasten your seatbelt--it's going to be a bumpy ride for a while! Hope we'll see a lot of you in our adventures . . .
Mary Anne
USA - 07/26/97 at 17:21:17
Oh, and Sherree--Alan as Richard III--that scene with Lady Anne . . . oh good Lord, I'd better carry this next door where it belongs! (grin) I'd give a pretty to see him in that role, but I probably wouldn't survive the experience. BTW, picked up the book *Players of Shakespeare* today at my local Barnes & Noble (someone mentioned it here not long ago). Most definitely a good purchase! I won't say a word and spoil anything for anyone . . . and the price was right, $7.98.
Mary Anne
USA - 07/26/97 at 17:18:20
WOW! I just went "next door" for the first time.Oh my God it's great!
Skippy <barakel@msn.comfoo>
NJ USA - 07/26/97 at 16:39:58
Rankin, and others...I have our web page listed in Karina's links under Rickman links. (I guess that is your question). If you have trouble accessing it, let me know! Also, hitting my name here, below, brings the page up...at least in theory!!
Teri <fleasoap@mail.cvn.netfoo>
Gettysburg, PA USA - 07/26/97 at 16:12:39
Ooops! If anyone wants to hekp me find out what AR is up to please e-mail me at this address, and not the previous one thanks!.
Daryl <DGILLESPIE1@COMPUSERVE.COMfoo>
Glasgow, Scotland - 07/26/97 at 16:06:14
I've just finished reading Ms Paton's tome on AR, and feel as if I still dont know what to make of it. Does anyone else feel this way ? Does anyone out there know what AR is doing at the moment, as I cant find any details of any current project. It would be great if someone can enlighten me.
Daryl <DGILLESPIE@COMPUSERVE.COMfoo>
Glasgow, Scotland - 07/26/97 at 16:02:44
Dears, if the interview clip of AR in MC that you were talking about is the same one as on the MC page, then I have a different interview! In mine, he gets asked two questions, and the answers, though similar to the clip, are different. Shall I make a transcript, then? (sorry about bringing it up, but I want to be helpful)
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/26/97 at 15:39:11
Noel--if you think you're weak in the knees now . . . chuckle. Just you wait (next door) . . .
Mary Anne
USA - 07/26/97 at 15:31:31
Re: Gilda--I, too, have not been able to access several web sites on the link page: "Kari Guy," "Die Hard Script" and "Making of Sense & Sensibility." Somebody, please help!
Suzanne K. <skurtz@cvtv.netfoo>
Hallettsville, TX USA - 07/26/97 at 14:40:29
well, since we're on the subject of S&S, I think I'll tell you all the first time I saw AR (just because you care!) My mother wanted to see S&S and dragged little old unwilling and unaware me along. For some reason, she didn't understand the dinner scene, and I had to explain it to her. This made me miss his lovely entrance (Is it just me, or does he limp?) I was still explaining when all of a sudden I heard The Voice say "A great pity indeed". I swung my head around to the screen so fast that I'm surprised the whole theatre didn't hear my neck crack! I sat on the edge of my seat for the entire movie hoping that my mother wouldn't notice my drooling. On the drive home I had to answer my mother in one- word sentences because in my head, I was repeating, "Alan Rickman, Alan Rickman... " That was it for me. I was smitten. "Oh, lift me as a wave, a leaf, a cloud! I fall upon the thorns of life! I bleed!" - Ode to the West Wind by Percy Bysshe Shelley.
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/26/97 at 14:37:14
I'm back! Stratford, Ontario was wonderful. Romeo and Juliet was enjoyable as well, tho not for the main actors. Geordie Johnson (Dr. Oliver of The English Patient) was exceptional as Mercutio! I've missed you all here. Its taken me quite a while to get caught up on the page after being gone for a week. TMD all,
Rebecca <raheltun@mtu.edufoo>
MI USA - 07/26/97 at 14:24:09
Noel & Skippy - I first went head over heels on AR in that scene in S&S when he first opens his mouth ("A great pleasure indeed). Of course Marianne does not deserve him! Two questions - how do I access Teri's web page and does anyone know where I can get a copy of Rasputin that's not too pricey? It's one of the few I haven't seen yet and I'm dying!
Rankin
Florence, SC USA - 07/26/97 at 10:18:57
AR was here in the Dallas, TX area about 3 years ago to do a benefit for the Shakespeare Festival of Dallas. They wanted him for Richard III a previous year, but he had a chance to make a film and turned them down. Can you imagine AR as Richard? And in that scene with Anne, I believe it is? Anywho, since the benefit was at SMU and was too pricey for a student ($150 for 1 ticket), I was not able to attend. As I do recall, however, it was well attended.
Sherree W. <stagmgr@gte.netfoo>
Garland, TX USA - 07/26/97 at 00:10:58
...Once in love with Alan... always in love with Alan...
(Sigh)
Sorry, I've been feeling particularly day-dreamy over the past couple of days. Too much E-mailing about Mesmer's and Rasputin's kissing scenes, I guess!
Anyway, just thought since we do post song bits here from time to time, this would be appropriate.
Have a good weekend, everybody! :-)

Totally Smitten :-)
Canada - 07/26/97 at 00:09:13
Kate you lucky girl--a bullet hole and blood! Thanks for the address Emma. Should we all request the Neruda poem "The Dead Woman" read by you-know-who to make it unanimous? Julia, it seemed to me that J. Brett had said the quoted comments to AR himself which makes me less inclined to take offense. What a pity that his life ended the way it did. Skippy, I loved that about Col. Brandon that he was moved by Marianne before laying eyes on her. Thanks for reminding me of it. In fact I think that is my favorite scene of him including "the air is full of spices"! We should all be so lucky to have a Col. Brandon in our lives. If you want more of Col. Brandon's perfect manners and discernment--check him out next door. I get weak in the knees everytime our Mary Ann mentions him! TMD to all and lovely weekends as well!
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/25/97 at 23:24:13
As your semi-resident Lost Angel, I'm up for a trip over to Reel Clothes (and It's A Wrap) every so often. If anyone would like a first-hand report on something, please let me know. If I'm in the time zone and I'm not under deadline, I'm your woman for verification of Studley's duds.
Mari
USA - 07/25/97 at 19:36:51
I watched S&S last evening {again} and the one thing that stays with me is the fact that Col. Brandon loved Marianne from the moment he heard her singing and then saw her.She on the other hand continuiously blew him off until Willoughby the man/child was definitely out of the picture. I guess my point is that the Twinkie didn't deserve the likes of him,maybe HE was happy but who do you think she was thinking about staring off into the distance like that. I have never read the book,does it give more insight into their relationship?
Skippy <barakel@msn.comfoo>
NJ USA - 07/25/97 at 19:22:52
Me again!
Re: Poems By Post, they want you to request now for an October program because it takes that long to get the copyright situation cleared for world-wide broadcast. Rickmania time!

Emma
USA - 07/25/97 at 19:20:20
The BBC World Service is starting its Poems By Post program again next October, and they want people to submit their requests. I already requested the poem from TMD, or a selection from TROTN tape, in honor of all Rickmaniacs.
The BBC website is BBC World Service From there you can e-mail: poems.post@bbc.co.uk. They want you to be as specific as possible: poem name, book title, author, etc.

Emma
USA - 07/25/97 at 19:16:48
Guess what?! Last week, some female co-workers and I were discussing my favorite sheriff. They agreed he dominated the movie, but alas, he's just a man to them! I brought in my DUPLICATES of RH:POT and TMD for a second viewing. A 23-year-old male intern walked by my desk and said, "Alan Rickman". My mouth dropped to the floor. We discussed the movies briefly and his final comment was, "He's a bad boy!". There is hope!
Valerie
Richmond, IN USA - 07/25/97 at 18:22:57
Hi all! I spoke to Leonard at Reel Clothes and he says that they have another shirt with a bullet hole. It doesn't have the blood, but AR did wear it for the filming of the first gunshot wound. He has also promised to post here if and when Reel Clothes receives any more AR stuff. Gotta run and I'll *see* you all a week from Monday. I'll miss you!
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/25/97 at 16:05:06
"wouldn't it be loverly?" "If I only had some cash" Damnit, I want something AR wore too! You must excuse me, but I missed a day, and wish to respond to that Jeremy Brett thread I seem to have started. Mr. Brett was not eccentric, he was seriosly ill. He had bipolar disorder, also known as manic depression. Meaning, that in cycles of several years, he would become either very depressed and paranoid, or very "up" and even a remote possibility might seem real to him. In both cases, he would be prone to exaggeration. He was taking medicine for this, but the large doses necessary to control his mood swings caused his body to retain water. this made his heart weak, and in September of 1995, Mr. Brett died of heart failure. "Isn't it a pity, Now isn't it a shame..." Anyway, may he rest in peace, and may you all get on with the other threads. "the soapbox is now free" :)
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/25/97 at 14:33:22
Thanks to R. Faey we now know that Hollywood markets its props & costumes to the public, but now I wonder if anyone has found a comparable outlet for the British or Irish film industries? What happened to all the *stuff* used in MC, S&S, or The Winter Guest? I'd buy one of those false seaside boulders or magic pieces of ice!
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/25/97 at 11:19:53
L: "...difficulty..." Egads, Kate, untangle those fingers!!!
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/25/97 at 11:09:47
Livia, That should have been "Your english may come with difficultly to you..." Your english (or at least your typing) is better than mine!!!
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/25/97 at 10:02:41
Hi everyone! Noel and Emma, thanks for the sentiments. I, too, covet the blue silk shirt, but figured I was doing enough damage with the brown one (besides, the fx factor of the "bullet hole" and "blood" appealed to me - one more specialty in the bargain). I hope that they haven't tried to clean, wash, pretty up, or otherwise blaspheme my relic. I hope that since it has "blood" on it, they will have left it alone.

Livia, Bienvenuto. I don't know how to stop the "Egads!" message, but, if I understand your question properly, you were also asking for a translation. It is merely an exclamation of surprise and/or mild shock. It is a Victorian version of "Ye Gods," which they felt was improper at best and blasphemous at worst. Your english may come difficultly to you, but I assure you that it comes across as faultless. I tend to be a grammar nazi, so this is no light compliment.

Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/25/97 at 10:00:30


Hi all! Mari, thanks for your idea re: putting my Paton book edit on the Web! And my pleasure to post the Die Hard site. I posted it along with two or three others not long ago in the guestbook. One was the Italian version of the Michael Collins site, which was neat. My Italian is not that great, but it seems to read the same as the American version. (There's a Mexican site as well.) A question: regarding the LINKS page, I had trouble getting into some of these sites because they require a password. How can you contact the Web developer of that site to be "admitted" onto their site? Did anyone else have this problem? Thanks!
Gilda
CT USA - 07/25/97 at 09:47:11
Well, Eva the TMD offer still stands. Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the German bits of the song. I know a place where that will come in very h*andy.
Renie
CA, USA - 07/25/97 at 03:56:13
Truly Madly Deeply without that voice was special. The voice they had chosen sounded a bit like Bruno Ganz, the truly great German actor, but nowhere near the real thing. However the German is not quite left out as the song bites were in the original English voices. Du hat schmertzlich vergessen. The sun aint gonna shine anymore. Das ist dein Schwester. Very stange. However, both AR and Juliet Stevenson came over very well because they play with the face not just the voice. I agree that voiceover is appalling and it takes so much from the performance. But it is done in probably more than 50% of the world market, and a lot people, even people who adore and admire AR will never hear the prober voice. My theory is that an actor who is only acting with the voice like Kenneth Branagh probably never will win an international audience whereas actors with no voice but photogenic faces (Costner for one) can do very well internationally. I pity the Germans and others who cannot choice for themselves.
Eva
Copenhagen, denmark - 07/25/97 at 03:18:46
I've had a sinus infection and a trip to the dentist today but visiting the guestbook has perked me up no end. Livia it is great to hear from you--it is so great to be able to communicate with people from all over! It is also great to see familiar names over at Pemberly (hi Suzanne!) I voted yes for a joint group read of M&S. Welcome home Joan. Reel clothes is such a find R.Fahey and many congratualations to Kate. I covet the blue silk shirt not to mention the 3 pc. outfit--I've always loved that retro Russian peasant look. I am almost through watching "Portrait of a Lady"--I am a little disappointed--slow and lacklustre altho. the costumes, cinematography are gorgeous. I think John Malkovich is miscast--his Osmond is too slimy and slippery so it is hard to see what Isabelle would see in him. AR would have brought the film to life!!
Noel <nmm@episcopalhighschool.orgfoo>
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/24/97 at 23:07:53
Hi everyone! How would you guys like to get together with the folks at The Republic of Pemberley for a group read of "The Moon and Sixpence" some time in the future? As Barbara mentioned in an earlier post, it has been suggested by Amy that our two sites get together and I, for one, think it's a great idea. And you can even read the novel from Barbara's Literary Companion page if you like. If there's enough interest, it'll be put on the group read schedule. So what say you? Let me have some feedback. If you'd like to read more about it, check out the Pemberley Library & Reading Room.
Pam: Your very welcome! Glad you liked it. :-)

Suzanne K. <skurtz@cvtv.netfoo>
Hallettsville, TX USA - 07/24/97 at 22:20:09
Pam: the Venice Film Festival is 27/8 6/9: 11 days and a lot of films. Luckily films on competition are only 18 and as everybody knows by now, Winter Guest is in this smaller number. Just a question: every time I try to reach the old Guestbooks now in the Zip format I get Fred Egads instead. Very annoying indeed! Anyone else with the same problem? Any idea how to avoid "egads" .... BTW what are those "egads"? Thank you, you are such a wonderful group of people, I like you soooo much! Unfortunately my english is not good enough to express my joy in finding - many months ago - this magnificent site. A very special thanks to Karina, una donna molto molto in gamba! Translation- more or less: a very very clever woman, and very generous too. Ciao, Livia.
Livia S.
Italy - 07/24/97 at 20:30:10
Egads, Kate, I hope they didn't dry clean it!
They also have Liam's (sigh) kilt for one grand. Or should I say from one grand. . .
Found the quote from the S&S Diaries:

(hope I get a cell with a PC and lots of books if I do time for copyright infringement)
"Alan R., who has clepped himself Colonel Weathercover ('weathercover' menas interior scenes that are scheduled to be shot if the weather is not right for the scheduled exterior scenes) and spent days on end trying to amuse himself in the hotel, is in to work finally and looking a tad bewildered. 'I'm not as well as I would like to be' he responded to my enquiry.
"Greg very energetic this morning.
"Morag: 'Nothing a syringe of horse sedative won't cure'
"Overhead later:
"Kate: 'Oh God, my knickers have gone up my a--e'
"Alan: 'Ah. Feminine mystique strikes again'"
I say Rickman's OK.

Emma
USA - 07/24/97 at 19:13:10
FYI, If anyone wants to order (by credit card) from Reel Clothes, their phone number is (818) 508-7762. They "ship by slow boat to keep postage costs down."
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/24/97 at 18:02:58
R. Fahey, Thanks for the tip on Reel Clothes. I just bought the shirt that Rasputin was shot in!!! I can't believe that I did it, but Yippee Kai Yay!!!!
Kate
Alexandria, USA - 07/24/97 at 17:29:46
Hey R. Faey! Thanks for writing to Current Biography. I did just that months ago. I have been waiting rather impatiently ever since. Maybe you have pushed them into action!
LindaB <lbow@interlog.comfoo>
Scarborough, Ont Canada - 07/24/97 at 16:18:35
Re: Collectibles. For what it's worth, props and wardrobe from RASPUTIN are allegedly available via Web site http://www.reelclothes.com/instock.htm .
R.Faey
USA - 07/24/97 at 15:54:19
Re: Gynecology. AR can handle it. He's unfazed by Sharman's plays [WHEN I WAS A GIRL I USED TO SCREAM AND SHOUT] and Ruby's humor. Emma's and Kate's S&S remarks show just how comfortable women are around him.
R.Faey
USA - 07/24/97 at 15:52:37
Re: Paton. I wrote CURRENT BIOGRAPHY (US reference book widely found in N.American libraries) inviting staff to look beyond Paton if/when compiling an AR profile. Referred them to Karina/KelClancy Web sites for additional information......
R.Faey
USA - 07/24/97 at 15:49:10
Greetings all. Am just back from vacation and trying to get caught up with things. While in England I picked up the Paton book so it was fun to read all your criticisms. Even though I've not finished it yet, I agree with your comments, but still think it was worth buying. I got the last one on the shelf in Harrod's!! Today is my first day back at work, and driving in I had those sinking feelings the closer I got to the office, but the following (and I SWEAR this is true) cheered me up. The car in front of me had a bumper sticker which read, "Need help? Call your SHERIFF" when I got to the parking garage I did a double take at this bumper sticker, "Florida Sheriffs, youth camps." Two Sheriff sitings in one day! What does this mean? Can you imagine what George would get up to at a "youth camp?" (Have fun with that one next door in FOF!)
Joan
L.I., NY USA - 07/24/97 at 15:10:03
Renie, thanks for the tips. I knew about using the back function (which I have, on occasion, used) but I tend to load only what I haven't yet read, so I would have to reload to find out what was posted several days earlier and I think that would wipe out what I had written in ADD. Whew. At my last job, a sentence that long would have gotten me demerits! I understand that the process of putting a film together is a logistical nightmare, but if an agent has seen requests for a certain role and a screenplay crosses his desk, it might be more noticed. Who knows? Just thinking "out loud," as it were.
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/24/97 at 14:06:21
Melissa-I for one don't have anything against Demi Moore (except her WORK - much like M. Paton.) Kate, ;-) I seconded the Scarlet P. project, which is emphatically *not* in the works anywhere Ellen (but has possiblities for next door). Kate, who knows? Writing might help make it happen. To be realistic, though, lining up the director, screen talent, *money*, etc. is so difficult. If an actor who can "open" a film (i.e. box office draw sufficient to cover the star's salary and much of the studio's production costs) has a driven interest in playing a particular part , then people may fall in behind the project. Or, if a recognized director, or especially a writer/director, has always desired to do a certain classic work, he/she might be able to make it happen. There is always the small budget or "indie" film, put together as a labour of love on a shoestring, but somewhere someone has to be driven (and get others to be driven) to get the film made. (Of course, these are generalizations.) Has doing the Scarlet P. ever crossed his mind? Who knows? What would you give to be inside his mind for a minute?

BTW, during a post, you can click on the back button to see the guestbook, then click forward to continue your comments without losing them. You can also click on return to the guestbook, then click on add, and your unfinished comments should still be there (at least mine are) until you finish your post (or click on reset.) Hope this helps.

Eva-A film without Kenneth Branagh's voice is travesty enough; TMD without AR's voice is apocalyptic. You are invited to my house anytime to hear him say, "Talking *was* the major component," or "Warming my lips."
Renie <reniept@hotmail.comfoo>
CA, USA - 07/24/97 at 13:33:00


The article in the Observer about the Almeida Theatre that Eva mentioned recently is definitely worth looking for. Though you'd never know from its headline, "Theatre as Therapy. Shy? Under-appreciated? Recovering from major surgery? Then join this lot at the Betty Ford Clinic for troubled luvvies" the piece by James Christopher is in fact a very admiring look at the Almeida, which he calls "the biggest theatrical success story of the decade." He goes on to say "On press nights, the tabloid paparazzi are starting to be as much in evidence here as in the West End. With first-night audiences crammed with big names like Liam Neeson, Alan Rickman, Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Princess Margaret (a regular) and [brace yourselves, 'Maniacs...] Demi Moore, this is not surprising. One actor recalls working there before Islington gentrification had started: "...the building was really a little anachronism in a nowhere patch of land. For one performance, they had to rent the flat next door to use as a dressing room. The actors ran down the street, got changed and came back for the next scene. The place was surrounded by junk shops." Their production of Shaw's Heartbreak House (listing us in its program) opening in August will be directed by playwright David Hare. The article ran in the 20 July issue, in The Review, and took up all of page 7. I've tried to get to the electronic archives at www.observer.co.uk but so far I haven't been able to, but best of luck to anyone else who tries.
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/24/97 at 10:52:37
Renie, the wink went without typing.

Ellen, I'm sorry but the "Scarlet Pimpernel project" was exclusively wishful thinking on my part supported by another kind poster (I forgot to look up who before I got in to the ADD function.) As much as it pains me to have to tell you this, there is no "project" in the works (at least none to my knowledge). Maybe we should start sending our suggestions to his agent. Would it help or hurt, do you suppose?
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/24/97 at 09:25:56


Maxine, thank you. Just the points I wanted to make, i.e., the director's role, JB's twitching and *over-playing*, Alan's deliberate and thought-out portrayal of George of Nottingham (sexy debil). Now that I've stopped fuming I will say I really like JB from way back when he played Freddie in My Fair Lady. (Talk about fuming and stuttering...don't you love Nigel Hawthorne in Barchester Chronicles!!)
Still Pissed...But Rational
USA - 07/24/97 at 09:15:49
MAXINE- Very well said indeed! I am also a fan of JB's Sherlock Holmes. I guess that's why I was so dissapointed to see that he had said those unkind things about Alan. I do think however, after reading several reviews, that JB stood alone in his thoughts about the Sheriff.
Michele <FMerc58402foo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/24/97 at 07:46:01
you know, one reason I really enjoy coming here, is the intelligent company.

Let me explain further - I have a lovely picture of Col Brandon as my wallpaper on the PC, and when turning my computer on, my husband saw the picture, and said to the boys "oh, no, not that dork again" (obviously he is extremely jealous that I have pictures of AR everywhere, and not of him!!

At least when I'm talking to you all, I know you'll say something a bit more sensible!
Claudia <clods@xtra.co.nzfoo>
Whitby, - 07/24/97 at 04:34:42


Tonight I will see Truly, Madly Deeply on German television in a version dubbed into German. Why am I doing this? I have discovered earlier that some actors looses more than others when dubbed. I once saw Much Ado about Nothing on Italian television. The result was that Keuno Reeves was as good or as bad in Italian as he normally is, whereas Kenneth Branagh died without his own voice. As films are dubbed in many countries this offers some kind of explanation why some not very good actors are great international stats The Bruces, the Slys and even Kevin Costner. Whatever appeal they have I is not in their voice or their handling of the text. I let you tomorrow how AR registrer without that voice
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/24/97 at 03:48:37
Hello, again! Nice to see so many of you stopping by Pemberley. I am the only Barbara over there, so if you see my name on the boards--that's me. To respond to a few of your comments: I read another interview with Kevin Reynolds in which he said that he thought AR was the best thin about RHPoT, and also that Mr. Rickman came up with many of the funniest lines himself (it didn't specify, but I'm thinking "Call off Christmas! etc.") About this new Les Liasons Dangereuses--is there actually talk that this will be remade, or are you all wishing it would be? I think I missed the start of that thread. A third point is about Pemberley. Those of you who visit may have seen that there is a proposal for this group and that community to do a group read of The Moon and Sixpence. Right now it is just in the stage of seeing how much interest there is. You can read about it on the Pemberley Library board, linked from the main page. Hope to talk to some of you here or there!
Barbara <bplaroch@planet.eon.netfoo>
Edmonton, Canada - 07/24/97 at 01:51:10
As a fan of the Jeremy Brett-Sherlock Holmes series, of which I have most of the episodes, what I enjoyed was JB's over the top portrayal of SH! I suppose I wondered if JB was as eccentric. By these comments to(?)/about AR do seem to prove that. Well, those comments about AR seemed to me like "the pot calling the kettle black". Besides, JB should have known how much a director controls a movie... that AR's acting, if not wholly approved by the director, would have been stopped at once! Look what Ang Lee did! Oh well. We love you Alan!
Maxine <mrose@pawneenet.comfoo>
Greeley , CO USA - 07/23/97 at 23:56:57
I was wondering if anyone has any information about a previously mentioned Scarlett Pimpernel project? And to Jean in Leeds, my assistant and friend Jill will be in Leeds next week, have you found anyone to copy CL into PAL yet over there? I think we can find one here if you want Jill to stop by and say hello and carry it back here I'll try and get it transformed for you. Let me know soon, she leaves Wednesday. She's going to get a copy of THAT BOOK for me.. I guess I better read it before I go defending her..does anyone have any other suggestions of what Jill should bring back with her? Besides the obvious..
Ellen
USA - 07/23/97 at 23:17:44
Re: The Sheriff - Of course, I meant to wink at Kate. AR's role is the only role to watch (except for the Connery bit at the end.) There is so much to fast forward in both RHPOT and DH. I wish they'd make a Rickmaniac's version of them - and of S&S with the trout tickling, etc...but, of course (sigh) wishing belongs next door.
Renie <reniept@hotmail.comfoo>
CA, USA - 07/23/97 at 22:05:50
Re: the Sheriff
There's an article on Kevin Reynolds in the Aug. issue of Movieline (with Juliette Binoche on the cover) in which Reynolds says nice things about Alan. He only mentions Alan briefly but implies that his portrayal of the Sheriff is what saved the movie. (which is true :-)
He says he cringed during RHPoT screenings but the audience reaction was fabulous. About the Sheriff he says, "Alan Rickman [was] just fantastic. Originally in the script, the sheriff was this Darth Vader character, and as I started rewriting, he came out this fiendishly outrageous guy that Alan really latched on to. We felt, let's take a chance, maybe go over the top here and at least not bore people. ...Alan came to the forefront..."
Interesting, by the way, that Reynolds says he rewrote the Sheriff's part. In the Paton bio (which we know is full of mistakes), it says Alan and Peter Barnes sat in the British Museum coffee shop rewriting the sheriff's part to punch it up a bit. I think the portrayal shows Alan's fabulous sense of humour.

Deb <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/23/97 at 20:49:30
I think the whole idea behind the Sheriff was to be as campy as possible. This "Overacting" was exactly what the part needed.
Michele <FMerc58402foo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/23/97 at 19:50:23
Kate-Sure that isn't your fondness for George speaking?
So since AR isn't speaking just yet or in Venice, where is he?

Renie
Hoping TWG is loved as much as MC was, - 07/23/97 at 19:37:44
One wonders whether Mr. Brett has ever hear the term "comic relief?" If ever a movie needed it, RH:PoDweebs did!!!
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/23/97 at 17:37:58
Ooops! Yippie Kai Yay :-)
D.
- 07/23/97 at 17:25:00
Yesyesyesyes! I finally found THE Die Hard with the behind-the-scenes featurette. Boy, Pam, you weren't kidding -- that's a very short interview with AR but great anyway. I can't believe how young and thin he looks! Marni, thanks so much for the info!
This means that I am now looking for a good home for the letterbox version of Die Hard that doesn't include the extra Alan bits. If anybody out there knows of someone who might like it and doesn't care about the extras, E-mail me.
Yippie Kay Yay, y'all! :-)

Deb <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/23/97 at 17:19:53
Thanks, Julia. I don't understand it when AR is accused of over-acting and scene-stealing. One implies an exaggerated, out-of-control, unskilled approach and the other smacks of calculation and cageness. AR plays The Sheriff in a way befitting that ill-conceived movie. He *stole* DIE HARD because he was the only actor in the film! I'm so angry right now I can't discuss this rationally. Later.
Royally Pissed Now
USA - 07/23/97 at 16:46:57
JBrett's comment contrasts with an interview Raul Julia gave on playing Gomes (my hero!). When they asked RJ why Gomes, after Shakespeare and all that, he said it's good to get a part where you can let it all rip. If you can't "let it rip" with such a part, you can't have fun. Too bad JB and RJ are both gone.
Emma
USA - 07/23/97 at 16:16:51
While we're on the topic of character assassination, I want to rush to the defense of Emma Thompson and her S&S diary, which I for one relished. In addition to the aforementioned gynecological comment, her book includes hilarious entries (no, really) about flatulence, constipation, vomit, and in one instance, piddling on herself. Julia, there must be a public library in southern New England that has a copy of the book; you'll have to read her ovulation quip in context. She can do no wrong in my book, and besides, we have to remember that it's Rush Limbaugh who's the Big Fat Idiot.
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/23/97 at 16:16:09
On the S&S Diaries - how about when Kate Winslet tells AR that her "knickers have gone up her arse again"!
Jane <janeo@smartnfinal.comfoo>
Los Angeles, CA USA - 07/23/97 at 15:33:51
In my mad (both meanings) rush to get you the quote, I forgot to put the address. http://charon.ucsd.edu:80/kli/HolmesEG/anglofile2.html I'm sorry there's no link, I'm just not that technologically advanced. In fact, it"s awonder I'm here at all! (I could be just a figment of your imaginations...)
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/23/97 at 15:28:22
I have the JB quote right here. ""...and I'm afraid AR as the Sheriff is appalling. I said to him,"Now I know you're playing a villain, love, I know you're trying to register, I know youre trying to get a better part for the next one, but if you're overacting, its disgraceful. ...I think he's a disgrace. He's a very good actor too, which makes it worse. He was brilliant onstage in LLD. Why he's done this?- it must be desperation or something."
julia AKA also pissed off
wrentham, USA - 07/23/97 at 15:21:03
Would somebody tell me, "WHAT DID JEREMY BRETT SAY ABOUT AR??" (Sorry to shout but I'm desperate).
Pissed Off Already
USA - 07/23/97 at 14:54:08
Well, I'm out of it for a little while and it takes me forever to get through the guest book! It's absolutely fascinating, all the intelligent conversation and debate that this site sees. To Gilda: I still haven't finished the script yet, things have been wild here. Wonderful insights about the Paton book which I have yet to get. To Annette: The book IS coming, (I swear!) but the stupid post office put a crimp in my plans and I haven't gotten back. To Suzanne K: Thank you SO much for the card, how absolutely sweet! To all Rickmaniacs in the NY area: Were you as depressed as I was when they pre-empted TMD on PBS on Saturday??? And that was supposed to be my birthday celebration!! Anyway, when exactly is the Venice Film Festival? Cheers! Pam (the other Pam has the LB DH, not me!)
Pam <Bagdzinski@Worldnet.att.netfoo>
NJ USA - 07/23/97 at 14:42:42
Emma- ovulated, eh? Now, of all the things anyone could have said to AR, she chose to tell him that she's just ovulated. If I wanted to be really PC, I would say that she is, um, open. But I'm not PC, so I'll say what I think. What A Complete And Utter Idiot!!! OK, I'm over that.Now... I am spending my summer reading the classics, and yesterday I finished reading the Vicar of Wakefield. Besides the fact that its very Austen, I think it would make a good movie. And AR would be good for the role of Mr. Burchell/Sir William Thornhill. Let me know what y'all think!
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/23/97 at 14:39:12
Update: The Tees go to the printer on Friday for the first printing. This means that if you haven't yet sent your size selection (by email)...now would be the time. If you are one of those who had difficulty accessing the "Tee Page"...let me know! Thanks for the recent notes, mail, etc. Anyone NOT get an order form that wanted one? Again...the web page is running. TMD
Teri <fleasoap@mail.cvn.netfoo>
Gettysburg, Pa USA - 07/23/97 at 14:30:20
The flap over the Patton book brought to mind some of the book group meeetings I go to. A particularly interesting one had suburban matrons in Clarks shoes almost coming to fisticuffs onver, of all things, Middlemarch! At least "we returned unwounded", as Brandon said.
I gave up temporarily on lifting the heavy William Morris bio and read the S&S diaries. Highly recomend it to all! The Oscar winning script and the introduction are terrific, and the diary itself is entertaining, breezy, candid, and sometimes very funny. Lots of good anecdotes. A must for cinema lovers (and on sale for $5 at B&N).
There's also enough AR to satisfy this Rickmaniac:
"Noon. Finish scene with Alan.
"Me: 'Oh! I've just ovulated.' "Alan (long pause): 'Thank you for that'"(p. 270)

Emma
USA - 07/23/97 at 14:13:22
Re: The DH entrance: I don't think it's a coincidence that he keeps his expressive h**ds in his pockets there either; he knows that it adds to the mystique of his veiled character. When he turns on his heel and strides towrds the camera, all in black...sorry, I'll just go next door now.
Renie <reniept@hotmail.comfoo>
CA, USA - 07/23/97 at 13:54:34
Hi, Gail! Long time, no see. I know what you mean about the entrance (bear in mind that can be pronounced two ways--grin) in DH. The way they part to let him through, etc. I remember speaking with a friend about it, and she said her instantaneous reaction to the entrance, the very *first* time she saw it, was "What an intimidator." And that was only at the beginning of her first viewing!
Mary Anne
USA - 07/23/97 at 10:21:39
I'd like to see the TV series Thompson mentioned by Lindsay Doran in her charming introduction to Emma Thompson's S&S book. Does anyone know if it's available on video in any format?
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/23/97 at 10:10:02
I have a confession, folks. I DID see the Liaisons Dangereuses in London when AR was in it, and have to admit that I found him a bit intriguing, but not mind-blowing. It was the entrance in Die Hard that did it for me. (I will now duck the assorted objects being thrown in my direction!) I hardly think that Di Caprio would be considered for the role of Valmont in any possible new film - more likely for the youthful suitor of the ingenue - so we could still lobby for AR as Valmont. Keep writing, you are a wonderful bunch! Who is going to organize the first Rickmaniacs' conference?!
Gail <grayment@istar.cafoo>
Toronto, Canada - 07/23/97 at 10:06:18
Having now actually read the Empire Magazine instead of just browsing I can tell that there is one more mentioning of AR in relation to an article on extras. A person sharing his experience as an extra on Michael Collins, name AR as the star most admired by the extras who was all impressed with his performance and resemblance to De Valera.
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/23/97 at 09:36:16
Mari--green with envy over you having seen AR in LLD. I have a copy of the novel and a copy of Hampton's play, and as I read them I can just *hear* the intonation that AR would give certain lines. His style is perfect for such "conflicted" scenes as the moment in which Valmont decides he can't (at the moment, anyway) take such base advantage of Madame de Tourvel: "I had her, and I let go. Can you imagine? I took pity on her . . . I was . . . moved." I'm with the rest: AR for the next version, or no one.
Mary Anne
USA - 07/23/97 at 09:11:09
On the topic of seeing plays a heartbeat too late, I was in London in 1989 (I think) and asked around about the hottest play to see (I saw several). LLD was highly recommended, although I was warned that it wasn't as good as the production with AR. Although AR had left the cast, he was still selling tickets to the play that "was once great" because he was in it. Of course I went, thinking who is this AR anyway? Must be some local boy. I still have the playbill, which does not mention him (shouldn't he have left some kind of skid marks?) Needless to say, I was not terribly impressed by the play without him.
susan
USA - 07/23/97 at 09:06:30
Lucky Lucky you to have LLD several times. The closest I came to a live performance was Love Labours Lost, after AR left the production. But it was a great performance by the Royal Shakespeare Company. 5 years later my sister still claimed whenever we went to a play. It is not as good as the one we saw in London! I then happened to read an article in the Guardian where Michael Billington said, that he considered this particular production of Loves Labours Lost to be one of the three best British productions after World War II. I also managed to find the Bruce Villis biography yesterday. There are three references to AR, the mysterious and superb British actor, as he is called in the book. The August issue of British Empire includes a question on Rasputin and a nice small colour photo of the "show-stealing" Rasputin himself.
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/23/97 at 03:21:33
Eva--I'm with you...AR plays Valmont or NO ONE plays Valmont. I was very fortunate to have a friend at the theatre who generously allowed me, during the run of "Les Liaisons Dangereuses," to stand in the back whenever I wanted. I have rarely seen an actor of such intelligence locked in a duel to the depths as Rickman was with Valmont. The only other actor/role that comes to mind is Klaus Maria Brandauer in the film version of "Colonel Redl". Rickman brought facets to the role that Malkovich or Firth never dreamed of--and the thought of DeCaprio sends me running...out of the theatre. I've often wished I could download from my memory that production for friends who didn't see it. An astonishing piece of work on any night (and by the entire cast), but even more amazing to see it evolve night to night.
Mari
USA - 07/23/97 at 01:33:28
Just a note of interest to any Science Fiction fans. Lois McMaster Bujold, when asked who she would cast in a movie version of her "Miles Vokosigan" books, said that she always thought Alan Rickman would be the perfect Simon Illyan. For those of you who haven't read the books, Simon is the head of Imperial Security - very smart, very sardonic.
Trish Slater <ar895@freenet.carleton.cafoo>
Ottawa, On Canada - 07/23/97 at 00:31:41
Marni -- Thank you!! Now I know what to look for. Yes, we have HMV out here, by the way. Also by the way, where in Ont. are you? I'm from Burlington. :-)
Debbie <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Chilliwack, BC Canada - 07/23/97 at 00:13:15
To Debbie - I bought a letterbox copy of DH tonight that includes the extra footage. It is part of the Fox Widescreen Series. Instead of a cardboard sleeve it comes in a black plastic case and the cover has a gold/copper coloured background. There is no indication of the additional "goodies" on the cover but there was a small sticker on the outside of the plastic wrap that says what is included. I don't know where in Canada you live, but I bought it at HMV in the Oshawa Centre. I'm sure that HMV is a chain so you may be able to find it close to where you are. BTW this is the fourth copy of DH we've purchased. The first was one my son bought and his sister's friend's VCR ate it so she bought him a new one. Then last Christmas I gave my son the DH Trilogy in letterbox (no extra goodies on that version). The one I got tonight is just for me. I found it very interesting that the "Original Theatrical Trailer" included on my new tape is not in letterbox although it must have been when they made it. The bit with AR talking is very short but as has been mentioned here before, anything he does is worth watching. Hope this info is of use to you.
Marni
Ont Canada - 07/22/97 at 23:27:47
The videotape of Die Hard I picked up had a sticker on it that said letterbox edition. It has almost exactly the same write-up on the back of the box as what's on the back of the original (TV formatted) version, and it says nothing about including a trailer, interviews, previously unseen footage, or anything like that. Pam, does your letterbox copy say anything on it about having anything extra on the tape?
Debbie (alias 'frustrated') <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/22/97 at 22:13:28
Hi All! Wow miss a day and the posings really add up! Gilda, thanks for the info on the laserdisc. Plan to get one in the future, but for now I have to be content with video. ALso thanks for the web site. Will check it out as soon as I'm done here. I was not aware that RHPoT was available in Letterbox or Widescreen as they are now calling it. Nor did I know An Awfully Big Adveture was avaliable. One of my Faves! I know we've beaten the dead horse, but I have to say that Ms. Patton really put too much of her personal feelings into this bio. I did not appreciate the Hugh Grant slamming that took place at every chance. Mr. Grant is not a saint as well all know, but he is a very fine actor and I felt as though he was treated very unfairly. It was not Ms. Pattons place to judge or write a review about Mr. Grant. I wonder did Mr. Rickman tell her personally that he didn't like Hugh Grant? Ok enough. I did run across and article the other day with the late-Mr. Brett and was horrified when I read his comments about Mr. Rickman. I thought that perhaps he had a bit more class than to slam a fellow actor to the press. I was very sorry to see it. Though I still respect him for the work he did as SH.
Michele <FMerc58402@aol.comfoo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/22/97 at 19:29:13
Claudia: do be careful about those jokes with the deplorable "h" word. Believe me, I'm already in enough trouble for both of us . . . (looking nervously over shoulder)
Mary Anne
- 07/22/97 at 17:47:32
I wonder why Renie was so happy to have found a DH site!? Must be the Han(d)s.
Claudia
Um, - 07/22/97 at 16:55:58
Oh, good. I'm glad you've covered that. I can now enjoy it without feeling guilty.
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/22/97 at 15:53:29
Julia-There's no need to-the interview was covered a bit further back here, with full description of AR. (You don't think we'd let *that* go by, do you?) Robyn-I've never had a problem with amazon.com for secured transactions. [And you weren't unkind, just straightforward.]
Renie
CA, USA - 07/22/97 at 15:47:40
I've got a couple of questions:

1. I'd like to order Paton's paperback version. Which Web site is the safest when it comes to giving out a credit card number? Are there any that can be recommended in terms of safety and proper delivery?

2. Debbie: You purchased DH in letter box form and found no new footage or interview. What exactly did you purchase? A video disc? A video tape? Tell us what you purchased so we can avoid it!

3. Better yet, can someone detail which format definitely contains the new material?

4. And lastly, for a really nasty review, check out Pauline Kael's opinion of a certain actor in Heart of Darkness: "As Kurtz, Marlon Brando gives us his beached-whale imitation..."

Now talk to me about unkind!
Robyn <RobynR22@aol.comfoo>
Miami, USA - 07/22/97 at 15:44:48


Isn't Masterpiece theatre supposed to be for literary works adapted for the screen? Perhaps S&S would be a better suggestion? On another note, how much do I love Canada? My penpal sent me a tape of a Canadian talk show called Linehan ( aired on WTN). Among the stars of MC, AR is also interviewed. He's dressed immaculately as usual, in a black jacket and jean(?) shirt with sort of tan colored pants. The whole ensemble looks rather expensive, but of excellent quality. He talks about DeV, and what happens when he's allowed to watch De Valera in newsreels and such. AR squints throughout, but that may be a result of bad lighting. Gourgeous, darling, lovely, beautiful, and such. I'll try and make a transcript ASAP. I warn you all, though, it's painfully short! "But the pain, your pain... I couldn't bear that!" Yours sincerely, wasting away!
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/22/97 at 15:18:14
Gilda - Thank you, thank you for the DH site.
Renie
CA, USA - 07/22/97 at 14:50:06
Sandra! So glad to have you back but I am sorry about the delay in your medical proceedings! I will be sending a letter to Masterpiece Theatre immediately. Bravo!
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/22/97 at 14:29:23
Hey, gang! I've been out of school for a while, but I've enjoyed catching up on the guestbook. It's always very refreshing. Thanks for the order form, Teri. Michele, something you said a few days ago reminded me of the day I sat with my mouth open in front of the TV watching a short AR interview and thinking, "That's got to be the guy who played the Sheriff!" That voice just stopped the world for a minute even though the dark character was gone. I've been intrigued ever since. Danke for the media link, Gilda! And Eva, about your posting in English - - - I agree that your language is enlightening. One of my dearest working buddies from Hungary once told me that he was aware that some people laughed at his use ofEnglish but was relieved that he could add something good to their day and just tried to "take it with a bag of salt." Everyone loved him for his insight. You go girl! And now for those of us with antenna ever upward - The Music Stand (800-717-7010) offers a collection of Peter Pan songs arranged and conducted by Donald Fraser (Heigh-Ho Mozart) from four film scores for $16.95/cd. And the name of this collection? An Awfully Big Adventure. In closing, Letterbox Rules!
Debbie <alllend6@ten-nash.ten.k12.tn.usfoo>
Lakeland, TN USA - 07/22/97 at 13:36:42
Web Page is done! We worked all weekend and got it running. What an education!! So, now, you can view the graphic for the tee shirts. I also put a link on Karina's link page for easier access. We have had requests for more shirts, so, I designed a few more for the future... The "Truly, Madly, and Deeply..." fonts are not visible on the graphic (sorry). We had some trouble with the final resolution on the web page. Thanks!!! It's great hearing from you!
Teri <fleasoap@mail.cvn.netfoo>
Gettysburg, PA USA - 07/22/97 at 11:18:27
Has anyone actually spot-checked the text of the paperback Paton to see if it differs at all from that of the hardback edition? It's possible (ever the cockeyed optimist) that after making the absolute minimum of corrections--i.e., getting Rima right (no doubt with considerable prodding from Rickman's office, and maybe even his lawyers)--they caught at least some of the problems in the text and cleaned it up?
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/22/97 at 11:00:15
Hi, All! I'm back--temporarily. Stupid medical system! @%^#)(@%&!!!( cartoon curse words!) They changed my surgery date three times! Now I'm scheduled for July 31. Thanks everyone for the kind thoughts and kind words--you don't know how much it means to me!

I just found out that my company, Mobil, is co-producer of the new film "Mrs. Brown", working with the people at Masterpiece Theatre. This got me to thinkin'... Maybe a bunch of (U.S.)maniacs could politely request that Masterpiece Theatre could offer "Mesmer." If nothing else, a few letters could at least bring the film to their attention. I'm going to send one myself, with reviews enclosed. If you driven folk are interested, the address is below:

Rebecca Eaton, Executive Producer, Mobil Masterpiece Theatre; WGBH; 125 Western Ave.; Boston MA 02134

If you do, mention how much you enjoy Masterpiece Theatre, but PLEASE don't mention me! Now get out there and sic 'em!
Sandra <SYJackson@aol.comfoo>
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/22/97 at 09:31:35


This weeks Observers includes a tribute to Almeida as the haven for dysfunctional stars(!) How about changing that to good actors. Regarding the Venice competition, there are fewer English language film in the competition this year due to a more stringent selection proces. The other English American movies are Chinise Box vith Jeremy Irons Mige Figgis One Night Stand with Vesley Snipess and Nastassia Kinski. Jim McBride IRA movie The Informant with Timothy Dalton. The remaining competitors include Italian, Basque, Chinese and Indian films. Eventhough other big film will be premiered at the Festival it looks like a good launching platform for The Vinter Guest. No Bruce Villis, Madonna and Demi More or Spice Girls to hi jack the media. Last years viners was as you might remember Michael Collins? A British newspaper publisshed that someone somewhere was planning an updated version of Liasons Dangerous with Leonardo Di Caprio. Please if we are to get a thrird version Dear God, can't we get it right this time?
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/22/97 at 03:49:55
Aaaaggghhh! I picked up the letterbox edition of Die Hard today and there's no extra Alan bits! No movie trailer! No brief interview!! Aaaaaggghhh!
Debbie <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/22/97 at 01:09:57
Hello again. I've been reading with great interest all of the comments on Maureen Paton's book. I haven't read it so I am unable add anything, but I will say that all of the contributors to the discussion have made many valid points and you all have me in awe of your expressive talents.... On a different, but current, topic: Letterbox, I would like to add my praise. I did get used to the "black parts" and now find myself frustrated at what I might be missing when I watch pan and scan. I want to see EVERYTHING (sorry for shouting, but I mean it) that the director wanted to be seen.... I also read the article about RHPoT and how it was severely edited before release to boost Mr. Costner's image. Has there been any hope that we may see a Director's cut being released? Anything that increases the amount of time AR is on the screen would be "very fine"!!!
Marni
Ont Canada - 07/22/97 at 00:38:33
Gilda--I appreciate your frustration with Ms. Paton's shoddy workmanship, but I offer to you some very sage advice that has been pounded into me over the years: don't give your talent away. Ms.Paton's book is over. Your time and effort will very likely not be given the respect it deserves. These are skills you have honed and by which you make your living. Honor them. If you really must refute her hyperbole, or correct her errors, consider, at the very least, producing a document and including it here and/or on KelClancy's page...and putting your own name on it. At the very least, claim credit for your work, woman!
Mari
USA - 07/21/97 at 23:43:10
One more thing to Michele: There is a wonderful advantage to letterbox movies on *laserdisc* more than tape because those companies tend to put more footage on laserdisc. Laserdiscs also last a lot longer, are digital sound and chapterized, meaning you don't have to fast forward or rewind to get to a section. All you have to do is go to chapter whatever or remember the frame number where he is and do a search. An amazing piece of technology. I'm sure DVD will offer even more. Unfortunately, there are no pieces of extra footage for any of Alan's movies. I was convinced they would do it for S&S, but I gave in and finally bought it after waiting so long. However, there *may* be a director's cut of MC if there's call for it. Exra footage was put in for the European release. Keep your fingers crossed!
Gilda
CT USA - 07/21/97 at 23:04:31
I'm back, but on another thread (don't worry). To Michele, Debbie and Pam, and all you other Rickmaniacs here (I'd say there are a few), please check out this Die Hard Web site:
http://www.tcfhe.com/diehard/media.html
It has QuickTime movies you can download of interviews and trailers for all three Die Hard movies. Pam, maybe you can enllighten us to whether the short interview with Alan is the same as on your tape. If so, then I can rest easy.
About letterbox, I too have grown very used to it because the benefits are amazing. On ABA, you see a shot where Stella will be talking to Meredith or Bonny and O'Hara is in the background watching. In the edited, pan 'n' scan version, O'Hara is cut out. Any snippets of Alan are welcome by me!
To Ellen regarding the smoking scene: My take on that is when Hans is handed the pack of cigarettes, he recognizes it as belonging to one of his men, thus realizing who he's dealing with before McLane introduces himself. What do any of you think?

Gilda <prisAB234foo>
CT USA - 07/21/97 at 22:46:48
Hi everyone! Ooooooohhh the fur certainly was flying there for a bit wasn't it? Personally I try to avoid any publication preceeded by the word "unauthorized". Okay,because I am pretty much a self proclaimed dork when it comes to operating a computer, I have to apologize to Deb and Maxine. Thanks for the e-mail,I will be getting back to you soon because today I finally got my bearings on how to send and recieve mail.At least we can be sure of my taste in men if not my computing skills.I have to admit after reading alot of the other entries I am a little intimidated but learning alot about Mr.Rickman.The only thing I can really offer at this point is that I love his movies and in some fantasies the words "love slave" come to mind.You people are wonderful,please allow me to keep learning from you.
Skippy <barakel@msn.comfoo>
NJ USA - 07/21/97 at 21:15:44
Julia, I knew you weren't trying to censor anyone; you were just a wee bit tired of the subject. No offense taken.
To Elizabeth: Maybe the only good that comes out of my effort is that I'll be able to sleep a little better, but remember, I did make a little difference with my friend's book, who had to agree with some of my suggestions. I'd made them before and he had forgotten about them. I'm sure they wouldn't have been made had there been so many typos, but I'm still happy they were made for the sake of correctness. However, as AR does with his politics and others do for good causes, it could make a difference. Who knows? In a couple of years, Paton could release Alan Rickman, The Unauthorised Biography, UPDATED AND REVISED. With all his new projects and recognition, it would make sense. (Well, OK, I can dream, can't I?) I'd be honored if she'd accept any of our suggestions, and we'd appreciate her attention to our concerns. We all make mistakes in our life, and we should all be allowed to correct them. It's not only for us; Alan deserves better recognition than he has gotten.
And thanks, Julia, for the references to people who have crapped on Alan; I knew about the late Jeremy Brett but not the others. All I can say is, WE KNOW BETTER! pffffffthhhth!

Gilda
CT USA - 07/21/97 at 18:35:07
Melissa--No, we are not so fragile; we're just still learning how to tell when it's worthwhile to take a stand. In the case of the Paton book I don't think it is. I admire Gilda's efforts in re-editing the book for the publisher's/author's edification (they both obviously need some lessons). But having been involved in publishing as editor, writer, and cog in the production wheel, I wouldn't expect much to come of so noble a gesture. The author's been paid, the book got sold, it didn't make a big enough splash for a second edition--in short, it's history. As for being mean to Ms. Paton, she asked for it. I'm glad that we can all vent our anger against her slipshod and apparently mercenary attempt at biography here, and I hope we'll never allow such discussions to be cut short or censured. Next soapbox speaker, please step forward ...
Elizabeth
Fairfax, VA USA - 07/21/97 at 16:46:47
Melissa- no, of course we're not that fragile, just no one likes to be told that they're wrong. Gilda- Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, certainly. My remark was triggered by the fact that everyone was being so nasty. I felt that it was time, IMHO, for everyone to cool down a few degrees. BTW, if you want some really bad reviews of AR, try Macleans magasine. There's a review of MC which describes him as a giant twitchy rabbit invented by Lewis Caroll (ouch!) and another review of Mesmer that describes AR's speech like "Marlon Brando on a bad day" and goes even further to say that AR is a prima donna who is mesmerised by his own aura.(my blood boils at that snide little remark!) Or, you could try reading the Anglofile interview with Jeremy Brett, my love no longer. But that's only if you want to spoil your mood for a couple of weeks. Enjoy! (sarcasm)
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/21/97 at 15:58:37
I'm adding two additional heroic (kilted) figures to the Albert Memorial, dedicated to Gilda and Robyn for their informed commentary and substantive critique of the bio. A no-holds-barred discussion of it in this forum is long overdue, and I for one am agog with admiration for the initiative they've taken to deliver to the publisher their frustration and disappointment. What is it about women's culture that makes us so queasy in the presence of justified criticism? Are we still really all that fragile in 1997?
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/21/97 at 15:25:59
Susan, great point! However, given I'm a collector of *all* Rickman items (good and bad), I'm not too crazy about giving up my only copy; plus I don't want to waste money buying another copy to mark up, though I understand your point. Sticky wicket, isn't it? Don't want to perpetuate sales on the basis of principle, but don't want to break a copyright law. Hmmm.
To Julia, I respect your comment, however, please realize there are many of us on this list, and we should be allowed at least one time to voice an opinion (and in my case another to explain my reasons, if I may be so bold). So that's why it seems as if the subject has been dragged on. I won't say anything more about it unless asked to, and anyone who wants to discuss it further with me personally, please e-mail me. I want to talk about other fun things as well, so I hope to post them soon.
G

Gilda
CT USA - 07/21/97 at 14:58:01
Review of Hamlet by Maureen Paton, Daily Express, 16.9.92.
"That inveterate scene-stealer Alan Rickman is the Prince of Hollywood thieves. Now he takes centre stage as the Prince of Denmark and stakes his claim to be a major actor in this sell-out tour.
How appropriate that Nottingham City and University should be sponsoring this intimate production by Georgian director Robert Sturua.
It was Rickman's flamboyant Sheriff of Nottingham that so famously upstaged Kevin Costner in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Inevitably he stresses the dangerous appeal of amorality in Shakespeare's great revenge tragedy.
This is a sarcastically amusing Hamlet who can smile and smile and be a villain, taking a lesson from his wicked stepfather Claudius. For it was Rickman who created the role of the vile seducer Valmont in Les Liaisons Dangereuses.
There is a harsh erotic energy in Rickman's encounters with Julia Ford's sexually-repressed Ophelia, who is horizontal within minutes of meeting him.
And yet he plays Hamlet as a world-weary, existentialist bookworm, too dangerously fond of Geraldine McEwen, as his mother, and forced to be a hero against his will.
It is a fastidiously intelligent reading of the role that confirms Rickman as a leading talent with the power to pull in the crowds."

Jean
Leeds, UK - 07/21/97 at 14:46:39
Oh pish on the sensitivity and correctness stuff. Opinions don't always have to be nice to have value!! One who finds herself mortally offended by anything said about her on the internet needs to get a life. Besides, the reader of these pages have undoubtedly bought more copies of this book than the rest of the world combined!! However, I wouldn't be sending off "copies" of copyrighted materials to the author. Highlight the original and pass it on. You don't want to send Ms. Paton off to her solicitor in a huff!!
susan
USA - 07/21/97 at 14:37:40
Gilda, well said.
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/21/97 at 14:27:44
There's a Russian saying that says that when your ear itches, someone is talking about you. I think Ms. Paton's ears have fallen off. Let's get off this highly unpleasant and rather infuriating subject and talk about something else. I just got a letter from my penpal in Calgary Canada, and she says that when she was at a wedding in BC a short while ago, she met a movie buff who, when asked about AR, replied, "Oh, yes, I love Alan Rickman!" Besides the fact that my obsession is now justified in my penpal's eyes, I couldn't help but wonder if that movie buff was perhaps a member of the AR fan club?
julia
wrentham, MA USA - 07/21/97 at 14:20:04
To Robyn, Melissa, Noel, Kate and anyone else I may have missed, loved your responses. Robyn, I'm glad you've vented your spleen! I am imagining you flapping it about like a tablecloth in the breeze and then putting it back inside you! Hopefully, no one is reading this during lunch... I've made good on my threat: The book is copied for purposes of editing and sending my ideas to the publisher.

I warn you all: This is going to be a long post. Ellen, this is in no way an attack on you. I respect your opinion on the Paton book and how we have jumped on it. However, I feel I need to get on the soapbox for just a bit to justify my venom. From reading your past posts, I know you're a writer. I've been a newspaper reporter and have published articles in other publications, but for most of my career, I've been a copy editor. My credo is to work on copy with my red, green or brown pencil (ink, IMHO, is too conceited) 1 inch off the page, putting it on paper only when necessary. I greatly respect all authors and the time they put into their work as I hope they would me and my work.

Upon beginning my copy-edit over the weekend, I realize that the beginning does offer lots of tidbits most of us never knew, but from what I remember of the first read, the rest of the book concentrates on some things that aren't so important and on others that are geared toward a small audience. For example, the rest of us didn't have a clue what was going on regarding the Riverside project; it's like she was picking up at some point in the middle of the story. In my edit, I would cut out the gossipy stuff about Alan's rift with that associate (don't have the book in front of me; I can't remember the name), and I'd ask her to put in the contents of that flyer he passed out to people on the street. What did it say? What did his proposal for the project actually say? I think those kinds of things would give us better insight to Alan's personality and convictions. And these are not things that couldn't be easily found in someone's records; they were certainly made for the public then.

First off, Paton isn't aware of the audience she's writing to; she doesn't understand the throngs of fans out there know a lot about Alan Rickman through gathering articles and pictures. I became very interested in him from RHPOT, but I didn't follow his work much after that because he wasn't easily in the spotlight. The Internet now makes that very easy. I wanted to see TMD when it was released, but it left the theater almost as soon as it arrived. It wasn't until Rasputin was shown that I picked up my interest again. So, from March to October 1996, I became a voracious reader and collector of Rickman articles, pictures, plays he's done and their reviews, etc. I learned so much about him that when I heard about the book, I expected to have a lot of gaps filled in.

Second, Paton's editor did not have enough knowledge of the subject matter to question her on many issues. That's the problem with many editors for unsuccessful books like this one. I had the same problem with a friend's book that was recently published and had quite a few factual errors and typos in it. I reedited it after it was published, and the corrections were made for the second printing, but it all could have been avoided had the editor used his spell-checker and didn't rush through the book to make deadline. He also should have worked with an editor to check the facts. Books have a long shelf life, and authors need to have their facts straight and complete if they want to keep it on the shelf.

Third, to Paton's credit, I'm sure she contacted scores of people to write this book, and many of Alan's closest friends probably didn't participate out of respect for him and his privacy. That's why there are no interviews between Paton and Juliet Stevenson, Rima Horton, Sharman McDonald, etc. I'm sure Lindsay Duncan would have had quite a few stories about LLD to tell if she wanted to tell! But all we got were quotes from previously published articles. Now, to chastise Paton, I have scores of articles where she could have quoted some amazing stuff to enrich her book. Just check Kelclancy's page for proof, since we collected a lot of that stuff together.

There are so many problems most don't know about when it comes to publishing a work, and one of the evils in any genre is that dirty word: Money. Money can keep a work from being its required length because the publisher wants to save money on paper and printing; money can keep a writer from continuing his/her research because they can't afford it; money can turn someone's dream to create a good piece of journalism into a quick way to pay the mortgage. I don't know what Paton's or her publisher's intent was, but I feel duped and cheated out of $26. As much as I could see an effort put into it and I appreciate her revealing some things that I didn't know, I want to show her how she could have made this an extraordinary book without adding extra pages to it.

OK, end of my tirade. Again, Ellen, no disrespect to you at all.

Buh-bye, now!
Gilda

Gilda <PrisAB234@aol.comfoo>
CT USA - 07/21/97 at 14:07:04


Robyn in Miami: Please allow me to kiss the hem of your nice garment.
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/21/97 at 12:24:16
SoCal alert: Quigley Down Under is on Thursday July 24 at 8 pm and Saturday July 26 at 5 pm on Channel 5.
Jane <janeo@smartnfinal.comfoo>
Los Angeles, CCA USA - 07/21/97 at 11:35:55
One of my personal pet peeves (forgive the alliteration) is having to deal with an amateur who is in a professional position. And I (with the rest of her readers) am under no obligation to be *kind.* So long as the criticism is justified and warranted, it is acceptable to note it. I'll bet Maureen Paton is a *lovely* woman! I'm sure her parents are terribly proud of their little girl. But that doesn't change the fact that her bio on Rickman is bush league. It has nothing to do with her personally; it has to do with the poor quality of her work. Ask any critic of any art form if *kindness* enters into the equation. Fairness? Balance? Yes. Truthfulness in the criticism? Absolutely. Kindness? Nope. In criticism, no quarter is expected and none is given. I don't believe Paton is a terrible woman. I think her *book* is a terrible book. And she, while admittedly aided and abetted by others, as the author is open to that criticism.
Robyn <RobynR22@aol.comfoo>
Miami, FL USA - 07/21/97 at 10:47:33
I guess that I should have proofread that before posting it! I let my emotions carry me away. My brain (if it can be called that) works faster than my fingers do, and sometimes on a completely different wavelength...

BTW, Clods, I agree with you 100% about AR and his lady. I hope that they have a long and happy future together.
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/21/97 at 10:12:34


Primo: Livia, Molto grazia!!

Secundo: Ellen, Your sentiments do you credit. You are obviously a woman of compassion and tolerance; however, when an author goes on record (by publishing a work) she is opening herself up to criticism (in the technical sense of the word). She, of course, hopes that the criticism (the reviews) is positive and that she will make money from her efforts. The reading public is under no obligation to fulfill these desires. I do believe that the critiques of Ms. Paton's book here have tended to the personal, but we are private individuals writing for other private individuals, not professional reviewers. I think that in the context of this web site, personal opinion is an appropriate factor by which to judge Ms. Paton's writing. I believe that had she thoroughly researched her subject and stuck to the facts, even if she still portrayed Mr. Rickman in an unflattering light, she would ave been better trreated here. It seems poetically just that her book, badly-researched, badly-written, badly-edited, is a work based primarily on her own opinions and it is the opinions of her readers that, without regard to her feelings or professional standing, she received. In short, she has received no worse here than she subject her subject to, and we weren't paid for our opinions. Had Ms. Paton written with more professionalism and thought for her subject, she would have been received with less approbation whether we agreed with her conclusions or not. I don't mean this to be an attack on you, Ellen. As I said, I think highly of you for expressing concerns that we have been unkind and unfair to Ms. Paton. I agree that we have been unkind; I disagree that we have been unfair.

The soapbox is now free...
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/21/97 at 10:04:56


Ellen, I think that 99% of the critism levelled at ms Paton is justified. She is a reasonably well-known journalist for the Daily Express tabloid newspaper not known for its literary standards. Her book is badly structured and derived almost exclusively from previously published material, it offers no insight into Rickman the man and superficial judgements of his work which appear to have been derived from other critics work (in other words I doubt that she actually bothered to watch any of his filmed work and doubt even more that she has ever seen him on stage). Her obsession with his working-class roots highlights her own prejudices and she is seemingly oblivious to the fact that many, if not most, of Britain's successful actors are from humble beginnings and like Rickman don't bear it as a cross. If some-one is trying to get money for a product from me (in the U.K. the hard-back edition is Ł15.99) I would have hoped for a better researched and less politically biased piece than this - the disclaimer that it is unauthorised should be ammended to unresearched apart from the Daily Express archives. The most valid piece of critism is that is has acted as a spoiler for any genuine biographer wanting to cover one of Britain's most important actors with a volume he deserves. From the examples in this guest-book I think there are several people here who could have done a better job.
Louise
London, USA - 07/21/97 at 09:46:57
If I was to write a book on flyfishing it would help tremendously if I knew anything on flyfishing. What makes Maureen Patton weak is her lack of knowledge regarding theatre, filmand the spere of people she is trying to write. She has decided that she could overcome the hinderance of never having meet her subject. When deciding to continue the process she makes mistakes that no seririous biographer should make. When evaluation the appeal and personality of AR she builds on comments made by people who in some cases may have alterior motives (The Riverside incident) or people whos relationship with AR is almost non-existant like Christophers Biggins, who by his own admission only know AR from various receptions, and who constantly mocked by the British press as a freebie. What also belittles the book is the lack of understanding of ARs work on film and theatre. She cannot loke either before or after Les Liasons and seems totally confused by AR priorities workwise. It is almost like she consider him a failure for not taking the 100% commercial road. She is also very bent on making AR and Hugh Grant into enemies. How come then that Emma Thompson can report that they are enjoying a drink together n the bar following ARs arrival on the S&S set? All this and much more makes one wonder how much if anything can be learned from her book. She even feels that Col. Brandon is a career mistake!!
Eva
Copenhageb, Denmark - 07/21/97 at 09:39:01
I've been thinking about all your comments trashing Maureen Patton. I don't think any person should be treated this way. The woman wrote what was, argueably a project she never should have undertaken because it was unauthorized. Which also means, by the way, that we shouldn't be here. I've read all the articles posted on this and Clanceys page and I learned more from that snippit of her book posted on Clanceys page than I ever knew. (facts).. by the way he does not smoke because the habit is messey.. not because its bad for people.. But Ms Patton should not be dragged through a critics crossfire that is tinted by personal emotions. No artist deserves that. All things considered and I do mean all things.. worse could have been the result. Play nice.
Ellen
USA - 07/21/97 at 08:51:44
Jannsue-I thought the exact same thing. I think that John would have recognized the voice. One would have to be deaf not to take notice of that barritone! I also found it intresting that Jeremy Irons also fakes his accent in Die Hard 3.
Michele <FMerc58402@aol.comfoo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/21/97 at 07:16:37
Just to confirm, the photo in the p/b edition of the bio IS Rima.
Louise
London, - 07/21/97 at 04:26:14
Another Die Hard Theory. I think that he didn't recognize Hans' voice because afterwards he said he was almost fooled with his American accent. I think that he didn't know if this guy was a good guy or a bad guy. The simplest test was to give him a gun with no bullets and see if he would try and shoot him. I think a man with McClaine's experience would naturally be suspicious of any unknown factor.
Dean <deanmc@pacbell.netfoo>
San Jose, CA USA - 07/21/97 at 01:36:39
Hi,everybody! Two days ago the Press Conference for the Venice Film Festival and the announcement about Winter Guest: It is in competition for the Leone d'Oro and it is also the only English film in competition! Wow!!!I I wish to give you the address of the Mostra, www.labiennale.it Probably in a few days it will be possible to know the exact date of the projection .... now I have to go, someone is ringing the bell , bye for now, LIVIA
Livia S. <livia.ermolli@flashnet.itfoo>
Italy - 07/20/97 at 10:28:18
Hi Rickman fans My Mum just got this video of "Barchester Towers" where Alan plays Mr Slope, and he's so good, everyone must see him in this!!!!!! wilma
wilma <oasis_lover@hotmail.comfoo>
England - 07/20/97 at 09:37:32
from Premiere, UK edition, August 1997, p 93: Bruce Willis: the Unauthorised Biography. by John Parker (Virgin, Ł12.99) ...A badly proofread cuttings job from a veteran of the genre (Nicholson, Beatty, Connery and De Niro have all received the John Parker treatment), this throws up interesting titbits. But... " Funny they should use that phrase, throws up! But perhaps AR is mentioned.
Jean
Leeds, UK - 07/20/97 at 07:36:25
Maybe I'm beating this dog beyond dead again, but my impression of the scene in Die Hard where Willis meets "Hans" is simply this...After hearing THAT VOICE, no matter which accent is used, how could anyone NOT know to whom it belongs? If memory serves, Willis heard Han's voice before the encounter. If I am wrong in this, then I must assume that Willis was the supercop they intended him to be. I'm no superwoman, but I would recognize those vocal chords in a hurricane. :))
Jannsue <Jannsue@aol.comfoo>
OK USA - 07/20/97 at 00:43:56
Skippy, that comment was an answer to someone's question of what is a troll? previous posted. I wanted to answer it so the person that answered that question last time did not answer it again with her example.. and nevermind what that was..
ellen
USA - 07/19/97 at 23:04:15
Ah, the Hans smoking sceen. First of all it was used to show the moment that McLain knew that Bill was Hans. European cigarettes are much stronger than american brands and when Hans inhalled and looked at the pack and did not cough and did not comment "Hey, what the heck are these?" McLain knew..or suspected..that he was Hans. Why he said yes, could be Maxine is right, to get them back..I wondered about it too for a long time. Hey there's a scene in..did I tell you guys this already? in face off where Cages charactor does a take off on that sceen in DH when Hans says.."Please don't kill me.."
Ellen
USA - 07/19/97 at 22:53:07
After reading a bit of biography about AR, and finding he is a lot like Jamie in real life (apart from the obvious!), it is easy to realise why he never had children!!! Being a neatness freak, and paying bills on time, definately do not go with children!!!

I was also glad to see that he is with a soul mate. Someone that he has so much in common with, that they are your best friend. That is so rare,and so precious - something that is strong, even though there are millions of women dreaming about him every night!!

Good for them, I hope they continue to be as happy. I wish it could be like that for everyone.
Claudia <clods@xtra.co.nzfoo>
Whitby, NZ - 07/19/97 at 19:40:27


Debbie, The letter box version is, in my opinion the best version. Not only for the extra Alan bits, but you actually see more of the film than in the standard version. Also if you have a surround sound system hooked up to your VCR the THX sound is amazing! THough I know some people don't like the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen, after a few mins. you dont even notice them anylonger. Speaking of Die Hard, being new to this page myself, this may have already been discussed, What would have happened had Hans survived? Any ideas gang? Love to hear what you think!
Michele <FMerc58402@aol.comfoo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/19/97 at 18:43:11
Just thought I'd pass this on: One Foot On the Stage by James Roose-Evans (bio of AR's mentor, Richard Wilson) is available from British Books at American Prices (http://american.prices.com/books) for about $35 US. "See" ya later!
Debbie <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/19/97 at 15:37:22
Hi all!
Are the letterbox versions of movies really better than the regular ones? I'm feeling very tempted to get the L-B version of Die Hard after hearing about the extra Rickman bits! (However brief, every little bit is nice, right?! :-)
Is there any advantage to having the L-B versions of RHPoT or S&S, or any other AR films that are available in that format? (ie, for the cinematography, etc?)

On a different note: We have a new Rickmaniac in the making! When my sister visited me recently, I warned her that I was going to make her sit thru at least one AR film with me, but as it turned out, she asked to see DH and RHPoT because she thinks AR does a great job in those movies, and is very sexy in them as well. (She's not officially an AR fan tho' -- she thinks she's in love with Christian Slater(!) Anyway, I also showed her "the Kiss" in Mesmer and even she was blown away by it. What a guy! He's even good at making non-Rickmaniacs melt away to nothing! :-) (Sigh!)
Debbie <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/19/97 at 15:12:48


Thank you for the greeting Kate! It's nice to be noticed! In response to Die Hard in the letterbox format, I too recently picked up a copy of that as well and was thrilled with the extra Rickman bits! I must make mention here as to how I became a fan if you will all bear with me. I first saw Mr. Rickman in Die Hard and was so impressed that I actually took a class in German! I then saw Robin Hood at the drive in and couldnt beleive how attracted I was to the sheriff! I wasnt aware at the time that it was the same man as my Hans Gruber. I didnt see him again until Sense and Sensibility and was touched by his Col. Brandon. I most recently saw him in Michael Collins and have now worked my way back to such films as Closetland and Truly, Madly, Deeply. I know of his other films as well but have yet to locate them. I am as I am sure we all are, eagerly awaiting the next one!
Michele <FMerc58402@AOL.comfoo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/18/97 at 22:12:30
They're baaaacccckkkk!!
Karina <karina@fred.netfoo>
USA - 07/18/97 at 19:32:57

Guestbook Update

The Back Issues are going away briefly, probably just a few hours. They will be back as zip files, with links and instructions about what to do with them if you are unfamiliar with the format.

The current guestbook and previous month's will always be available for online viewing.

Sorry about this, but I have run out of server room and don't have the budget just now to buy additional space.
Karina <karina@fred.netfoo>
USA - 07/18/97 at 15:50:33


Great Alan Rickman stuff! I was very excited to find something on the 'Net. I'm a really big fan...glad to see I'm not alone!
Donna Batchelor <Donna.Batchelor@firstunion.comfoo>
Charlotte, NC USA - 07/18/97 at 15:34:02
The letterbox edition of Die Hard has a very brief -- VERY brief -- interview of Rickman about his character. It also includes the original theater trailer, with another line by rickman that was later cut from the movie.
pam
USA - 07/18/97 at 14:23:53
Hello friends! I haven't visited the guestbook lately; it's nice to see it's still going strong. Just wanted to alert those of you who are "completists" that I found a bargain book at a local branch of the Barnes and Noble chain called _Shakespeare in Performance_ that includes a lovely photo of AR from a production of _Troilus and Cressida_. The book itself if a bargain at $7.98 (it's an overside hardcover); it's filled with lots of information and photos, especially from notable productions of the last thirty years.
Chris Gordon <gordo003@maroon.tc.umn.edufoo>
Minneapolis, MMn USA - 07/18/97 at 11:36:45
Laurie, I sent you e-mail (just now). Let me know if it didn't come through. Anyone else that didn't receive an order form from me...let me know. When I posted the wrong e-mail address the other day, it really messed things up! I'll put up my address again in case there were more missing. My husband and I are trying to get a web page together, which is very hard for us with his job hours etc. Hopefully we'll have it together soon. I wish I had a FRACTION of Karina's know-how when it comes to that sort of thing. If you want to order a shirt, e-mail me a unisex size: small to xxxlarge. Color: white or light gray. I'll send you the rest of the info. Thanks again.
Teri <fleasoap@mail.cvn.netfoo>
Gettysburg, Pa USA - 07/18/97 at 11:36:38
I love the idea of the T-shirts! My husband knows it will become an integral part of my wardrobe. I haven't heard back with the info so maybe the responsible party can try e-mailing me.

I just bought a house so I'm off next week to move. Have fun without me, you delightful people.
Laurie <lreid@cga.cafoo>
Toronto, Canada - 07/18/97 at 10:53:40


Hi Michele from Baltimore. We agree that Mr. Rickman would make an excellent Inspector Monk (we had a discussion about that a couple of weeks ago - I still vote for Tom Baker as Inspector Pitt). Other suggestions are frequently made, so don't stop posting them and you may want to skim past postings for summer reading suggestions. This lot tends to be extremely literate and literary (and sometimes, though not often, literal) and we have had some excellent reading materials discussed here. Welcome aboard; we hope to hear from you often.

All of you, please accept my apologies in advance for going slightly off-subject (so what's new?). For those of you in the DC area, Claude Moore Colonial Farm Park in McLean, VA is having an eighteenth-century market fair this weekend. This is a working farm that raises livestock (mostly chickens and pigs) and grows apples, wheat, and tobacco. The fair is a great way to spend a couple of hours and is a good way to introduce children to American History in a way that makes it immediate for them. If you would like more information you can call the farm directly at 703-442-7557. Thanks for letting me ramble on. Love to all.
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/18/97 at 09:08:18


Now that I've vented my spleen, allow me to direct you to a proper bio. I don't know if this is available in the States, I found it in London last Christmas, but try to look into the bio of Alan's much respected mentor, Richard Wilson, the actor/director. It is by James Roose-Evans. It's entitled ONE FOOT ON THE STAGE, is published by Weidenfeld & Nicolson and cost 16.99 in pounds. And the best part is that Alan is both quoted and mentioned in passing. (ISBN #0-297-81662-4). Maybe I should send Paton a copy, so she can see how a good and proper bio reads. (Nah! She'd probably use it for scratch paper...)
Robyn <RobynR22@aol.comfoo>
Miami, USA - 07/18/97 at 08:59:41
Brava, Gilda, and like-minded readers. I read Paton's monstrosity of a book and was slightly infuriated. It is poorly reasearched (obviously this woman didn't think to access this web site), poorly written and poorly edited. Paton could have had access to Alan's myriad American and Canadian interviews, print and video, but didn't see fit to pursue THAT. Instead, she does a mediocre job of quoting British articles and videos. I was particularly angered by her description of his films - truncated to the point of unrecognizability - and her insistance on interjecting "cutesy" (read: sexist) remarks. Unlike Gilda, however, I am not gracious. I HAVE written a letter of complaint. It's 2 pages and growing. From the bad choice of pictures, poorly cropped and identified, to the lack of data on his early years and work (minimal data on the RADA years, no statements from his professors, etc.) to the lack of info on his early stage and radio work, to the disparaging attitude toward Rima, I intend to let Paton know just how shameful her book is and I urge others to do the same. I will cc: my letter to Mal Peachy, Editor Extraordinaire. This whole episode has been an angering embarrassment for those of us who looked forward to a legitimate and serious study of Alan and his work. I agree with Gilda on another point: it'll be a long time before another bio is attempted.
Robyn <RobynR22@aol.comfoo>
Miami, USA - 07/18/97 at 08:24:26
Greetings all! I used to think that maybe I was past the age of such things, but I just sent my first fan letter. Has anyone else written to Mr. Rickman? Did you get a response? I too will be traveling to London in October, though it is for a holiday rathter than teaching. It'll be my first trip over. I'm also wondering if anyone has ever read the Inspector Monk books by Anne Perry. If these were ever made into movies, Alan would be the perfect man to cast in the lead role!
Michele <FMerc58402foo>
Baltimore, MD USA - 07/18/97 at 07:13:05
Absolutely Gilda!! I don't understand why so many twits get most of the good chances in life. That book was so lacking in insight, judgement and humor. After reading the posts, I too am angry no longer resigned. I have always enjoyed biographies but good, thoughtful, sensible, respectful biographers are hard to come by. I got the feeling that MP was disappointed that there wasn't some big "scoop" to get. Nevermind that to have integrity and talent is the rarest of the rare commodity that an actor (esp. a movie/Hollywood actor)can posses. No wonder AR doesn't authorize anything or enjoy giving interviews--the press is not worthy or resposible enough! Thank you whoever (in my fury I forgot your name !) for the Shakespeare bargain book tip--foraging will take place this weekend. TMD all, Noel
Noel
USA - 07/18/97 at 00:33:51
Hello Kate in Alexandria, I'm the lucky lady going to England in October. And I will be happy to take the album to M's Daly at the Almeida Theatre. I'm going to be teaching at a seminar in Bedfordshire from Oct. 12th to the 19th, then must pay some obligatory family visits, but I will be in London on the 22nd at the latest and will be there until the 26th. So if delivery on or about the 22nd to M's Daly is OK with you all, consider it done. As we both live in Alexandria, if you E-mail me I can give you my address and we can get together over a tisane and scones to have a good AR discussion as well as my picking up the book. Let me know. Anne
Anne Harding <Ahard73977@aol.comfoo>
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/17/97 at 22:28:51
Thanks to everyone who offered explainations on that particular DH scene with the sign board and ciggs.I can now clear up alot of other baffled minds.I'm amazed at the activity that this page sees and I really enjoy reading it all.I got a copy of TMD about two years ago and bawled my eyes out at the end then I made my husband watch it and HE bawled.The one thing I have noticed about Mr.Rickman is that he appears to be shy and very humble.I'm no where near as schooled on the subject as some of you nice people so could somebody perhaps help me in my quest to find out a little more about him? I'm what you could call Rickmanly Challenged. Thanks.
Skippy <barakel@msn.com.foo>
NJ USA - 07/17/97 at 20:56:25
Hello again! This is amazing! What a great fan base Mr. Rickman has! I didnt know there were so many people out there with such good taste! I have been reading all your "reviews" of the book and must say I am in agreement with all of you. I wonder what Mr. Rickman himself thought of it. I was indeed dissapointed. I also loved the thoughts about the exchange between Hans and John in Die Hard. These were all things that I had been wondering about as well. Keep the great posts comming! Look forward to reading them!
Michele <Fmerc58402foo>
baltimore, mmd USA - 07/17/97 at 20:04:58
Andrea, "dead chuffed" doesn't translate exactly into American, but loosely translated it is "completely thrilled."
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/17/97 at 17:59:25
Hello all: I've been reading some of the old posts from when AR accepted his Emmy back in September of '96. Can someone please explain to me what "dead chuffed" means? Thanks.
Andrea
LI, NY USA - 07/17/97 at 17:41:10
I have checked the paperback Paton and she has changed the photo. The new lady looks intelligent and is small with short hair. She looks about Alan's age, too. He's in evening dress and she's wearing a low-cut dark dress with a long jacket and a necklace. She has short dark hair with a fringe. They are standing close together in the street, and AR is holding a big white folder. The caption says, "With Rima Horton, his partner."
Paperback ISBN 0-7535-0143-0, price Ł6.99.

Jean <geoff.cram@virgin.netfoo>
Leeds, UK - 07/17/97 at 16:01:23
While we're hurling invective at THAT BOOK, I have to include another of my big Paton peeves--that she's so self-referential throughout. Every chapter is peppered with these grating parenthetical asides to the reader that in effect say: "But enough about Mr. Rickman...now let's talk about ME." She even inserted her wonderful self into the l.o.n.g and belabored dissertation on the Riverside Studios flap. Swift kick in the shins to everyone at Virgin Books responsible for this debacle!
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/17/97 at 15:14:31
Bravo to Jean and Melissa regarding their comments on Maureen Paton's book. I had a problem getting my copy in the first place, and when it was finally resolved and delivered, I thought, "And this was what I was drooling for?" I had planned to photocopy the book, red-pencil it (I'm an editor by profession) and send it back to her and her publisher, but I refrained due to lack of time and patience. I also thought it very rude and condescending and maybe not the most mature thing to do. Considering all of your comments of late, my blood is boiling again, and I just may make good on my threat. My anger with it is because she had her one chance to put out something great, and she blew it--not only for herself but for everyone else. If someone else wanted to do *another* unauthorized bio on Alan, would the general public buy it? It would have to have an angle that was very different from what Maureen pursued to make it fresh. Plus, publishers might be reluctant to take on such a book for fear of low sales. They don't care that Alan is the greatest actor on earth; they'd rather publish one on a megastar who would guarantee sell-outs. The book was such a let-down. WE could have done a much better job with all the sources and references we have, wouldn't we?
Cheers, Gilda

Gilda <GildaC@aol.comfoo>
CT USA - 07/17/97 at 13:43:19
Hi friends! Haven't visited here for a while; it's nice to see that the site is flourishing. Here's a book alert: I just picked up at a local Barnes and Noble (I hate chains, but they do have the occasional treasure)one of their bargain books. It's called _Shakespeare in Performance_ and has a big photo of Kenneth Branagh as Henry V on the cover (it's an oversize hardcover). It has lots of photos from recent stage (and film) productions, including a gorgeous one of AR as Achilles in _Troilus and Cressida_ (p. 224). The book was only $7.98, definitely worth it for me, since I'm a Shakespeare fanatic. The AR pic was a bonus (I suspect there may be a few more in there as well . . .), not to mention Branagh, Ralph Fiennes, Jeremy Irons, Mark Rylance (you get the idea!).
Chris Gordon <gordo003@maroon.tc.umn.edufoo>
Minneapolis, Mn USA - 07/17/97 at 13:31:35
There has to be a special place in hell for tabloid hacks like Maureen Paton. How she convinced Christopher Hampton, Peter Barnes, and others to speak on the record about AR is beyond me, but given her manifest devil-may-care approach to accuracy and the truth, their every quote may well be fiction. The whole book is so smug and smarmy and condescending towards her subject, too. It's a shame that a better publisher and a writer with (much) higher standards didn't get this idea first.
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/17/97 at 12:08:00
Jean: You phrased everything that was wrong about the Paton book perfectly!
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/17/97 at 11:17:16
Kate and Mari, obviously the women in our families have good taste and discernment.
Jean from Leeds, thank you for the information on the Patton book. It bothers me to read her kind of editorializing on any biography, since it turns any virtue (skill, talent, had work) into a sin (name one). I appreciate the information.

Emma
USA - 07/17/97 at 11:10:28
I think I'll go play the lottery, the link works!
Emma
USA - 07/17/97 at 10:52:57
I didn't see anything on Rickman, but lately I've been browsing at British Books at American Prices, and they have terrific biographies and books on tape, by people such as Dirk Bogarde, Alec Guiness. Not that I needed to spend all my money on books, but...
Emma
USA - 07/17/97 at 10:51:06
Well said. Jean!!
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/17/97 at 08:42:17
Quote from Emma Thompson's diary as requested below:
"Sometimes Alan reminds me of the owl in Beatrix Potter's Squirrel Nutkin. If you took too many liberties with him I'm sure he'd have your tail off in a trice."

Chris <ckwible@ptd.netfoo>
NJ USA - 07/17/97 at 08:39:54
If you are just finding out about AR Maureen Paton's book is useful as it does have quite a lot of info - but be on your guard with a big pinch of salt.
It came out in England on 1.10.96 and I bought my copy at 9am. I was so excited about it, even after I'd seen the subtitle - the unauthorised biography - and read the preface where she'd asked for his co-operation then said "Tough! I'm going ahead anyway!" Ominous! Also, she's a journalist for a poor-quality paper (sensation rather than sense). Funnily enough, although she worked as a theatre critic, her comments on the films betray a lack of insight (or interest in watching properly) that amazed me. Fancy putting her name to such slipshod stuff! This alerted me to disbelieve everything she says that is unsubstantiated opinion. The more I learned about AR (mostly from Karina's and KelClancy's pages) the more indignant I felt that she merely purveyed the standard English tabloid attitude that AR, as an actor, must be narcissistic, posturing and ashamed of his background. She is keen on being "the first to reveal" all sorts of personal details (implying thy had been concealed). These almost invariably had already been revealed in at least one article well before this, sometimes by AR himself. She often shows a snobbish and narrow- minded attitude. For instance she seems to resent the fact that AR lived in public housing on a council estate yet, as a clever child, passed the scholarship entrance exam for free entry to a prestigious fee-paying grammar school where he had excellent teaching and his talents were recognised. She seems to hold his success against him.
She is unworthy of her subject. So, pinch of salt at the ready, read the book, enjoy the info, laugh at the "insights" - and look forward to the real thing.

Jean
Leeds, UK - 07/17/97 at 05:38:14
I do not think it is Ciaran Hinds for Moon & Sixpence. Variety said Jeremy Northam (another Austen hunk as well) and Irene Jacob. I suppose they are cast instead of Ralph Fiennes and Sophie Marceau who were earlier listed as cast members.
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/17/97 at 02:33:28
Emma mentioned AR as being more like Badger from "Wind in the Willows" than Eeyore. I think he could do either, but that slow drawl of his would be especially wonderful for Eeyore. However, in the screen diaries for S&S Emma Thompson compares AR to Old Brown the owl in THE TALE OF SQUIRREL NUTKIN... can anybody provide the verbatim quote? I'd hate to ruin it with a bad paraphrase. It's from the bit where she's talking about them shooting in the rain and a soaked Greg Wise bouncing up to AR to ask him how he's doing, and AR, who is standing under an enormous golf umbrella, opens one eye and intones, "I'm dry."

Anyway, I can't read NUTKIN now without imagining Alan as the owl... try reading it some time, it's a hoot. (This pun brought to you free of charge.)
Rebecca <rebeccaj@pobox.comfoo>
Stratford, ON Canada - 07/16/97 at 22:54:57


Favorite movie? Die Hard. Yeah, I know he was overshadowed by Bruce, but I still like Alan's character. Oh yes, don't want to forget the other favorite: Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. Alan, as the Sheriff, was a perfect choice.
Sushanna Sumners
Kelso, WA USA - 07/16/97 at 21:50:23
Re: Maxine's question 'How can the pic in the book NOT be Rima?' Ans. Because it isn't. The publisher screwed up. The woman in the pic is not even close. To judge for yourself check out my page. TMD,
KelClancy <KelClancy@worldnet.att.netfoo>
USA - 07/16/97 at 19:55:33
RE the question about why Hans/Bill pretended he smoked... I have always wondered if it was to get the pack (even tho empty) away from McClane because it was the pack McClane took from the dead terrorist, and I don't know if it could be any kind of evidence used against them. Also, I just don't understand how the last picture in the biography is not Rima? Can anyone enlighten me?
Maxine <mrose@pawneenet.comfoo>
Greeley, CO USA - 07/16/97 at 19:30:02
Has anyone in the UK nipped into a book shop to see if the paperback edition of the Paton bio contains an accurate photo of Rima Horton and AR?
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/16/97 at 19:09:53
Emma, you're not the only one with a Rickmaniac mom. I bought CME and my mom walked in when I was well into it. When I explained that the characters on the screen were "'Rickaman's' wife and her brother, with whom she's having an affair." Her response was "And she's married to Rickman? She must have a screw loose!"

I forgot to look at the name of the lucky lady going to London in October before I got in here. Anne? Elizabeth? Whoever it is, thank you for your generous offer. I think that yours is the perfect solution. As soon as we get things in order, I'll get the book to you. Any suggestions about an inscription (preferably something that won't cramp up Dad's hands too badly. - Renie, Dad's hands aren't as nice as ARs, but they are distinctive, quite nice, and can be seen in the movie at the visitor's center at Shiloh Battlfield. He is both "General Grant" and a country bumpkin pointing "they went thataway" in that film.) Totally off-point, but kind of fun for those of us who know him.

See you good folks tomorrow.

Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/16/97 at 16:48:08


Mari, my mom's a rickmaniac. She wanted to know "who's that man in the (DH) movie. He reminds me of Jospeh Cotten." JCotten's her BIG fave, so she's smitten.
Emma
USA - 07/16/97 at 16:11:55
In a more scientific vein, I'm wondering if there's a gene for Rickmania. I sent my niece (who strongly resembles me, much to my sister's annoyance, since she did all the hard work) a videotape copy of "RH:POT" (also known as "Robin Hood: Prince Of Dweebs" around our place, in honor of Mr. Costner's inability to sound like anything but the SoCal dude he, like, is) for her birthday. (Do not attempt to diagram that sentence.) My niece reports (and my sister confirms) that she plays the Sheriff's scenes over and over again because "He can act--and he's sooooo cool!" (She's still in single digits...just wait till the hormones kick in!) Nature or nurture? The debate continues.
Mari
USA - 07/16/97 at 13:51:03
A little poem- I shall go to my bed wondering/ And my mind shall not rest/ For it does not know for certain/ The truth/ I shall go to my grave wandering/ And the soles of my feet shall burn/ with a desire to seek what poets call the truth/ I shall write with my pen soliloquies/ And my heart shall tell my eyes what to see/ For my soul needs to reach the pinnacle/ Of truth. - thanks to Eva for the inspiration. RE-TM&S- Ciaran Hinds?!? Oh My lord. Two incredibly tall people, one whom I love, and the other whom I am scared of. Even so, isn't Mr. Hinds a wee bit too old for the part? On another note, Lola- Welcome, and I admire your determination. My friends were exactly the same, but after a while, they became quite supportive. Which part in S&S did you cry at? I cried when he brings Marianne in from the rain, and collapses. It gets me every time. Sniff.
julia
wrentham, MA USA - 07/16/97 at 13:50:32
Teri - I think the name-board is to show the "stupid" (present company excluded) audience that Hans was smart enough to be prepared just in case he needed to cover himself. Noel - Thanks, I didn't think that AR smoked because of the awkward way he holds cigarettes. I also wondered why Hans/Bill said that he did smoke when Hans isn't shown to be a smoker. Just curious...
Marni
Ont Canada - 07/16/97 at 13:07:28
Hi everyone, welcome newcomers and THANKS!!! :-) to all who have posted new info recently.

Eva, now that you've told us how to ask "How are you" (I am assuming that your posting was a plural), what is the proper response? Just curious.

Laurie, Kind Hearts and Coronets! Brilliant!!!! It's a great movie in its own right (and I adore Sir Alec), its about time for a real remake of it (I don't consider Jerry Lewis quite the thing; I'm glad that they changed the name.) and AR would be perfect!!!!

Please forgive the exclamatory tone of today's post; I do get carried away sometimes.

I remain your obedient servant,
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/16/97 at 12:51:19


Dear Noel: "Desolate and inconsolable?" Gee . . . thanks . . . Although with the next piece of wickedness I'm plotting next door, some of you may indeed strangle me at the first opportunity . . .
Mary Anne
Wiping eyes, USA - 07/16/97 at 12:44:28
Marni: I read somewhere that AR does not smoke. It was either in one of the many interviews here or on KelClancy's page or in the MP bio. Are we planning a funeral for "MaryAnne"? AR does grief and tortured anguish so well! And of course the rest of us would be desolate and inconsolable!!! Eva thanks for the Tattler tip, it is not always reliably delivered around here but I will have a search! TMD all, Noel
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/16/97 at 12:16:47
I'm raising a wee glass of Glenfiddich and offering a haggis to Jean in Leeds and Deb (somewhere in Canada) for their recent information-rich DIY posts on links to Edinburgh and Barnes.
Melissa
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/16/97 at 12:15:53
Thanks, Noel for the info - will be scanning "Premiere", etc. for more info on TM&S and TWG. Also, I agree with Laurie on the DH scene- McLean is just checking on Hans when he looks at the name board. But he doesn't quite trust Hans enough to give him a gun with bullets. I mean, if you'd been through what he'd been through, would you trust anyone?!
Rankin
Florence, SC USA - 07/16/97 at 11:37:04
Og hvordan har du det?? Just a note to say that there is a picture of AR in the new issue of Tatler.(covergirl Jennifer Anniston) It is a group picture from the BAFTA awrds with Eddie Izzard, Kate Winslet and Julie Christie.
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/16/97 at 11:09:12
I, too, look forward to Eva's posts. And I think the idea of AR in Tale of Two Cities and Scarlet Pimpernel is terrific. I'd love to see him in a remake of the comedy Kind Hearts and Coronets, playing all eight members of a family including an elderly woman.

My take on the DH scene is that McLean tries to check with the name board but Hans is too clever for him. However, McLean still takes out the bullets just in case. (Mistrustful so-and-so.)
Laurie <lreid@cga.cafoo>
Toronto, Canada - 07/16/97 at 11:05:23


Wow, in just 2 days we got enough orders for the first screen-printing!!! Thanks SO much for all the great letters . If all of you who have received order forms or anyone still interested would please email us your sizes (unisex Small to XXXlarge) and color of tee (white or light gray), we can have the printings done as soon as possible. This will also facilitate delivery. Yes, (many have asked) we CAN ship overseas, and to Canada. Marni, I think you're right about the Die Hard moment and the cigarettes! I could never figure out the name board situation. ???
Teri <fleasoap@mail.cvn.netfoo>
Gettysburg, PA USA - 07/16/97 at 10:29:56
Jean, be patient re Closetland. The BBC were going to screen it in July but it was dropped in favour of a Robert Mitchum tribute, it will probably get re-scheduled soon.
Darren
USA - 07/16/97 at 10:18:16
Just a friendly warning to Lola: "I could have killed Mary Anne for not marrying him when she had the chance . . ." In S&S, the character's name is spelled "Marianne." If you go next door, you'll see why I'm cracking up. Welcome, and congratulations on your good taste, judgment, and--yes--sense and sensibility.
Mary Anne
Grinning, USA - 07/16/97 at 09:20:53
Sorry - forgot to include address for the Edinburgh Film Festival: http://www.edfilmfest.org.uk/ email: info@edfilmfest.org.uk.
The Tubular Bells thread - A Strolling Player is Alan Rickman whose initials are A.S.P.
Could not afford the Return of the Native tapes but decided I needed them! So many people have posted how much they like the varied accents, songs etc. I ordered them yesterday and they arrived this morning! Cover to Cover, mail order 01672 562255 fax 01672 564634, Ł34.99 plus airmail of Ł12.00 to USA and Europe, Ł16.00 rest of world. Available as a boxed set in printed slipcase or library-style (video-type boxes) - same price. Must ration myself to 1 tape a day - that's 12 days - I *am* going to enjoy myself!
No such luck with Closet Land, which kind Ellen Sherman sent me. None of my local video transfer people will convert the tape, as it's copyright. I have written to the publishers to ask for authorisation as a bona fide student of AR (and I too can prove it - with my Emmy wallet pic!) If they won't agree, I'll have to pass it on - back to US/Canada - or New Zealand -do you use the same system?

Jean <geoff.cram@virgin.netfoo>
Leeds, UK - 07/16/97 at 07:43:16
At last I have managed to discover the information about the Edinburgh International Film Festival.
(Thur 21st August 1997) BAFTA Scotland Celebrity Lecture with Alan Rickman in association with the Director's Guild of Great Britain and The Scotsman. BAFTA Award winning Hollywood actor/director Alan Rickman (Die Hard, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, Truly Madly Deeply) delivers this year's lecture. He will talk with British producer/director Faynia Williams about his acting career and directorial debut The Winter Guest.
Thanks for the tip Eva. Please would you give the reference to the article you quoted: sounds interesting!

Jean <geoff.cram@virgin.netfoo>
Leeds, UK - 07/16/97 at 03:37:54
To Lola--I bid you welcome. It doesn't matter what your friends think--you're obviously a young woman with sense and sensibility far beyond your years. As for the rest of us: Ladies (and the occasional Gentleman): I give you Rickmaniacs, the next generation.
Mari
USA - 07/16/97 at 01:16:29
I am a huge fan of AR. I think he is great. My friends think I,m nuts but I don't care. The first time I saw S and S I cried so much. I could of killed MaryAnne for not marring him the first chance she got. I,m only 14 but I know a good actor when I see one. AR is the best.
Lola
Joplin, Mo USA - 07/16/97 at 00:46:20
Just an additional opinion about BW being able to recognize Hans. I agree that it's possible that BW saw Hans when he killed Takagi, but I also think that BW noticed that Hans/Bill didn't react to the foreign cigarette package, but just looked at it and then put it in his pocket. The real Bill would have made a comment, or been suspicious of BW for having foreign cigarettes. And going off on a related tangent - Does anyone know if AR smokes? Just curious because several of his characters do and he makes the comment in CL "You're not one of those anti-smoking lobbyists, are you?" We KNOW what a great actor he is, but that line was delivered with an especially sincere sneer.
Marni
Ont Canada - 07/15/97 at 23:34:24
Hi Rankin: Yes indeed "The Moon & Sixpence" is being made into a film with AR, Ciarin Hinds and Irene Jacob. Also directed by Christopher Hampton (of Les Liasons Dangereuse.) I forget who is doing the score but it all looks to be a "big deal". Don't know the release date tho. Was it Emma who posted the post (?) re. TWG release. Emma or whoever--thanks for the tidbit. Nov. is the month to wait for--unless the PBS Washington thing comes out before. Eva don't stay away too long!
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/15/97 at 21:09:17
Hi! I'm new to this page, but not a new Rickmaniac. Forgive me, but I keep seeing mention of "The Moon & Sixpence". Is this a new AR movie and are there any details on the Net? Thanks and I have been having the best time with this page! Nice to know I'm not completely abnormal, even though my husband thinks I am!
Rankin
Florence, SC USA - 07/15/97 at 19:56:19
Well, it's certainly not a current or future project, Kate, but I'd like to see AR in the Scarlet Pimpernel too - as well as playing the Count. But those thoughts probably belong next door. [And, apologies accepted! (Smiling, rubbing her chin)]
Renie <reniept@hotmail.comfoo>
CA, USA - 07/15/97 at 19:23:16
VCR Alert...NYC Area. PBS station Channel 13 in the New York area will air Truely, Madly, Deeply at 9PM on Saturday night, July 19. Avoid reading the New York Times short review it will only get you ticked.
Chris <ckwible@ptd.netfoo>
NJ USA - 07/15/97 at 17:24:58
Kate--Great idea about AR in Tale of Two Cities. I assume you mean the Sidney Carton role that Ronald Coleman did so well? And speaking of Mr. Coleman, there's another wonderful actor with a tremendous voice. Too bad he never got a chance to play Brandon in S&S (or did he? must check my Golden Retriever). BTW, my pick for the wax would be Hans--AR at his sartorial best.
Elizabeth
Fairfax, VA USA - 07/15/97 at 16:39:46
This occurred to me yesterday (Bastille Day) but the events next door evicted the thought from my feeble mind. (Renie, a THOUSAND apologies!!!) I would love to see AR in A Tale of Two Cities. What great roles for him. In fact any "dual" role would be great. Two ARs in the same film... Boy Howdie!!! I also think that he would do a great Scarlet Pimpernel. Only one AR but lots of faces.
Kate (again)
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/15/97 at 14:25:20
Hello dear friends,

Eva, dvorden har du dey (sorry, that's the closest that I can get, Ive never seen it written and if HTML does diacritical marks, I don't know how). That's the only Danish I know and now you can laugh at me! Your english is better than that of many Americans, so put your mind at ease. As for standards of beauty, I think that although in reality men's tastes do differ, their brains are "hardwired" to be much more visually stimulated than women's brains are. I am not making a judgement, just a studied and documented (by the scientific community) phenomenon. Also, the same stimulus can trigger different parts of the brain in men and women, so perceptions are necessarily different (at least in those cases). It undoubtedly stems from the biological fact that infant children can exist without a father but not without a mother (for nourishment). The fact that technology has made that biological fact obsolete has not changed the biology in question. I realize that my opinion is of no intrinsic value, but here it is nonetheless. I'm afraid that you struck on one of the threads that fascinates me (medicine in general and brain mapping in particular). Sorry for the lecture. I got carried away!!!

TMD, Kate

Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/15/97 at 14:15:09


Thanx to everyone for the words to The Sun... Very poetic. Jansue- That scene with the poetry in TMD- two thumbs way, way up! As for Liam Neeson... Eeew. The disgust I feel for him is inexpressable(?). One would think that in all the magasines he was interviewed for that just once he could mention AR. But no! He, a married man, mentions only how women swoon over him. Schindler wass the role of his life, and the rest, well, we'll see. The only movie I liked him in was Woody Allen's Husbands and Wives (he was so cute, almost as cute as AR in TMD!) Now I think he should stick to narrating, like he did for a documentary about Jerusalem, and another one about Clark Gable. But that's just my humble opinion. Of course, these documentary people could just get AR...=)
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/15/97 at 14:08:12
I agree with Isabelle re. DH. I have liked Liam Neeson in many roles but he is not as versatile or skilled an actor as AR. I was disappointed in his portrayal of MC but thought he was good in Schindler's List. I thought he was fine in Rob Roy, Nell and The Good Mother (he does well in tender roles I think.) Mde. Tussauds could choose worse! For a wax figure of AR it would have to be either the Sheriff or Hans as these are his most widely recognized roles. My vote for the Sheriff. Eva you are right on the mark with perceptions or standards of beauty for men as opposed to women. Men are missing out on so much with the current "rating standards". Women too need to band together and push out the ridiculous standards that women are held up against. Ok, I'm hopping off so the soap box is now free. I also heard that Liam is involved with Star Wars. As if one wasn't enough! TMD all, Noel
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/15/97 at 13:01:06
Although I'm not an action movie fan, I really enjoyed DH because 1- AR is in it 2- the movie remains faithful to it's simple yet effective plot (unlike Schwartzenegger movies). My take on the scene where BW gives an unloaded gun to Hans is that as a cop, BW tests Hans/Bill (I think that is the name he gave BW) to see if he can be trusted (the theory that he suspected that "Bill" was one of the terrorists readilly applies). When BW verifies Bill's name on the board, it is only an indication of how shrewd Hans is and that he came prepared before searching for and confronting McClane. Love this site.
Isabelle <SIMALIS@aol.comfoo>
New Orleans, LA USA - 07/15/97 at 11:12:17
Thank you for all your comments regarding language and Liam. Regarding Ethan Frome, I was surpriced when I learned that the story was written by Edith Wharton (Buccaneers and Age of Innocence). The suicide attempt trying to kill one self on a sleighride was too far out for me. Did you know that last year Vogue did a list of the 20 or 25 most beutifull men in the world, including Greg Wise, Rufus Sevell and Liam Neeson. They knew they was going to be in trouble be cause they did write in the article that the had not included Alan Rickman and others because the criteria was beauty not sex appeal! I also read an article stating that there is no norm for male attractiveness, like there is for women (blond, slim, big eyes). the article used Liam Neeson and Alan Rickman as examples of men 50% of women would consider attrative whereas the other 50% would find them unattractive I suppose I document the claim made.
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/15/97 at 10:40:09
Oops. If your e-mail for "Rickmaniac" tees bounced back, this one WILL work! (our address changed recently and I typed in the old one from force of habit). TMD
Teri <fleasoap@mail.cvn.netfoo>
Gettysburg, PA USA - 07/15/97 at 10:27:29
For Eva -- I am always very interested in your posts and value your opinion. I, too, thought Liam Neeson was pretty awful in MC -- but I was very impressed with Ethan Frome. His limp was excruciatingly painful to watch. I'm no critic and I am learning a lot from this page. I'd be interested to know more about your opinion of Neeson's performance in Frome.
BC
Washington, DC USA - 07/15/97 at 10:09:52
Susan: agree wholeheartedly about Neeson as Schindler--a crime against humanity that he didn't win Best Actor that year. Where did you hear he was going to be in a *Trek* movie? I thought it was a *Star Wars* film he was being considered for.
Mary Anne
USA - 07/15/97 at 09:57:33
Eva, I love your posts. You always have the freshest information. Your English is so close to perfect that the mistakes are thought-provoking. Although you are assuredly not Hungarian, I hear Eva Gabor when I read your posts. Like "vax work" instead of wax work. Or "mening" instead of "meaning." And my favorite "I shall probably go to my grave wandering.." Your errors are so poetical they seem almost intentional. Anyway, the thing about Liam Neeson is a sort of befuddled sincerity that comes across in some, but not all of his roles. His Schindler was incredible. Combining that look of intense feeling in such a large man is so appealing. But you're right, his Michael Collins missed the mark. I can't believe he is going to be in a star trek movie. But so often we project onto actors the sort of intelligence and personality that we fantasize for them, forgetting that they are just people of average (to be generous) intelligence caught up in a world of make-believe and narcissism that could warp the best of us. Before and After was a great book and a disappointing movie. I can't believe they cast Meryl Streep as the mother.
susan
USA - 07/15/97 at 09:38:59
Until Mme Tussaud's comes up with a wax Rickman, there's the Sherrif of Nottingham statue at Planet Hollywood in Washington DC. Apprently this is the statue that was used in the movie. Are lapsing into idolatry here?
Beauty's in the eye of the beholder, and I'm nuts about Liam Neeson, who's gorgeous in person, and also looks great in a kilt. Sigh.

Emma
USA - 07/15/97 at 08:41:36
Wax does not portrait finer emotions very well, so the best result will probably be the sheriff. The Edinburgh lecture will be on ARs career(!). In an article on RADA AR is quoted as being a student who hade a very clear perception of which kind of actor he wanted to be when entered the school as opposed to Johanthan Pryce. Regarding the vax work, why should anyone want a statue of Liam Neeson. Can anyone please explain the mening of Liam Neeson? IMHO he is constantly outacted by better actors, who often happen to be much better looking as well. Re. Michael Collins he is nowhere near the charm and charisma of the real MC. After seing him in Ethan Fromme and Before and After I am amassed that he continue to be cast in plum roles. I shall probably go to my grave wandering
Eva
Copenhagen, Denmark - 07/15/97 at 04:14:05
Thanks for yr fantastic website abt our favourite actor. We'll come back back often to read the articles, view the photographs and find out more about one of the most exciting actors on the planet today
Robyn and Catherine <anthonyc@speednet.com.aufoo>
Sydney, N Australia - 07/15/97 at 03:22:32
Re Madame Tussand - agree with Jane - but would make figure three sided - #1 - Brandon as Jane suggests - #2 - Sheriff of Nottingham as he "calls off Christmas" and #3 - Jamie as he sits on floor reciting Neruda's poetry -.
Jannsue <Jannsue@aol.comfoo>
OK USA - 07/15/97 at 02:22:33
From the Sunday Times, Internet Edition, July 6, 1997; an article by John Harlow, arts correspondent: "Millions of pounds of public money have been pumped into funding dozens of British films that have never been shown in any cinema. Even though some of the films feature big-name actors such as John Malkovich, ALAN RICKMAN, and Stephen Rea, the last remaining copies of many of the movies are decaying in London bank vaults, unseen by the public. . . . Most of the films are unknown to the British public because they did not have an advertising budget. These include Mesmer, the . . . story of the father of hypnosis, played by ALAN RICKMAN . . . . "
Kathi O. <elmer117@sat.netfoo>
Nederland, TX USA - 07/14/97 at 23:59:02
NEWS FLASH--Fine Line Films will begin selling the Winters Guest posters in November. Bookmark www.flf.com and keep checking for updates. I emailed them and said that since my daughter was lucky enough to meet Alan and Emma during filming, I absolutely HAD to have posters, tees, whatever for Christmas gifts. Got answer back today regarding November date. The line forms behind me! BTW-this site has good info on all the wonderful Fine Line Films, nice place to visit. Hello to all! Debbyg
Debbyg <debbyg@hotmail.comfoo>
USA - 07/14/97 at 21:44:32
After having been to Mme. Tussaud's in London and being amazed at the history and the excellence of most of the figures, I was daydreaming of having a wax statue of Alan for myself! Just kidding! Well, I knew that cloning and/or building androids are not possible yet, but they do wonderful work in wax! I would keep the air conditioning on all the time, I promise! Seriously, if they can have Mr. T there (yes, they do), they most certainly can have one of their greatest actors represented too! Maybe they have a website, and email!
Maxine <mrose@pawneenet.comfoo>
Greeley, CO USA - 07/14/97 at 21:26:25
The orders are coming in but I need to restate that the t-shirts read: "I am truly, madly and deeply...a Rickmaniac." (I didn't proofread that last message carefully) I'll return your e-mail inquiries ASAP!! Thanks!
Teri <fleasoap@cvn.netfoo>
Gettysburg, PA USA - 07/14/97 at 20:24:38
Hmmm... thought I'd check out the serious page, as things are getting a little out of hand next door - everyone is totally bonkers! Glad to see there is a little corner of sanity still in this place.
Claudia
Whitby, NZ - 07/14/97 at 19:16:16
Ya know,for as many times as I have seen Die Hard that scene throws me too.Why does Willis look up at the sign with the names on it?Does that tip him off in some way?I guess I'll have to suffer through it a few hundred more times until I figure it out.I think my next favorite roll is Rasputin,he was incredible and seriously yummy.I'm new around here ,so if that troll thing was ment for me ,I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
Skippy <barakel@msn.comfoo>
USA - 07/14/97 at 19:04:02
Re Mme. Tussaud's: Brandon, when he sees Marianne for the first time playing the piano.
Jane <janeo@smartnfinal.comfoo>
Los Angeles, CCA USA - 07/14/97 at 19:01:28
Hi! This is my second time posting here! (Well, third if you count the mistake I made the first time!) Julia, Pemberley is the Republic of Pemberley, a website for Jane Ausen devotees, and specifically those who can't get enough of of A&E's Pride and Prejudice. Like this site, it has become very much of a community, and we find we are enamoured with many of the JA film adaptations and the actors in them! There are those of us at Pemberley who love to talk, sigh, and write about AR (or Colonel Brandon) at length, so if you go there, you might want to visit the Derbyshire Writer's Guild, or Virtual Views, where we talk about movies we've seen. Here is a link to Pemberley if you are interested:http://www.pemberley.com/ Raefaella--Where are you in Italy? I've spent a lot of time there. Thanks again to all of you for this great site.
Barbara <bplaroch@planet.eon.netfoo>
Edmonton, Canada - 07/14/97 at 17:14:59
The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore "Loneliness is the coat you wear. A deep shade of blue is always there." At least i think those are the first lines. E-mail me Julia, for the rest. =)
Rebecca <rheltunen@up.netfoo>
MI USA - 07/14/97 at 17:10:50
My vote for AR in wax (sigh) would have to be Mesmer. Long hair, costumes!!!! Julia- Lonliness is the coat you wear A deep shade of blue is always there The sun ain't gonna shine anymore The moon ain't gonna shine in the sky The tears are always clouding your eyes When you're without love. Emptiness is the place you're in With no more to lose and no more to win the sun ain't.... The original song was recorded by the Walker Brothers, I don't know when but I hear it frequently on an Oldies show I listen to. The words are slightly different to what Jamie sings. Maxine - I hope you got my e-mail, if not please let me know.
Marni
Ont Canada - 07/14/97 at 14:54:41
Julia--someone (forgive me that I've forgotten whom) posted the lyrics to "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" some 6-8 weeks back, in this forum. Good luck.
Mari
USA - 07/14/97 at 14:51:57
Good news. I am taking orders for "Rickmaniac" T-shirts. They are high-quality, silk screened, gorgious portraits of Alan (I designed the graphic--You're guaranteed to love it) The T-shirts say, "I am truly, madly and deeply...a Ricmaniac". His portrait (circa "Truly, Madly, Deeply") is centered within the text. 10% of all proceeds will go to the Almeida fund. Price is $16.95 plus shipping. For details on ordering, email me. Thanks!
Teri <fleasoap@mail.cvn.netfoo>
Gettysburg, PA USA - 07/14/97 at 14:20:58
my vote is with TMD. The Mustache, and the slightly ruffled hair... OH! I only wish they could do a sound clip.Especially Jamie's imitation of Bob Dylan ( "Early one morning.." ) I can't believe he wasn't supposed to sing well in that. If that's his bad singing...Oh my. Does anyone know the words to "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore", specifically the first line? On another note, what is Pemberley, and how do I get there? I do believe I'll go and fast forward through TMD now. Good Bye!
julia
wrentham, MA USA - 07/14/97 at 14:12:19
Debbye--dang whistlin' that "can't be done in wax."

It would melt every time we came near it . . . 8-)
Mary Anne
USA - 07/14/97 at 12:46:21


Susan...I vote with Emma...and for the same reasons! That beard, that suit, that trenchcoat, that bearing, that stance, The Voice...oh, can't do that in wax. I got carried away. (Going to soak my head in a bucket of ice water now!)
Debbye
Washington, DC USA - 07/14/97 at 12:16:59
Carol...my two-cents worth--if I'm not mistaken doesn't John get a glimpse of Hans during the Takagi shooting and later when he writes down the terrorists names on his arm. I always thought he suspected him because his general appearance and manner seemed odd...European (he ain't Ellis!!!) Even his American accent is not quite right enough and he has heard Hans' voice aplenty by that time. (That voice is quite distinctive). Funny, I watched DIE HARD this weekend and I focused on that some thing. Anyway, that's what I think. Either something like that or just bad filmmaking!!!
Debbye <toby.henderson@hq.doe.govfoo>
Washington, DC USA - 07/14/97 at 12:07:41
Carol: I think it's called "artistic license"...In the action/adventure genre, details, plot etc. eventually fly out the window (along with bodies, furniture and assorted debris!) Or so it seems ie. "Face/Off"
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/14/97 at 11:51:13
Re: Mme Tussaud's, the haircut, the suit, the beard, I vote for Hans!
Emma
USA - 07/14/97 at 10:27:33
Now that I've found intelligent life on the internet ( Rickman Fans) Can someone please explain how the Bruce Willis character in "Die Hard" knows to give Hans an unloaded gun? He doesn"t know who he's dealing with yet. Is it just because he's a cop from New York and doesn't trust anyone?
Carol <Cbarb4foo>
Long Island, N.Y. USA - 07/14/97 at 10:14:32
Over the weekend I read that Madame Tussaud's is preparing wax figures of Brad Pitt (why?), Sylvester Stallone and Liam Neeson for the museum. They've doing Brad strictly from photos since there have been so many requests to put him in, and he doesn't have time to pose. Is there any way that we can start petitioning the museum to add Alan? From which movie? I'd vote for TMD as my first choice. The whole idea makes me weak at the knees. Anybody?
Susan <susan.fanning@mcmail.vanderbilt.edufoo>
Nashville, TN USA - 07/14/97 at 09:54:40
Hi! I just realized that my 9-VII-97 post got "blended" with another one that discussed M. Patton's book (which I haven't read). Is the book worth reading or not? Someone mentioned Rickman as Eeyore, but I'd rather see him do Badger of The Wind In The Willows. My guess is that Rickman's probably more like Rat or Mole in real life.
The Almeida Opera festival dates: June 29 to July 19, on as we speak. I'd love to go, but can't, and would love to see an opera featuring 111 cyclists. Le Tour de Opera?

Emma
USA - 07/14/97 at 08:50:39
Hello, everyone. Just checking in. Hope you had a good weekend. Glad to see so many Rickman fans from all over the world! (Ain't cyberspace grand!!) BTW--I posted my e-mail address incorrectly last time--(senile, you know!)--the address in this post is the correct one. Good to *see* you folks from Pemberley. LOVE your site!! Started to drop in at the Willard this Sunday just to meet and greet you! Did it come off? So good to see so many upcoming projects involving Himself. No time for drooling...gotta get some work done. Later. TMD
Debbye <toby.henderson@hq.doe.govfoo>
Washington, DC USA - 07/14/97 at 08:07:09
Hello friends new and otherwise ( the use of "old" is irrelevant here!) What a treat to have so many posts to peruse! I got TM&S--now I can't wait to dive in. And great news that the film seems to be a big production. I should think it would be for release before Feb. to contend for the Oscars. Best Actor or Best Director--why not both?! TMD all! Noel
Noel <nmm@episcopalhighschool.orgfoo>
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/13/97 at 21:06:11
I think, that Alan is one of the best actors in the world. I just love the way, he is playing evil. For instance as Hans (my favorite) or as Sherif. Best wishes.....
Lars Pedersen <Upsops@busi2.business.auc.dkfoo>
Aalborg, Denmark - 07/13/97 at 15:59:40
How wonderful that Alan can have the opportunity to work with such a brilliant friend on TM&S. Now we can all relax and know that Alan will be as wonderful as always in his role, if not better. A warm welcome to all our new swooners, drooolers, and obsessers. (bad grammar, I know) We hope to hear from you again. I was reading "the human Factor" by Graham Greene (excellent book) and I came across this lovely bit, "At moments of irritation, he had found The Warden and Barchester towers reassuring books. ... Mr. Slope would remind him of an importunate and self-righteous District Commissioner..." Howrewarding to find references to Darling Heart. You must excuse my chirpiness today, I think it's because of the M&S post. Any minute now I'll just flutter off like some fairy ...
julia
wrentham, MA USA - 07/13/97 at 13:52:04
Raffaella--Benvenuto! Obviously, Mr. Rickman translates well into many languages. Soon, no doubt, he'll be an official language of the United Nations...spoken primarily by women of excellent taste. Ciao, Polly Lingual (Sorry. Used to sign out of study hall with that one!)
Mari
USA - 07/13/97 at 04:47:51
Aside from being a mythical being that lives under bridges and eats goats, a troll is someone who surfs the net and finds web sites that have nothing to do with their interests and then they post nasty, unsettling, or silly messages. Usually they do not stick around! (which is good)..sort of like a rude internet comet..they go on through the internet galexy .. Welcome to all our new posters. Does anyone know when TM&S will go into production and where it will be filmed?
ellen
USA - 07/12/97 at 22:14:17
Marni in Ontario, Canada, would you please email me and tell me a little about those letterbox versions. I'd appreciate it.
Maxine <mrose@pawneenet.comfoo>
Greeley, CO USA - 07/12/97 at 21:34:40
My favorite AR roll is definitely Hans Gruber. Yippee Ky Yay !!#$*@!*$@& gets me all the time. I watch it every Christmas without fail. HO! HO! HO! now I have a gun!
Skippy <barakel@msn.com.foo>
USA - 07/12/97 at 13:57:52
It's great to see so many other new names in the Guestbook. I was at a concert on Thursday night. Neil Sedaka, who's in great form. He puts on a terrific show. I especially enjoyed Calendar Girl! Three thousand people singing along! I wonder if I was the only one picturing Ed. On another note (no pun intended) does anyone else share my other obsession? I am an avid movie collector and have discovered Letterbox format. I bought Always many years ago and think it was one the first in Letterbox. It's nice that so many of the newer releases are available unchanged, especially Quigley and Die Hard. Thanks Andrea for the info that TMD will be on TV. Even though I own it I will still sit and watch. Later, Marni
Marni
Ont Canada - 07/12/97 at 10:45:28
Welcome Raffaella! 'Swooning' is well understood here.
Teri
Gettysburg, Pa USA - 07/12/97 at 10:07:19
Forgive the second entry, but I was just scrolling down a few minutes ago and saw an entry for a Karlovy Film Festival. I hate to be a pill, but that article is over a year old. Alan went to the festival in *1996*. It is not relevant to '97.
Robyn <RobynR22@aol.comfoo>
Miami, USA - 07/12/97 at 08:52:02
Alan is going to deliver a BAFTA lecture sometime during the Edinburgh Festival, which is set to run from August 10 to August 24. There was no mention in the newswire of what Alan would be discussing. If I get more info, I'll post it.
Robyn <RobynR22@aol.comfoo>
Miami, USA - 07/12/97 at 08:24:26
Hi everybody! I'm Raffaella from far Italy. Oh, this page must be a dream... I've never seen so many photos of gorgeous Alan (thank you, thank you very much). In Italy I can't find anything and I'm quite frustrated. Moreover, no one here wants to hear me swooning over him. I'd love to chat with all of you! Anyway, I'm new on the net and I feel terribly clumsy. And please forgive me if I make stupid grammar mistakes. I'm looking forward to hearing from you soon. (could someone explain me what a "troll" is?)
Raffaella <rossross@busto.working.itfoo>
Italy - 07/12/97 at 07:41:49
Debbye, I know! That's the part (With Cristian) that I was cracking up on! I was trying to relax and go to sleep and there I was laughing out loud. I hope I didn't wake anyone up...but I almost wished I had, to have had someone to share it with. Priceless!
Rebecca
MI USA - 07/11/97 at 20:02:16
I was a little worried on reading what AR has done in the past, that I might have seen him at the theatre as a child and not realised it.

I noticed that he'd been in Joseph in 1975. I went to see Joseph in London twice - because I like Paul Jones so much the first time (who played Joseph). I wonder if anyone knows if AR was in the same production with Paul Jones. I'll kick myself if he was!
Claudia
Whitby, NZ - 07/11/97 at 19:28:36


Forgive me! The link to my page in the previous post seems to have something wrong with it. This one should work, however. http://www.planet.eon.net/~bplaroch/lit.html
Barbara
Edmonton, Canada - 07/11/97 at 17:30:51
Hello everyone! I have been lurking around here for a while now, but never posted yet. I first came in when one of the earlier parties was in full swing. I come to you by way of Pemberley, where, in an earlier incarnation of the Drooling Pond, AR had his own page and this link was posted. I would like to compliment Karina on a wonderful site. Through it and all of you I have learned about many films which I did not know or did not remember that AR was in. I admire his work exceedingly, and I look forward to conversing with you all. I noticed that a number of you are discussing the Moon and Sixpence. On my website I have a link to the online version of the novel for those who are curious, and also links to some of the poetry in Sense and Sensibility.
Barbara <bplaroch@planet.eon.netfoo>
Edmonton, Canada - 07/11/97 at 17:27:12
No doubt this will be old news for some of you, but I discovered this morning that Alan's friend and colleague, playwright Peter Barnes has his own web site (www.peterbarnes.com). There's a wee bit of info on "Revolutionary Witness", "Spirit of Man", and other projects on which these two have collaborated. I've put in a request for info regarding which of the Rickman-Barnes projects are available on video, audiotape, CD Rom, etc. as well as for info on upcoming projects. If I get any useful information back, I could post it here if people want.
Deb <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/11/97 at 16:55:46
To Kate in Alexandria: I am going to England in October of this Year and would be happy to take the book if you would care to entrust it to me. I had planned to go to the Almeida theatre anyway and it would be my pleasure to deliver it and save everyone the duty fees. E-Mail me directly if this is agreeable to you Anne
Anne <Ahard73977@aol.comfoo>
Alexandria , VA USA - 07/11/97 at 16:54:50
TUBULAR BELLS 2: Track 7. It is most certainly Himself, although "Master Of Ceremonies" is credited to "A Strolling Player." The album is a bit of a bust, unless you just didn't get enough tubular bells the first time and/or don't mind variations on a theme using new and better synthesizers. Still available (catalog #45041) from Reprise Records, 3300 Warner Blvd., Burbank, CA 91505.
Mari
USA - 07/11/97 at 16:12:34
New study by SF Eisenman, GAUGUIN'S SKIRT (ISBN 0500017662) has PG as a "sympathetic ethnographer" of Polynesian culture, with a "sophisticated understanding of gender," particularly its flexible boundaries. See review in the London Times, 7/10/97; it's also in US bookstores.
R.Faey
USA - 07/11/97 at 15:55:05
TM&S: Christopher Hampton (LES LIAISONS DANGEREUSES, CARRINGTON) is writing/directing. Apparent intent is to base the film more closely on Gauguin's actual life. AR is in good hands; Hampton wrote Valmont with him in mind.
R.Faey
USA - 07/11/97 at 15:49:36
On 7/10, MARIANNE LEYRER left a post, in German. Translated: "I'd very much like to obtain an autgraph or an address to request an autograph. Many thanks." Can some one of you provide that information directly to her? She's left her e-mail address. Vielen Dank. (Many thanks.) Mari
Mari
USA - 07/11/97 at 14:57:02
Sofia, not to worry! I'm glad you described why, though, since I'm one of those fools that think they need to finish a book just because they started it, and life is too short but there's soo much to read. The Fountainhead certainly doesn't sound like it's worth the time investment (isn't it 550+ pages?). Too many books, too little time.
Right now I'm reading a bio of William Morris that's to detailed you cannot read it in bed because the book physically weighs so much! Maybe I should review books by the ounce.

Emma
USA - 07/11/97 at 14:55:55
Hi everyone -- I just wanted to say, specifically to Emma, that I didn't mean to pounce on your comment yesterday in quite the way I did. I had only mentioned Rand in my first post because I didn't want to Go On And On and bore everyone to tears (see my 2d post); and when I read your response, after mulling over your interesting comments and wondering how they WOULD handle the painting at the end, I had this horrible vision of people I quite like, who can normally count on this site to suggest tentacles that are actually worthwhile, being prompted by ME to read THAT, and shuddered ... so if there was any edge to what I wrote yesterday, it was a) unintentional and b) directed only at myself.
Sofia
USA - 07/11/97 at 14:07:00
So much stuff to read since yesterday! All right let's begin. Sofia, I liked your comment and agree with you almost completely. I think Darling One will pull it off, it's just, I don't know, misgivings. I re-read the end of the book last night, and under closer inspection, Strickland, isn't that horrible. He just doesn't understand everyone's attatchment to him. I think that somewhere at the bottom of his heart, he felt an obligation of love to let Ata stay with him. She'd done so much for him... You know what other actors would be really good for this role? Sir Ian McKellen (he's done asshole artist with strong woman before, but still) and Donald Sutherland (he's just so good at brusqueness.) I was reading one of the articles on KelClancy's page yesterday, and came across "Rickman looked like he'd be more comfortable someplace else, possibly spending six months quarantine on a South Sea atoll" Some people are just psychic, what can I say. I'm still getting over the death scene in TM&S. How horrible. And to make it worse, I'm listening to Cello suites. When will I learn! Sniff, Sob.
julia
wrentham, USA - 07/11/97 at 13:37:46
Here's a book to intrigue our many voracious readers as well as lovers of the Rickman ROTN, S&S and the Barchester adaptation: What Jane Austen ATE and Charles Dickens KNEW: From Fox Hunting to Whist--the Facts of Daily Life in 19th-Century England by Daniel Pool (a Touchstone paperback, 1993). This should keep us occupied at least until our interests branch out to include Seasonal Affective Disorder in Scottish seaside towns, George Washington's role in the American Revolution, and the life of Gauguin.
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/11/97 at 10:41:28
Hi, Cassandra. Just wanted to greet the person who has been killing me over at Pemberley in such delectably heartless, lingering, excruciating ways. And to tell you to keep it up ; you're doing great. (grin) Glad to see such cordial diplomatic relations between Kingdom of Rickmania and Republic of Pemberley.
Mary Anne
USA - 07/11/97 at 09:40:03
Debbye, as a Bullwinkle, and Wallace & Gromit fan (Alec Guiness likes them, too), who's in deep denial of her age (who, me?), I wouldn't blush at immature myself.
One thing about Jimmy Stewart and all the greats, what is most difficult at any skill, IMHO (I've been very full of IMHO lately, have I) is to make it appear effortless. I'll go rent the Philadelphia Story again.

Emma
USA - 07/11/97 at 08:52:49
Oh, Cassandra...I started reading your work this week! I could *hear* your writing. Good tone and right in the vein of S&S. Good to *see* you over here. Noel, count my vote as a "yay" to the book and the collective inscription. Great Idea. Kate, I've posted my e-mail and I'll send you my phone number. Looks like TWG is drawing nearer and I, too, hope it plays at the Uptown. It will be grand to put faces on these posts! Sophie and Sandra...I echo Noel's comments. Really appreciated your thoughts. (I don't quite understand all of it because I've never read either book and the comment about the two questbooks, I must admit, escapes me also...but I'm willing to listen.) I dreaded reading the book this morning...feared something ugly might surface...so glad I was wrong! Rebecca, I don't see how Alan got through the part where Christian tells the Grandfer and the rest of the Heath men that he is the one man on earth that no woman would ever marry, without cracking up. Talk about funny! Oh, and Emma...can't be young. At my age, it's immature! (Ha!) On a more somber note--spent the weekend hosting a Jimmy Stewart Film Festival. Goodbye, Jimmy...and thanks for being a great actor and an even better person. In one of the very early posts someone compared Alan with JImmy--not acting styles, of course, but integrity and honesty. Got go earn my living now. Love 'til Niagra Falls
Debbye <toby.henderson@doe.hq.govfoo>
Washington, DC USA - 07/11/97 at 08:11:01
Internet Movie Data Base has added a new film to AR's filmography. 'Lumiere and Co.' - collection of minute films (50 secs) each by various directors from James Ivory to Spike Lee as testament to Lumieres' original film process. Apparently John Boormann showed up on the set of 'Michael Collins' and the rest 'as they say' is history. Has anyone seen it?
Stephanie <fewings@satech.net.aufoo>
Adelaide, Australia - 07/11/97 at 07:44:10
Hi all, been just lurking lately. Please don't throw virtual compost but I enjoyed reading The Fountainhead. Didn't say it was great literature or that Rand and Maugham should be in the same sentence but I did enjoy the book. Ok, there's diversity!

I too just finished M&S. I'm so anxious to see the glimpse of something more, in a character one would otherwise despise, that AR always manages to suggest. In my mind's eye AR is perfect. Strickland is not cruel, merely totally self absorbed and totally involved in his inner search and struggle. It's as if life, the need for sex, illness, the needs of others are irritating intrusions.

I'm off to the ocean for a week and will miss my daily visit here, look forward to catching up when I return.

tmd, Dana
Dana <strom@methow.comfoo>
Twisp, WA USA - 07/10/97 at 23:20:38


According to WebFilm at:
http://home/dti.net/egcarter/rel97.htm#next
The Winter Guest will be released in NYC on December 19.

Chris <ckwible@ptd.netfoo>
NJ USA - 07/10/97 at 22:34:23
This is kind of off the mark but speaking of the translating of lit. into film...Has anyone read Margaret Atwood's excellent book "Grace Marks"? AR would be perfect as Grace's employer Thomas Kinnear. Just another ripple upon the pond of literary suggestions! Perhaps if we do send a little something to Breda we could write a collective inscription? Of course with all the talent here, poor Kate's Father's hand will cramp up! Hi Cassandra it is good to see you over here as I always enjoy you over there! TMD, Noel
Noel <nmm@episcopalhighschool.orgfoo>
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/10/97 at 22:12:17
Hello everyone. May I compliment you on your wonderful site, a fitting tribute to Mr. Rickman and introduce myself. Yes-I am the Cassandra from Pemberley and the writer of Never Love by Halves. S&S is my sentimental favorite. And I absolutley adore Alan Rickman. He brought Brandon to life. My favorite scene is the look on his face when he first sees Marianne at the pianoforte, his face filled with longing. To all who are reading Never Love, I thank you for your comments, good, bad, indifferent. When I write, I try to hear AR in my head. And please come to Pemberley! There are many S&S fans there.
Cassandra
Canada - 07/10/97 at 20:59:46
Thank you ladies for your ideas about TM&S. I am not very good at expressing myself, and found the book to be very disturbing until I got to Strickland's arrival in Tahiti to the end. I was blown away. I cannot define my understanding of it or why it hit me so hard, but I'm very glad I read the book. I found myself constantly picturing AR the way he looked as Ed in January Man, but cannot even imagine what part of himself he will bring out to play this role. I really look forward to seeing it, although I guess it will be a long wait!
Maxine <mrose@pawneenet.comfoo>
Greeley, CO USA - 07/10/97 at 20:06:23
And Debbye, sugar britches, sex on legs, you naughty girl, you! Pass the cold water, please
Emma
USA - 07/10/97 at 19:09:37
Debbye, I always look forward to reading your posts.
My short post re: reading was as more of an inquiry, which I obviously should have phrased better.
I thank Susan and Sofia for their fascinating posts. It is because of these discussions that I keep coming back to this page, since we discuss a variety of topics in such an interesting and open way.
Still on TM&S, Sofia's right on target when describing S as fleeing compassion, the way he treats not only his wives, and children, but also his (only) friend, portrays a person whose only expression of the beauty of his spirit is limited exclusively to his canvas and paint. In this way it reflects an image of 20th century man (and woman) that is in many ways accurate.
Aside, similar in what way to the FOF?

Emma
USA - 07/10/97 at 19:04:13
Debbye, SUGAR BRITCHES????? I LOVE it. We are going to have to get together. I hope that it will be sooner than the TWG premier. It's not really *my* e-mail address, but for the next couple of weeks I can be reached at glkpclaw@aol.com. Please e-mail me and let me know how to get my phone numbers to you.

Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/10/97 at 18:57:04
Something told me to add a disclaimer, but MY POST WAS TONGUE-IN-CHEEK, Ladies. JUST KIDDING...Didn't mean to provoke thoughts of censorship or anything like that. Sorry.
Debbye
Washington, DC USA - 07/10/97 at 18:22:49
Hi All!!! Welcome new friends, we hope that you visit often.

Noel and I were talking last weekend (HI Noel! :-)) and thought that since there are many of us from the US that it might be nice to send a coffee-table photo book of the US to Breda (at the Almeida) as a thank-you gift for all her hard work on our behalf. I would be willing to purchase it and I'm sure that I could sweet-talk my father into inscribing it (he does beautiful calligraphy). I think that trying to send it around for signatures like a yearbook would become a nightmare, but I'm game if that's what people would prefer. Maybe one of our UK family would consent to accepting the package so that Breda doesn't have to pay the duty charges. Any thoughts? Is this a terrible/inappropriate idea? Please be honest. I'm sure that Noel and I can survive negative comments and I'd *love* to hear favorable ones. TMD

Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/10/97 at 17:51:42


I wasn't meaning to support censorship -- it's just that Rand is such a waste of time.
Sofia again
USA - 07/10/97 at 17:29:59
I apologize, for this is a tad bit off-subject, but since you were speaking of R&J I just had to ask. I'm going to Stratford Ontario next week to see Jonathan Crombie (Anne of Green Gables as Gilbert) in R&J and was curious if anyone here has been to Stratford and knows of things that one "must do or must see there. Please e-mail me privately. I'd be so thankful! BTW: I've been listening to Return of the Native and laughing hysterically. He must have had a blast reading that one!
Rebecca <rheltunen@up.netfoo>
MI USA - 07/10/97 at 17:28:03
The Fountainhead is a really awful book which I mentioned only because it is (I think) in a way the crude propaganda version of TM&S, and part of its crudity is that all sorts of dots are explicitly connected. If I had to guess, AR would indeed be appalled to think that he had inspired someone to read it. To prevent my earlier post from having this effect, I herewith connect the dots myself:
One of the ideas behind TM&S seems to me to be that most people allow not only their lives, but the entire shape of their characters, to be defined by what other people expect of them. They are like liquids: they flow into the spaces those expectations leave open to them, without themselves giving their character any definition of its own. Strickland is the exception to this, in the novel: he is not just a solid, but adamantine. This is presented as his only exceptional feature, and the one that accounts for jis genius. It is also what makes him attractive to some people and incomprehensible to the rest -- for how should someone who has never so much as had the idea of living on his own terms understand why Strickland does what he does?
Now: it seems to me that there is a distinction between (a) setting your own course, and not letting other people draw you away from it (as though by some analog of gravity: a force they exercise just by being there), and (b) not caring about other people. One can, that is, set one's own course, and decide (for oneself) that that course involves, among other things, compassion. If one overlooks this fact, one will be inclined to see compassion and concern for other people as an expression of conformity and weakness, which it is not (necessarily). And this mistake leads straight to the libertarian version of conservatism. (Note: I am not trying to take a stand on conservatism itself: one can get to any ideology via a mistake; this just happens to be a conservative one.)
Now: Maugham seems to me to make this mistake. (As, more blatantly, does Rand.) At any rate, Strickland's utter lack of concern for other people, which could hardly receive greater emphasis in the text, is always portrayed as if it were simply a corollary of what I described above as his being a solid. Personally, I think it's the opposite: Strickland isn't just unconcerned with other people; he flies from compassion as if it were the plague, and he would not do this if it did not represent a real and standing danger to him. But Strickland, as written by Maugham, seems to me to embody an ideological assumption which is contrary to everything I know about AR's actual views. Which is why I said it would be fascinating to see what he does with it: on the one hand, one can't just peel off the ideology, I think -- Maugham is too good an artist for that; on the other, he's also too good an artist not to have left all sorts of interesting spaces for an actor to inhabit.
In what possible way could this page be said to resemble the other one? As a denizen of both, I'm baffled.

Sofia
USA - 07/10/97 at 17:25:54
I certainly wouldn't want to give grief to our hero, but I read a lot, and would never censor an adult on their reading choices. Hopefully neither would Rickman.
Emma
USA - 07/10/97 at 16:53:39
AAgh. AR would be grief-stricken to know that this guestbook inspired someone to go out and read "The Fountainhead." Is it just me or is this guestbook beginning to resemble the other one?
susan
USA - 07/10/97 at 16:43:57
Debbye, you're certainly a YOUNG grandmother (no matter what chronological age)! And I'm glad I'm not alone by the ice bucket.
Re: The Moon and Sixpence, I thought it was a very good book in that Strickland comes across vividly as such an uncompromising character, which is what defines his art. Since I love Gauguin, my imagination really took off with the art descriptions. I think Rickman will be wonderful and might bring more than the average actor to the part since he had a change in carreer as an adult, and he adds a lot of subtletly to a part. The only problem I find with making it into a movie would be Strickland's final painting, which is crucial to the story, and to me, is a "picture of the mind", i.e., one whose impact is made stronger by your imagination, the way Wuthering Heights is as a book. But then, I thought "The English Patient" was entirely a book of the mind, and was very satisfied with the movie. It'll interesting to see.
I'll have to read The Fountainhead, which I only saw the movie with the terrific Patricia Neal and Gary Cooper
In the more carnal plane, Strickland gets to wear a pareo, and Rickman looks great in kilts... Oops, back to the cold water!

Emma
USA - 07/10/97 at 16:23:43
Sorry -- I believe that should have been an interesting bunch of women (and men).
BC
Washington, DC USA - 07/10/97 at 16:19:13
What an interesting bunch on women (& men) we are. I can tune in at any time and get critiques, quotes and gossip. Not to mention seriously hot photos. I love the stuff on Moon & Sixpence and R&J. Someone mentioned a few days back (I've been on vacation and read all the past entries as my transition back to the real (?) world) something about a group deal in the WDC area. I am there if it gets off the ground. I would love to see TWG at the Uptown, for instance. Oh -- and someone also mentioned Patrick Stewart in Othello in WDC -- apparently non-subscription tickets go on sale August 8. Its written on my calendar. Bye.
BC
Washington, DC USA - 07/10/97 at 16:14:37
Hello, everyone. Listen to this: "He was quite a young man. And of the two properties, form and motion, the latter first attracted the eye in him. The grace of his movement was singular. It was the pantomimic expression of a lady-killing career." (Remind you of anyone??) Now imagine Sugar Britches reading that excerpt from ROTN. Mari: Exacerbation aside...I'm with Emma--splash, splash, drip, drop--aaaaah, that's better!! I join Mari, Kate, Mary Anne, Noel, and the other maniacs in welcoming Marni, Arlyn, Jannsue, Bug and other *new* posters! Jannsue: Got a kick out of your quotes! Bug: You have exquisite taste and show unsuspected depth for one so young...but as a grandmother, I feel it is my duty to suggest that you concentrate on his acting. (After all his old enough to be your grandfather!) He does some wonderful pieces that are based on some pretty good books. Let his work lead you to explore some of them. If you drop in here often there are reading suggestions posted daily. Now promise me, you're going to try and be a good girl. But if you have moments of weakness...and believe me, That Voice will do it...virtual cups of weak tea, cold compresses and tisane are administered here and next door hourly or as often as needed. (Not to mention plenty of sympathetic ears to listen to you gush.) BTW, can anyone translate Marianne's post? (Another one...our cup runneth over! Wonder if she's partial to The Colonel?) Sophie loved your post re: Maugham and The Moon and Sixpence. Have to say again, "Thank you, Karina, for a great site. I've looked around and it is the best!" All my love
Debbye
Washington, DC USA - 07/10/97 at 15:19:47
Julia: as long we're doing R&J, how about this--"[His] eyes in heaven/Would through the airy region stream so bright/That birds would sing and think it were not night." Frankly, I'll be glad to see/hear him in whatever. Especially *hear*... With Renie, it's the deplorable "h" word, with me it's the "v" word. Yikes . . .
Mary Anne
USA - 07/10/97 at 14:39:13
Don't worry, Julia: he'll do fine. He doesn't just dissect characters, he finds things in them that are not in any obvious way there in the screenplay (besides the obvious cases, think of Lukas Hart III, whose lines by themselves must read like a caricature, and would have invited being played as one. Think what he did with THAT.)
Actually, I think the interesting thing about casting him in 'Moon and Sixpence' is this: (a) it is, I think, a deeply conservative book. (The quickest way to see why is to compare it to Ayn Rand's _The Fountainhead_ -- in my opinion Maugham should have taken Rand to court for theft and debasement.) (b) Maugham is enough of an artist that the ideology is not as it were tacked on, but written into the characters; it cannot be just lifted off. (c) It's therefore wildly at odds with AR's own views. Thus it will be interesting to see how he plays it.
Note: I am not going all PC here: the point is not that he shouldn't play it, just that I will be (more than usually) fascinated to see what he does with it.

Sofia
USA - 07/10/97 at 14:33:07
Its back! my entry is back! It's possessed, but back. I'm happy now.
julia
Wrentham, USA - 07/10/97 at 13:59:32
Argh!!! what happened to my beautiful entry?!? I put one in, went somewhere else, and when I came back- Gone! Sob. Oh well. Short summary- Get an extraordinary director for The Moon and Sixpence or else Alan will turn a really great part into mince. Also, get a really good costume designer to make AR look bad in nice clothing. (impossible.) "Give me my Romeo, and when he shall die, cut him up into little stars. And he will make the face of heaven so fine that the whole world shall be in love with night, and pay no worship to the garish sun." so there, Strickland, so there!
julia
wrentham, MA USA - 07/10/97 at 13:57:38
I hate to spoil the collective good mood, but I just finished reading The Moon and Sixpence for the second time. I hated it the first time, and strongly disliked it the second time. I fear that our little darling has been sucked into the trap of typecasting yet again. First he was the bad guy, and now he's the real guy. I am seriously afraid for him. The movie will go down the drain like Mesmer did if he doesn't get a really good director. His lines are such that the tiniest bit of the surgical dissection he's prone to may kill the entire movie. It will shrivel up and die, just like Charles Strickland (paul Gauguin). The only thing that I found pleasant about Charles Strickland was the constant mention of his sensual lips. Oh Yes. Very, extraordinarily sensual. Mmm...Lips... AH! I only hope that Alan will be able to pull off the clumsiness and ill grace necessary to play the part. But our Alan can do anything. "Give me my Romeo, and when he shall die, cut him out in little stars. And he shall make the face of heaven so fine, that the whole world will be in love with night, and pay no worship to the garish sun." So there.
julia
wrentham, MA USA - 07/10/97 at 13:18:42
I agree that this site is the greatest (not only because of content)--Katrina has spoiled us! It can be frustrating to visit other sites at times! A big welcome to Bug and Marni and any other recent discoverers. It's good to see Jansue again--bon apetit!! Hope you had a big glass of milk whilst imitating Jamie! TMD, Noel
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/10/97 at 09:03:54
Ellen - I too lay out ads and design pages. I agree, this is the most user friendly site! Bug - a fellow Hoosier, Thank You.
Valerie
Richmond, IN USA - 07/10/97 at 07:39:23
Jennsue, I feel this stuff, the stuff you said.. ( from somewhere stage left someone says in a loud Brooklyneese) "Yeah, what she said!".. I was wondering.. How many web sites would the average person get to visit on a regular basis and use as a sort of starting point? One, you can only start from one spot! So....goodmorning! Okay..further..I've been doing some surfing the web and this is the most user friendly site that I have found in the entire internet so far. Karina, this is a major accomplishment. I work in graphics..I lay out ads..this thing, this page is the best one I've seen. It is better than the Whitehouse page.. Is that a compliment?.. Give this girl some apple pie! I hope you all have a meaningful, productive and creative day today. So Jensue, after AR were you able to actually feel the ground beneath your shoes? Have better balance, oh! you must all try touching everything! (don't do this near the sceen of any major crimes!) Play with the universe! Good Day ladies!
Ellen
USA - 07/10/97 at 07:01:35
Ich hätte sehr gerne ein Autogramm oder eine Autogrammadresse. Vielen Dank
Marianne Leyrer <marianne.leyrer@pte.fzk.defoo>
Rheinstetten, D Germany - 07/10/97 at 03:49:16
Rickman quotes are wonderful. If you feel embarrassed, you can always quote *quotes* from the movies, and pretend that the reason you have bits of Peter Pan, the Sonnets from the Portuguese, etc. ready to hand is just that you're awfully erudite...
Sofia
USA - 07/10/97 at 02:31:22
I'm so happy to see the epidemic of Rickmania flourish. I hope they never find a cure. Does anyone have a head count of how many good-taste-in-actors there are that visit this terrific site? I wonder if Himself feels humbled by all this attention? - Was sorting my CD collection - popped in a Yo-Yo Ma - on cut 10 the tears began to fall - The strains from Bach's Sonata No. 3, (the "Jamie/Nina Reunion Scene") began to waft through the room - a lump arose in my throat - and I realized it has been on the shelf prior to the discovery of AR. It never meant as much as it does now. Shall we change our reckoning of time from AD to AR?? (that oughta humble him...:))) That, for me, would make this year = 1 A.R. Think I'll bake An Awfully Big Chocolate Cake and Truly, but Sensibly, eat it in my Closet with my Eyes Closed.
Jannsue <Jannsue@aol.comfoo>
OK USA - 07/10/97 at 00:37:12
Hi! This is my first visit. Just finished watching Bob Roberts(again). I was very pleased to find this page and know that I'm not alone. "How nice to make your acquaintance." Does anyone else throw out AR quotes? I think it's a habit that comes from constantly rewatching his movies. I have managed to collect most of his movies (mainly by finding used copies at video stores). My favourite villain role is Hans (although the Sherriff comes in a close second) and I really enjoy .... forget it, they're all great!!! Talk to you again:-)
Marni
Ont Canada - 07/09/97 at 23:39:19
I, too, do not understand my fascination with AR, but it's real and I've had it since 1991.....I was cleaning up affairs for a friend who had died in San Francisco & must have gone to see "Truly, Madly Deeply" 10 times and sobbed therapeutically each time. I'm taking my niece to England 7/13 & first thing we will do is attend the Almeida which I heard about here..Thanks! It's nice to know that I'm not alone in my infatuation!!
Arlyn LaBair <labair@WORLDNET.att.netfoo>
Denver, CO USA - 07/09/97 at 22:50:49
Just want to say thanks for all the great WELCOMES! I will be writing more at a later date, have to be gone for a few days. Getting ready for PLANET HOLLYWOOD opening here in INDY. OH, that Mr. Rickman could be here!!!!!!!
Bug
Indpls, IN USA - 07/09/97 at 19:47:56
Julia, you *outrageously* flatter this humble personage. I knew that I liked you! *grin*
Kate (still impersonting Miss Manners)
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/09/97 at 17:49:11
mad emotional as colonel brandon...i love your very deep voice
Yvonne Yeh <Citriusssy@ol.comfoo>
Lawrenceville, NJ USA - 07/09/97 at 15:03:08
bug- 16, eh? excellent. we fans just keep getting younger and younger. He, of course, keeps getting older, but we won't go into that, for fear of someone realising his true age. (gasp, dull thud as countless bodies hit the floor) Welcome anyway, and as for miss manners, your class has got to be somewhere slightly above God. No, wait. That's mr. rickman. you'd probably be somewhere up there, too. Floating above the clouds, trying desperately to locate London, and Alan's bathroom window (protected by a silver spoon)... No, that's what I'm doing. Think of your own occupation!
julia
wrentham, MA USA - 07/09/97 at 14:57:10
I give up. My fingers will not obey what passes for my brain today. I feel as one with the Scarecrow. "If I only had a brain..." Oh, well. I guess that I have enough heart (in the right place) to make up the difference... :-}
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/09/97 at 14:51:25
OOPS!! That should have been "..a caste-less (though decidedly not a classless) society.
Kate (Impersonating Miss Manners)
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/09/97 at 14:47:32
Mari, why shouldn't you be part of the welcoming committee? Speak up. Say what's on your mind. We are a caste-less (though decidedly not a classless society). All non-troll voices are welcome to participate in any fashion appropriate to the venue. The hospitality implicit in a welcome is more than appropriate, it is gentile.
Kate (Impersonating Miss Manners)
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/09/97 at 14:46:02
Bug: though I wouldn't count myself amongst the official welcoming committee...c'mon in! You are obviously a sensitive soul with finely-honed sensibilities. Never too early, never too late, that's my motto.
Mari
USA - 07/09/97 at 13:35:44
Mandy--what a howl! He would have made a terrific Snideley Whiplash, too.
Mary Anne
USA - 07/09/97 at 13:06:37
I've just received a phone call from a co-worker who tells me his office has been fantasy casting for a real-life version of The Whacky Races - guess who was the most popular choice for Dick Dastardly?
Mandy
London, - 07/09/97 at 11:33:49
Dear Bug--I'm with Kate. Congratulations on your exceptional good taste at an early age. Have fun on both guestbooks, FOF (Flights of Fancy) and ROR (Roots of Reality). 8-)

FOFing and RORing,
Mary Anne, again
USA - 07/09/97 at 10:32:59


AABA on Cinemax2 this Thursday. Check your local listings.
Mary Anne
USA - 07/09/97 at 09:59:05
Bug: Welcome. First may I say "what a great name!" You have exceptional taste, though that doesn't rule out you're being weird. If you are, you might enjoy the Flights of Fancy Guestbook. We're raving mad, but we have a GREAT time. Welcome aboard. We hope to see you in both guestbooks often.

Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/09/97 at 09:07:54
This is my first time here. I just wanted to see if there where any other big Rickman fans out there, like me. I'm glad to see I am not too alone. I do have one question, I am 16 and I think that Alan Rickman is EXTREMLEY SEXY? So am I wierd or do I just have good taste? One more thing I also think he is a GREAT actor(not just a sexy body).
Bug
USA - 07/09/97 at 03:21:09
Emma--I read a study that concluded that cold water only exacerbates matters. I trust you aren't toooooo miserable.
Mari
USA - 07/08/97 at 18:15:27
Julia, thank you for the quote. When it mentioned Brief Encounter, I sighed. I've seen Brief Encounter a zillion times, and all of a sudden I pictured Rickman on a train (I also love trains!) with a background of Rachmaninoff music, flattering back lighting, classic taiolred suit...I'd even learn to act so I could play the Celia Johnson part. Prolonged sigh.
Excuse me, I have to go throw some cold water on my face.

Emma
USA - 07/08/97 at 16:14:40
wow, I didn't expect this much support! You've further inspired me and I will plod on. Merci beaucoup. Well, I don't want a useless entry, so here a qoute from the New Yorker, Dec 14, 1995, about AR in S&S-"There's a different sort of pleasure in watching AR as CB, a family friend who for most of the film, is painfully, unrequitedly in love with Marianne. B has a fine military bearing, and a tender heart :-) but he's far too old :-( and far too even tempered to attract the notice of the high spirited girl, and his timing tends to be unfortunate- he often enters a room whe M is expecting her beloved W, and is greeted by a crushing look of unconcealed dissappointment. AR, accepting the challenge of holding our interest in the unhappiness of a reserved middle aged man, draws us into B's politely ardent spirit: his soft, deep voice, and yearning eyes (melt!) keep telling us that there's more to him than M can see. (oh, yes!) Although many English actors have taken a crack at portaying repression, R may be the only one since Trevor Howard in Brief Encounter who has made it magnetic" Sorry about my little comments, I couldnt resist. And to think that Roger Ebert said that Alan's voice in S&S was Like that of "a sentimental hangman"! I say Mr Ebert can go to "Hartford, Harriford and Hampshire!"-My Fair Lady. bye!
julia
wrentham, MA USA - 07/08/97 at 14:39:05
Debbie--I enjoy James Joyce very much! I think he peaked with *Dubliners* and *Ulysses* ; I never could get into *Finnegan's Wake*. Yes, AR would indeed be equal to the challenge, though I'd love to hear him do some of the short fiction as well. "The Dead," for instance. Whenever I hit the line, "I think he died for me," my eyes start to fill, and that final sequence with the snow all over the world . . . arrgggh, I'm dyin'. But what a way to go.
Mary Anne
USA - 07/08/97 at 14:33:23
Julia, I agree with you. I think AR would be fabulous as Eeyore! Eeyore is at once so moody and brooding and so insightful and sweet. I always want to give the little guy a big hug -- he seems to need it! And AR's voice is so deep it seems made for the character. His amazing sense of timing and his wonderful ennunciation would make him a perfect choice for the character as well. (Gush, gush!) It's funny you should mention Eeyore because Maureen Paton in her AR Biography describes him as Eeyore at one point.
Michele, I don't know how far you've gotten into the book and I don't want to spoil it for you by telling everything she says. I thought there was some interesting background info in it, but I also thought some of her comments were right "out to lunch" and not very indicative of professionalism or journewest and most radical: this year's productions include an opera for the deaf and one performed by 111 cyclists. Constantly challenging, the festival returns in June and July with a radical prgramme of four diverse works, plus concerts and an education programme."
I can't make it this year, could any of you?

Emma
USA - 07/08/97 at 09:46:17
Lynne, I hope that we see you here often!!! Enjoy your holiday.
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/08/97 at 09:07:07
Andrea-- Thank You for the lovely words about my story at Pemberley. I enjoy writing it, too, though I have not had much time to devote to such enjoyment: the summer and all its accompanying activities, holidays and visitors distracts me from writing more than I would like. But, I am currently working on the next chapter and will try to post if before I go out of town next week for a much needed mountain vacation (to escape this Midwest heat). A discussion about TMD is also happening over at Pemberley; we have many AR fans, as you can probably guess. I have also been enjoying the virtual guestbook---a stroke of genius, Karina! After reading the last few entries, I am happy to be in such company and thought I was the only woman in America (the world, even) who melts at the sight and sound of Alan Rickman. I've said it before, but it cannot be too much said: thank you Karina for this wonderful website. I check in very often and am always delighted with my findings! This website and the one at Pemberley are my havens from a world that occasionally seems too brutal and too busy and too sad for words. And thanks again for the compliments, Andrea---it is very encouraging to me.
Lynne
St. Louis, MO USA - 07/07/97 at 21:07:48
Hi there! I'm new to the Alan Rickman web site. I was so thrilled to have found it and found that there are so many people who appreciate the brilliance that is Alan Rickman! I am currently reading the book by M. Paton. Wanted to hear some feedback by others who have read it.
Michele <fmerc58402@AOL.comfoo>
baltimore, md USA - 07/07/97 at 20:54:56
Julia, welcome to the AR writer's guild. Mortality doesn't interfere next door at FOF, where death (and all reason) takes a holiday. Peter O'Toole - yess! I've posted a few other suggestions next door (in between breaths.)
Renie
CA, USA - 07/07/97 at 20:12:12
I almost forgot to post a thread. Many of you have mentioned your admiration for Patrick Stewart. I found out last week that he is scheduled to perform at Othello at Washington, DC's Shakespeare Theatre in the 1997-1998 season. If rumour is to be believed, he will be the only non-black member of the cast, which should make an interesting adaptation. If I am not mistaken, he was a member of the Royal Shakespeare Theatre before travelling across the pond. I have called for season ticket information and will post the Othello info when I get it. For those who would like to contact the theatre directly, their administrative office number is 202-547-3230. The number for season ticket information is 202-547-1122. Their office hours are 10:00am to 5:00pm edt Monday through Friday. Maybe we should see whether we could get a block of tickets and go as a group. Any interest?
Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/07/97 at 18:12:14
NY-area AR fans: WNET will broadcast TMD on Saturday, July 19 at 9:00 p.m.

Lynne: Thoroughly enjoyed reading, and re-reading, your latest chapters of The Uninvited. You are an incredibly talented writer. My co-workers assume I am sighing over some work-related problem. Hah!

Cheers.
Andrea
LI, NY USA - 07/07/97 at 17:57:22


What Lola wants Lola gets, too!
Emma
USA - 07/07/97 at 17:15:01
Julia, can't wait for your movie to hit the big time for all the right reasons.

I had a totally bizarre thought while reading a post from next door - How about AR as the devil (I can't remember his name) in "Damn Yankees?" It's a bit off his beaten path, but wouldn't it tempt us to join Lola?

Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/07/97 at 15:04:39


I almost forgot! I was at the Clarke Institute at Williamstown on Sunday and spotted a lovely book in the Gift shop. It's called The Cambridge illustrated history of British Theatre, and it mentions AR as talented and successful. No pics, but theres one of Juliet Stevenson in as u like it. Interesting. Girls on top featured French & Saunders, Tracey Ullman (oh how I despise her) and our very own Ruby Wax.There's also a pic of Peter Cook. The similarity is striking. Thats all the info I managed to glean in the 2 mins I had to look at the book, but if I see it again, I'll keep you posted. Re the Peter O'Toole- AR pairing, YES! I've long had that one in mind, and I'm glad someone else agrees. I'm currently writing a screenplay. Its highly influenced by Italian and French comedies, with a little Monty Python thrown in. I think I could definitely use an Alan and a Peter O'Toole. Plus a Jeremy Brett. But he's dead. How mortality does interfere!
julia
wrentham, Ma USA - 07/07/97 at 14:58:58
Mary Anne and Noel, You are too kind. It's nice to know that I was missed. See you both next door!

Kate
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/07/97 at 14:48:32
Has any one ever thought of our darling love doing the voice of Eeyore in winnie the Pooh? I was reading "the House at Pooh corner" with my 6 year old cousin, and I came across this,"I have been told- the news has worked thru to my corner of the forest- the damp bit down on the right which nobody wants- that a certain person is looking for a house. I have found one for him." Isn't that just perfect? I can just hear Alan's characteristic little pauses! Another question- WHO IS JUDY HOFFLAND? (AR's GG speech) Another one- isn't Alan the sweetest man alive? "most of us know Alan rickman as the baddie in RHPoT and DH. He was wonderfully evil in both movies, but in person, Alan isn't menacing in the least. He co-stars with Liam [Neeson] as Eamon de Valera, Collins' leader in the rebellion against the British, and his eventual nemesis. "I love working with Liam.I've been a Friend of his for a while, and it was a great ambition to work with him. Whenever I'd heard about the film, which has been in the cards with one director or another for the last 10 years, I always heard there was only one actor who could play this, and that was Liam"- from "startalk with Kirstie McLellan" in the Calgary Herald, sometime in December, 1996.
Julia
Wrentham, MA USA - 07/07/97 at 14:37:13
Kate: Ditto for me as well! Noel
Noel
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/07/97 at 14:03:19
Welcome back, Kate! I've really missed you, for many and various reasons. And if you think it's "threadmania" here, step over next door and lend a hand! And HURRY! (grin)
Mary Anne
USA - 07/07/97 at 12:36:22
SO MANY THREADS!!! Sorry to shout, but you miss a week and there's so much to catch up on.

Noel, I really enjoyed meeting you this weekend. We'll have to make it a regular occurrence. Thanks for the printout. I was definitely going through "Guestbook withdrawal." As for the RH:POT book, if I find it first, I'll buy as many copies as they have so that we have an known source (me) for them. (I started to write "an easy source" but I was afraid that Mary Anne would have a field day with that unfortunate turn of phrase. *grin*)

Speaking of Mary Anne, the idea of Disney Studios (as opposed to Walt Disney) doing *Aida* makes my blood run cold. I have refused to see a Disney picture since they rewrote history for Pocohontas!! Why?? It's a story of a young girl (about 12) saving the life of an adult. You would think that DS would want to capitalize on that... The liberties that they took with The Hunchback (from what I've heard) are apalling. They also left out the tiny detail that The Little Mermaid chose pain as if walking on knife blades as the price for her legs. A minor detail, but integral to the story. Sorry for the size of the soapbox, but I think that dear old Walt must be spinning at Mach speeds... It's great being back; I really missed you all.
Kate
Alexandria, Va USA - 07/07/97 at 12:19:08


Susan: I was thinking about what a shame it was that AR didn't do the voice of Scar from "The Lion King". I think you are right he woould create a wonderful personality both vocally (is that a word?) and visually. Mary Anne you are absolutely right about the Disney choice of animation subjects! My friends and I were speculating how future book reports would read..."And then the Hunchback sang 'I've Got To Be Me'!" Pretty scary stuff. To the person who got the RHPoT picture book--I am jealous! I remember seeing it when it first came out. And I have had an eye out but began to believe I had dreamed the thing. Thank you for restoring my peace of mind. I guess I'll be digging around the local Borders! TMD all, Noel
Noel <nmm@episcopalhighschool.orgfoo>
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/07/97 at 10:40:58
Susan: re--next Disney film. The next one coming up is *Anastasia*, due out around Christmas, I believe. After that, the next is an animated version of *Aida*, still in the planning stages. The things they pick for animation! Are they aware--as opera fans (hi, Gail!) no doubt are--that Aida and Radames die in the story?! But then, I've never seen an accurate *Hunchback of Notre Dame*, either.

Whewww. Looks like I'm still a free agent over here . . . not like next door . . .
Mary Anne
USA - 07/07/97 at 10:24:09


I've just seen Barchester for the first time. AR looks as though he's about 18 and could use a few good meals! Very good production. Thanks so much to Laura Sparer for lending me her copy, and now I get to see her copy of Mesmer. A modest suggestion: maybe AR could play one of my ancestors: William Clark of the Lewis & Clark expedition; George Rogers Clark, an explorer and pioneer who settled much of Kentucky; or Lord Thomas Fairfax who was given a grant to the portion of Virginia that became Fairfax County. Of course, I could serve as technical consultant... After seeing Hercules over the weekend, I'm also convinced that AR should do a voice for a Disney animated movie. Does anyone know what that the next one is supposed to be? Since the drawings are based on the actors, it could be a lot of fun. Maybe we should start lobbying the Disney people.
Susan Fanning <susan.fanning@mcmail.vanderbilt.edufoo>
Nashville, TN USA - 07/07/97 at 10:12:32
Evenin' all, I just finished reading "RH:POT",by Simon Green, the book based on the screenplay, not the same one that Pam mentioned (it lacks pictures) but it did follow the script and included some small scenes that were probably those cut from the movie. For a book based on the movie, it was very readable. TMD,
Rebecca
MI USA - 07/06/97 at 22:32:05
And I thought I was the only weird one around! I fell for AR as the Sheriff! I have a photo of him by my bed (autographed no less!).

People tended to think he was my husband for a while - when I'd pursuaded my husband to grow a beard, he does resemble the sheriff quite a bit! The beard didn't last long, though, so I still have to fanticise on the other page...
Claudia Riley
Whitby, NZ - 07/06/97 at 22:19:21


Quigley Down Under - Tuesday, TBS, 8:05 edt
Karina
USA - 07/06/97 at 21:16:22
I've got his picture on my keychain (the one from the Emmy's) and I always get asked, "Who's that?" Which is followed by the ever popular, "Alan, who?" Although one time this girl I sometimes carpool with mistook him for Don Johnson!!! I laughed so hard I nearly drove off the road. She then proceeded to tell me that Hugh Grant was the good guy in AABA...whatever. The other thing I wanted to add was that at Barnes & Noble this weekend I stumbled on a gem. Its a massive store with used and reduced books in the back, and I was looking in the entertainment section and lo and behold the spine of a book says "Robin Hood: POT" and I jumped. Its the "OFFICIAL" movie book by Garth Pearce, and THIS one has photos, very nice ones I might add (although, as with the film, its heavily Costner)! But, a true Rickman find nonetheless that always turns a bad shopping trip into something grand! If you can find it, its great...but it said printed in Great Britain, and I only paid $6.
Pam
NJ USA - 07/06/97 at 19:52:19
Glad to see I'm not the only one who carries a picture of AR in her wallet! :D
Debbie
Canada - 07/06/97 at 14:25:18
Have to share this! I was at the grocery store today with a friend who has known me for 6 years..knows about my obsession, and I was receiving money at the Western Union, my drivers liscense still has my ex husbands last name on it but my mother sent me the money in the name Ellen Sherman.. so the clerk asks, "Can you prove that you are Ellen Sherman?' and my friend Susan said to her.."Yes she can, she has a picture of the Sherrif of Nottingham in her wallet!"..we cracked up!..Yes I can prove I'm Ellen Sherman..
ellen
USA - 07/05/97 at 23:20:52
I just picked up a copy of the video Sense and Sensibility and was reminded again what a wonderful actor AR is. I like this site too! Good job, everyone. Has there ever been a study done on the apparent overlap in obsessions some of us are afflicted with??ie: Alan Rickman-Ciaran Hinds-Colin Firth-plus a few more that don't occur to me at this moment. What can it mean?! cheers, all.
Pat Brodin Oen
USA - 07/05/97 at 19:51:08
An Awfully Big Adventure of course
susan
USA - 07/05/97 at 17:33:35
What film is that?!
Claudia
NZ - 07/05/97 at 17:12:35
Love all his movies. Especially the one where he plays Capt Hook with that crazy theater group!
Walt Hingerty <hingerty@erols.comfoo>
Colonial Heights, VA USA - 07/05/97 at 10:16:37
I finally got to rent a copy of Close My Eyes. Whew, what a difficult film! All the actors were terrific. AR did once again steal the film. I must say that I didn't especially like the character Sinclair. Pompous man. But his distraction in the market was heartbreaking. The brother was a great character too. Hated the woman Natalie intensely (not, I hasten to add, the actress). So, the only flick left on my list is Mesmer.
LindaB.
Toronto, Canada - 07/04/97 at 15:35:13
Re GW: I think we're getting confused. Liberty is to be a mini-series like Masterpiece Theatre made by PBS. So there will be full action. (I'm just happy it's not on HBO, which I don't get, for once) Also A&E showed a Biography of Washington that would be pictures and narration. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
Laurie
Toronto, Canada - 07/04/97 at 09:51:05
I don't know why Himself is going to Karlovy Vary, but whatever the reason is, it must be highly motivating. It's a pretty depressing little place, with everything worn and rundown and ill-maintained. This is sad, as once--a hundred years ago--it was where the intelligentsia and nobility of Europe vacationed, and it was very beautiful. In any case I hope he enjoys himself and accomplishes what he wants to in terms of publicity for TWG. Wonder if he's taking anyone.
Andrea
MD USA - 07/04/97 at 01:17:22
Joan and other RIII fans: It was fun hearing those book titles again. I especially loved the Daughter of Time and was so thrilled to find a copy used several years ago. I've read all of the mentioned books on RIII during my high school obsession with the man. The interest began with seeing a very charismatic portrayal on a college stage. I also have such a reading list going, love it!

Jean: I bet he's going to Prague to be seen. TWG coming out soon and other projects coming up. Perhaps he feels a need to have his face in the public eye again.

I agree that all the historical/personal tentacles are fascinating. Just reinforces my very high opinion of you all. Wishing one another a happy 4th of July seems more significant with the prospect of AR as GW looming...
Dana <strom@methow.comfoo>
twis[, WA USA - 07/03/97 at 23:28:33


Any new word on Liberty! yet? I went to the website and noticed that there was a picture of an actor, possibly dressed as Ben Franklin, on the page where it lists the episodes. Could that mean we will see faces as they give speeches? Just hoping...
Maxine <mrose@pawneenet.comfoo>
Greeley, CO USA - 07/03/97 at 23:14:08
I popped DH in last night and it was good to see again how AR was the consumate terrorist. (forget about BW, that certainly did nothing for me). Class and a designer suit. How I wish he wouldn't have been evil.
Sarah E. <ssr166@clc.cc.il.usfoo>
Spring Grove, IL USA - 07/03/97 at 22:41:23
I'm pleased to see so many history fans! Thanks for encouraging my abiding passions (AR and history both fit this category). Since Richard III seems to be a continuing thread, I have to recommend a historical novel I read many years ago called "We Speak No Treason" by Rosemary Hawley Jarman. Tells Richard's story through the eyes of several fictional acquaintances and really immerses you in the 15th century. I agree AR would make a tremendous Richard; it would be wonderful to see him portray the character as a sympathetic role.
Elizabeth
Fairfax, VA USA - 07/03/97 at 15:12:37
And here, I always thought the confusion over who was Rosencrantz and who was Guildenstern was that none of the royals ever paid these two enough attention, or cared enough, to discriminate between them--how better to reinforce the lack of importance commoners have in the royals' world view. (Which is to say commoners are fine when they can be of use, but they are, nevertheless, expendable.) Saw a so-so production of R&G in NYC a few years past...John Rubenstein and Stephen Lang (as G & R, respectively), and the magnificent John Wood as the Player. AR would have made a wonderful Player for the film version...because what Richard Dreyfuss was doing there is beyond my ken.
Mari
USA - 07/03/97 at 14:08:09
To Tom Morton I have only one thing to say, "Cut his heart out with a spoon!" What a twit!!!!
Joan
L.I., NY USA - 07/03/97 at 11:56:29
I am gong to Eng. next week for a short vacation. Most of the time will be spent in the Tonbridge Wells area. Any suggestions on places of interest? Any "must sees," bookstores, recommendations, etc. in either London or the Kent area? Pls. e-mail privately. I'd like to add some recommendations to the book thread: "Daughter of Time" by Josephine Tey, I'm sure that this group is already familiar w/ this book. Ms. Tey departs from her usual mystery genre to prove the guilt or innocence of Richard III. (I also loved "The Sunne in Splendor.") If you like factual historical reads, try Thomas Costain's series on the Plantagenets. And last a wonderful series, "Dance to the Music of Time" by Anthny Powell. If only Masterpiece Theatre would do this book! I read it almost 20 yrs ago. Would love to reread it, however, I'm getting so many suggestions for new books from this list that I don't know when I'll have the time!
Joan <jmvogelle@aol.comfoo>
L.I., NY USA - 07/03/97 at 11:09:01
For a vivid example of why an actor might be wary of journalists, take a look at the outrageously mean-spirited article on Ralph Fiennes by the dyspeptic writer Tom Morton in The Scotsman of March 17th (www.scotsman.com/searchindex.html). Along the way he gets in some pointed jabs at Anthony Minghella, AR, and by inference, at those women who swooned over Jamie in TMD. Thanks a lot for sharing, Tom, you dweeb!). It's also full of what amounts to ethnic slurs (substitute English for any other group you'd care to) that in *this* country would justifiably get him in big trouble.
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/03/97 at 10:25:23
Gail--Yes, I love Penman's books, especially *The Sunne in Splendour*, and the idea of our man doing King Richard makes me shiver in ways I'll never get over. I understand he did some *Richard III* items as part of an audition for RADA or some such. After that, there's no way he could have been turned down: "Thy beauty was the cause of that effect,/Thy beauty, which did haunt me in my sleep/To undertake the death of all the world . . ." Having played in that scene myself, I can tell you it's a chilling experience. And the thought of that scene with AR . . . in a minute, you'll hear a thump, which is me sliding to the floor in a dead faint! 8-)
Mary Anne
USA - 07/03/97 at 09:23:23
Well, it seems AR's going/gone to the Czech Republic: "PRAGUE - Gregory Peck leads an array of stars heading to Karlovy Vary for the film festival's 50th anniversary, July 5-13. Peck will both receive the Lifetime Achievement Award and present the award for best film. This year, as an anniversary tribute, that award will be accompanied by a prize of $20,000, and the documentary award will carry a prize of $10,000.
The lineup of stars includes Alan Alda, introducing Flirting With Disaster, Tony Curtis, Ralph Fiennes, Alan Rickman, Malcolm McDowell, Kate Winslet, Ian McKellen, Irene Jacob, Rosie Perez and Senta Berger. Directors Pedro Almodovar, Emir Kusturica, Todd Haynes, Michael Verhoeven, Vladimir Menshov, and Allen and Albert Hughes will attend, along with Mark Peploe, whose competition film Victory has its world premiere at the fest. A second world premiere in competition is Washed Out by Zrinko Ogrest, a young Croatian director. Julia Ormond provides jury glitter, serving alongside Ivan Passer; French helmer Regis Wargnier; writer Arnost Lustig; Beki Probst of the Geneva, Berlin and Locarno fests; Emile Fallaux of Rotterdam; Polish critic Boleslaw Michalek; and Czech helmer Jaromil Jires. The fest honors another anniversary, 100 years since the birth of French avant-garde director and theorist Antonin Artaud. This year, the festival expands its activities to screen more than 200 films in 10 cinemas. Opening film is Mr. Holland's Opus by Stephen Herek, and closing night screens Jon Avnet's Up Close and Personal.
On the business side, a two-day seminar on the problems of marketing European films is expected to draw both U.S. and European professionals. An East European Film Expo, organized by Barrandov, is aimed at luring more producers to the spa resort festival."
Interesting - why is he going?

Jean <geoff.cram@virgin.netfoo>
Leeds, UK - 07/03/97 at 06:06:45
Glad to hear that the AR American accent is irreproachable and I have not found a flaw in our hero! I meant to also add in my post earlier today that if AR is indeed in the PBS series and they have a major marketing campaign set up for spin-offs that should bring a speedy solution to their ongoing funding problems as Rickmaniacs rush to add to their Rickmaniana. And finally, on the history thread - Penman's books are excellent, particularly the one about Richard III. (Now there's a role! Imagine the seduction scene.)I also recommend highly the Diana Gabaldon Outlander series about an Englishwoman who steps back in time to the 18th century. Not at all hokey, and extremely well researched and written.
Gail <grayment@istar.cafoo>
Toronto, Canada - 07/03/97 at 00:23:01
To Gail----IMHO Alan did such a remarkable job with the American accent switch in Die Hard that I caught my breath the first time I saw it in the theater. I also noted a great 'non-accent' in Murder Obliquely. I watched that so many times I started listening for just a hint of an accent only to hear it when the character said, "idear" for "idea' which I thought was charming. I love to give my chum from Leeds (living here in OK) a hard time about those words ending in vowels sounds...:) Anyway, he does a better American accent than many--again IMHO.... Debbye---I'll bring some champers and strawberries to the sleep over...:)
amy
OK USA - 07/02/97 at 22:06:14
Three cheers for Andy! Big sigh of relief for Joan!!! Please everybody, do not try to censor any thoughts/tentacles etc. that you may have. IMHO (first time I've used that "netspeak"!) that is a large component of what makes this guest book so interesting/fun/humorous and edifying! OK Debbye, since there is such a large contingent of Metro D.C. folk here perhaps we should rent out a suite at some ritzy hotel and eat, drink and be merry with AR's colorful calvacade of characters. Happy 4th and happy weekend to all and sundry. P.S. I mentioned the Lyman Chronicles to my father (he loves historical fiction as do I) and asked if he had heard of Dorothy Dunnet. His reply-- who hasn't? Cheeky monkey! So you see I need all of your tentacles and recommendations etc. to keep me literate! Off the subject but anyone who enjoys historical fiction should enjoy the author Sharon Kay Penman. TMD to all, Noel
noel
USA - 07/02/97 at 21:52:42
Debbye, loved your earlier post about your family history, very interesting. Well, my day had a happy ending. Andy, what a guy, saved not only my VCR, but Barchester Chronicles!!! On the way home from work I stopped at Borders to get him a thank you gift (also picked up vol. I of Lymond Chronicles + Moon & Sixpence for me). In the paring lot I saw a bumper sticker that had "support your local sheriff" on it. I laughed out loud! Wouldn't Nottingham love that! Now I'll have to add a GW bio to my list. AR leads one into quite interesting paths. Happy Fourth to the Yanks and to those in the Commonwealth nations, have a great weekend :D
Joan
L.I., NY USA - 07/02/97 at 20:57:28
Elizabeth of Fairfax: As an archivist, I for one appreciate the historical postings that you and others have contributed to this guestbook. Don't apologize for posting something of substance! Historical tentacles are dear to me too.
R.Faey
USA - 07/02/97 at 17:34:39
Back on the GW thing: Early American history has always been a special interest of mine, so I've read a couple of Washington biographies. I've just never been able to warm up to the man. A very private fellow wearing a public mask. Would like to see so meone reach the inner GW, but doubt the info is there, even for a master like AR. I would hate to see AR play Jefferson, BTW, who IMHO is one of the most overrated of American heroes. Pardon all this historical discussion; it's a tentacle close to my hear t.
Elizabeth
Fairfax, VA USA - 07/02/97 at 14:16:15
Karen: if you meant Nicholas Cage when you said "He deserves a fan page," check out The Cage Page at www.best.com/~toni/index.htm and see what you think. Plenty of links.
Debbye, based on what you said about all the new "characters" who'd be appea ring in AR's resume, there's already talk of a "welcome wagon" party next door. [Grin] As to talk of "Knowing that crowd next door, there will be . . ." Hey, I resemble that remark! 8-)

Mary Anne
USA - 07/02/97 at 13:23:14
Joan: The impolitic cruelty! Can you get another?? $98 is steep for a movie I've never even seen. I have paid $100 and up for I, CLAUDIUS; LILLIE, POLDARK I&II, BRIDESHEAD REVISITED etc. but I saw them first and knew I would watch them over and ov er. (I must admit, I love AR but not everything he is in. After all, MERSMER might be another JANUARY MAN to me.) Amy: A slumber party?? My place is small..but we could watch lots of films, listen to all kinds of music, argue/debate, and EAT!! (Like Jamie and the guys!) Gail: AR as Shaw's "Disciple"...AB FAB!! His timing and sense of humor at the will-reading scene would be hilarious! Susan: I have that film..and it is delicious! What a pair! Maxine: Do we know if he is just narrating? I'll take it..I'll take anything, but I would like to see him, too. Well gang..this is my Friday. Won't be around 'til next week. Have a very happy and safe 4th of July weekend. All my love.
Debbye
Washington, DC USA - 07/02/97 at 13:18:36
Greetings all! I just had to share this with people who would understand...my VCR ate pt. 2 of 'Barchester Chronicles!!!' I am so upset! I care more about the tape than the machine at this point. Well, at least thanks to this list, I know where to find a replacement. Am very tempted to try and locate 'Mesmer' am dying to see it, but $98 is pretty steep. I TMD hope that the Geo. Washington project contains some on screen work, but I fear that it will be a Ken Burns style production. I think his work is terrific, but I want to see that face!!! Well, thanks for listening to my tape saga, sigh. :(
Joan
L.I., NY USA - 07/02/97 at 11:54:27
My two cents worth on the George Washington debate (Hello Melissa, Suzanne and Mary Anne) -GW would, I assume have sounded English so I don't see accent as presenting a problem in this case, although I don't think our man does American too well, does h e? Any opinion from those who should know Due South? However, the role I would LOVE to see AR in would be as Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne, whether in any new version of the history of the Revolution, or my favourite of all George Bernard Shaw's plays - The Devil's Disciple. (If the former, I would then like to work in my klutz of an ancestor who was in Burgoyne's army and kept getting wounded by the other side (your side!) until finally captured by Gen. Gates - wounded again - nursed to health by his wife who sailed down the Hudson in a small boat from the English to the American camp, and finally shipped back to England).Also glad to see that Colm Feore is starting to make his mark in the movie industry. This marvellous actor was a mainstay of the Stratf ord, Ontario, Shakespeare Festival for a number of years.
Gail <grayment@istar.cafoo>
Toronto, Canada - 07/02/97 at 11:53:38
Maxine, I have a sinking suspicion that you may be right. If so I will have to drag out the tape recorder as well as the vcr! Debbye, thanks for a little of your geneaology. I remember thinking GW was more interesting than I had given him credit for when I visited Mt. Vernon. I was moved by the tomb of the slaves who lived at Mt. Vernon. The whole area around it did seem like "hallowed ground". You are indeed correct that the guest list for future "parties" is becoming more eclectic and interesting--what with adding GW, Paul Gauguin and AR himself as director--any could (and with the group next door--would) happen! I bet Greta Scaachi would be a choice to play Martha to AR's George as she seems to be the new queen of the mini-series! TMD, Noel
Noel <nmm@episcopalhighschool.orgfoo>
Alexandria, VA USA - 07/02/97 at 10:51:10
He deserves a fan page...
Karen Jaszewski <aa173@hwcn.orgfoo>
Dundas, ON Canada - 07/02/97 at 09:41:02
Debbye--already talking about a Christmas party? Hmmm . . . maybe Hans will host it at Nakatomi Plaza (grin). Re: Washington (and Debbye, that family history spot was fascinating)--he is one of the most interesting men of his time, and that's saying something, considering the company he was in. However, we have been fed such bland garbage about him, cherry tree et al, that it takes some time to get to the real man, who was magnetic, extremely intelligent (perhaps not so brilliant as, say, Jefferson, but certainly no fool), temperamental, and commanding. I, for one, can hardly wait.
A mini-tentacle: I believe it said in the original ad that Colm Feore will play John Adams. For those of you who'd like to have a look at him, check out *Face/Off*, the new John Travolta-Nicholas Cage film ; Feore plays the plastic surgeon. And for those of you who also enjoy the work of Mr. Cage, it's a real thrill ride.

Mary Anne
USA - 07/02/97 at 09:33:07
For those of you onto the Aubrey-Maturin thread (I haven't read any but just read they had something to do with Admiral Nelson), check out "That Hamilton Woman" with Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier. It's not aptly titled but it is a fascinating movie, not the least because it is (I think) the only pairing on screen of Leigh and Olivier and they burn up the screen!!! Leigh (although Olivier was no dullard either) had a fascinating life, suffering at times from mental illness and at times from an overabundance of sexual energy (or both). At any rate, the movie is about Lord Nelson's affair with Lady Hamilton and it is scintillating. Check out also Susan Sontag's novel "The Volcano Lover," which tells the tale (Nelson/Hamilton) from a different angle but is also fascinating and well written.
susan
USA - 07/02/97 at 09:26:41
BTW...My family name is Washington. We have traced our 4 generations of living in this country to the mother of my great great grandfather who was a house slave on a plantation in the Mount Vernon vicinity. Owing to this and the fact that many slaves took the last name of the plantation owner, we are fairly certain that we are descendant of slaves who lived on property owned by George Washington. Consequently, we have always been very interested in GW and have done much research into the man, his papers and his times. (My grandparents attended the laying of the stone at the slave memorial at Mount Vernon in the 1920s.) He is a very interesting man (most people are when you get to know them). But generally I think the public isn't as much taken with the him as they are with, say, Lincoln or Jefferson. Who knows...AR may do for GW what Ken Burns did for baseball and The Civil War. (You know--humanize him and go beyond the historical facts...he'll certainly be the sexiest George Washington to ever cross the Delaware!) I'm sure PBS knows what they're doing and if AR is involved, we know he considers the project worthwhile and exceptional and will do him proud. (You realize, of course, when we have the Christmas Party next door, Georgie Porgie will be numbered with The Sheriff, Ed, Sinclair, Jacques, Dev, Jamie, Hans, P.L., Elliott, Obadiah, Raz, Mersmer, Lukas, Mr. I and our dear Colonel Brandon...and, yes, he'll be wearing black!)
Debbye
Washington, DC USA - 07/02/97 at 08:55:07
If & when Rickman plays GW, I hope he gets to be the cover for George magazine, and that he doesn't get a)a powdered wig b)a Lou Rukeyser hairdo.
Emma
USA - 07/02/97 at 08:38:47
Yeah, part of the joke (back to R and G are dead btw) was that they were'nt that similar but I've found it's better if they are (not for Hamlet but for R and G) because then the *audience* gets really confused. They walk in knowing who's who (in my case when I saw it I knew the actor that was Guildenstern (Simon Russel Beale is anyone cares :-) but the other guy (Adrian Scarborough) looked enough like him to get the audience thoroghly confuzzled and end up not knowing who was who. And of course R and G ended up not knowing who was who. Anyway, great play AR and RF it is! Anyone wanna fund it? :-)
Ellen
St Albans, England - 07/02/97 at 03:33:47
Washington was a visionary and a man of great personal power and integrity. He was also a slave-owner. He wasvery reluctant to assume the Presidency (some wanted him to be King, which he thought was ludicrous)- he was very much torn between reti rement & serving the country he helped to liberate. Now I ask you, who does 'conflicted' better than AR? Not to mention 'commanding'.
Wonder who's going to play LaFayette? Jefferson? Hamilton?
I'm just glad AR's back in front of the camera/microphon e!

Laura <lsparer@ucit.comfoo>
Nashville, TTN USA - 07/02/97 at 01:25:36
Great page....Rickman makes a wonderful Colonel Brandon!
Kayt Hensley
USA - 07/02/97 at 00:10:33
Just a minute... if it is narration, then -- as wonderful, yes TMD wonderful, as it may be to hear that perfect voice -- we probably won't be able to see that gorgeous face! Look at all the other PBS documentary type programs... they show pictures to illustrate the story and you sometimes can recognize the voices of the narrators... but you never see them! Aw! Shucks!
Maxine <mrose@pawneenet.comfoo>
Greeley, CO USA - 07/01/97 at 23:28:42
The Father of our country: for anyone interested in learning more about him, "Life Of George Washington" is coming on History Showcase on The History Channel, tomorrow morning at 6:00 and 9:00 a.m. ET.
I also found out some very interesting things I never knew about him, from my interactive encyclopedia. :-)

Suzanne K. <skurtz@cvtv.netfoo>
Hallettsville, TX USA - 07/01/97 at 21:56:46
Bo Bo the Butcher Boy? (snicker, giggle) But you're probably right. We'd go see it and say to our friends: "Wow. Didn't he look cute wearing the white apron and holding that cleaver?"
Teri
Gettysburg, Pa USA - 07/01/97 at 20:00:43
Sofia, I think you've hit the nail on the head! Couldn't have said it better myself-- George is indeed one of the most intriguing and impressive men of his time. And if it's true that AR will be playing the part, I will be very interested in seeing how GW will be portrayed. Personally, I doubt that anyone would be more adept at playing GW, but then, I'm somewhat biased (aren't we all???)...
Elise <boston@hevanet.comfoo>
OR USA - 07/01/97 at 19:58:09
I share an admiration for the work of Mr. Rickman and was very pleased to find your home page. It is well done. I hope he is aware of the fine work and honor to him that you have done.
Carol Vincent <Trekkercv@aol.comfoo>
Orlando, FL USA - 07/01/97 at 19:51:23
George Washington uninteresting? Think of all the military leaders all over the world who have taken control of their countries, or have hung onto such control longer than they should have, thinking that their wise leadership would more than make up for any damage they might cause to democratic institutions. Think how natural it is to think this way, especially to someone used to command, and when one's country is in fact confronted by serious and divisive issues which it matters to get right. Recall that the US was, in 1796, young and fragile and in the midst of all sorts of problems, and that had Washington wanted to say to himself 'Well, I probably am the closest thing to a genuine unifying figure in the vicinity...', he would probably have been right. Myself, I think it takes a VERY interesting person to see the importance of legitimate democratic transitions of power at a moment like that, and to stand aside.
Sofia
USA - 07/01/97 at 19:38:07
Melissa, thanks for the info on purchasing Mesmer. I'm holding it in my 'shopping cart' for now at video flicks. My question is; Is there any other way to get the video....say for under the $98 they want? I knew if anyone was up to the minute on the best deals---this group would be the one. Oh, and thanks for the scoop about Washington...wonder if Debbye would be up for a rather large slumber party at her place??????
amy
USA - 07/01/97 at 19:11:47
Mesmer is available in North American format from Videoflicks in Toronto (see the FAQ). NB however that their page has design problems and if you search for it on the Videoflicks site you'll download a synopsis of some movie that in no way corresponds to Mesmer!
Melissa
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/01/97 at 17:46:38
Episode One of Liberty! will feature Washington lobbying for a post in the British army. Does this mean that our eyes will once again behold AR in (*gasp*) THAT uniform? Elizabeth, you're not the only one who doesn't get it. The series must have been pitched to him as a very worthy project, if he has indeed participated in it (and how could this have slipped past this eagle-eyed group until now?).
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/01/97 at 17:13:51
Not Fair!!! I haven't seen Mesmer yet!! I don't even know where I can get hold of the tape. I agree...I love AR more than I love my luggage but I can't see him as GW. I keep thinking of that hideous statue of GW in Roman style--toga and all! I fear this may be the same thing...in celluloid! (We all may be pleasantly surprised. I hope so at any rate. Besides, we're so desperate to see AR in something new he could play Bo Bo the Butcher Boy and we'd line up!) But, above being the First President, crossing the Delaware and not lying about the cherry tree caper, GW isn't very intriguing, is he???
Debbye
Washington, DC USA - 07/01/97 at 17:13:23
Does this Liberty! thing really make sense? I mean, I'd be as happy as anyone else to see AR on screen, but his being cast as G. Washington seems more than a little bizarre to me. Gen. Cornwallis or Gen. Gage, maybe; even King George at a stretch. But I have a hard time imagining him in so thoroughly American a role as GW. I know, I know; the colonists were more British then. But GW with those eyes and that growl? Hmmm.
Elizabeth
Fairfax, VA USA - 07/01/97 at 16:22:40
MESMER's arboreal ardor: nice touch(ing)! Franz Anton's crazy about his patient Maria Theresa, but won't flout ethics. So enflamed--so conflicted! That kiss is the beginning and end of everything all at once.
R.Faey
USA - 07/01/97 at 15:14:19
To Ellen of the USA -- at the risk of sounding like a teeny-bopper-ish school girl, I have one thing to say to you in answer to your last question: YES, YES, YES...! I have played and re-played *that* scene in Mesmer so many times I would have thought the tape would be worn out by now! It made me melt away to nothing the first time I watched it and has had the same effect each time since. :-) (Oh, and "Dr. Ruth", if you're still hovering, Well, who asked you anyway?!!! :-) I'd better not get carried away and say any more on this subject here -- this sounds like a thread for the other Guestbook! (sly grin)
Debbie A. <maalbers@uniserve.comfoo>
Canada - 07/01/97 at 15:07:05
This George Washington caper is beginning to make more sense to me. According to the website for Liberty! The American Revolution (www.pbs.org/ktca/liberty/index.html), this six-part series of one-hour documentaries will feature first-person accounts delivered through on-camera readings. A ha! It's Revolutionary Witness revisited for Rickman--once again, an 18th-century talking head. Taking a Disneyesque shameless marketing approach, the trinkets PBS plans to flog will include a Viking Penguin paperback (no doubt elaborately illustrated), a soundtrack recording, and a video. Most remarkable of all, this is going to be on American television in the fall of 1997--in a matter of weeks. (I'm sure the Massachusetts Office for Tourism is thr illed at the prospect!).
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/01/97 at 11:00:40
Is it just me, or does half a million dollars seem like a...well, somewhat modest goal, given the really deep pockets available in the movie industry?
Melissa <masmith@law.harvard.edufoo>
Cambridge, MA USA - 07/01/97 at 10:32:17
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